RE: Current State of Debuffs (Full Version)

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FrostWolv -> RE: Current State of Debuffs (9/30/2014 10:08:39)

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by SSM


I did give reasons, as Mother1 quite accurately discerned.



Maybe I didnt find your reason enough


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by suboto

^ this theres also more counters to shields:
Azeral aux
posion= tlm/ch/bh
cheap shot= bh/ch
Fire scythe= tm/bm
bunker= merc
plasma cannon= bm
frenzy=tlm




I am not asking about how to counter... i am saying is the present state buff are more strong than what it used to be.


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by suboto



before debuffs are buffed assault bot would have to be buffed to cleanse 75% of debuff and deal 170dmg



Debuff are good as it is right now .. its the buff than needs to be scaled down.







Variation -> RE: Current State of Debuffs (9/30/2014 10:28:25)

^No buffs don't need to be scaled down. That'll make debuffs stacked with Necrosis/Armor Annihilator even stronger. You have to take everything into account, not just debuffs. It doesn't matter if not all players can have those robots, what matters is that there are players who have those robots. They don't need any buffs whatsoever, whether it's directly or indirectly.

Also defensive buffs aren't only used to counter debuffs. I wish players could take that into account also. Defensive buffs help vs suicide damage builds, such as dexterity Tech Mages and suicide strength builds. Nerfing defensive buffs will only put players who rely on them at a disadvantage. Debuffs are fine and defensive buffs are fine as they can both be countered, and both have their strategic uses.




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