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shadow.bane -> New Features (1/18/2015 2:00:48)

why don't you guys permanently remove loses even for the user ?

and add NPCS wins to 1 vs 1 wins but not to leader boards ?

it will be less frustrating and people will be back to game for sure like delta people :) .



Babsbunny -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 2:07:57)


Yea Devs. You guys can do like and make more server like doom legion etc like it was b4 and thing like old phase almost many alpha beta gamma delta maybe back :)



shadow.bane -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 2:11:33)

i only want that loses be removed forever cause of some players in the game that use some kind of unknown hack to see hidden features in other player's character , like variation as many times told many players there exact loses and this is well a hack idk why devs still didn't do anything about it ...



Remorse -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 2:57:38)

Not supported.

I believe loses should be visible anyway, honestly couldn't care less if someone is able to see them.



shadow.bane -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 3:10:28)

same here mate but , some people are quitting this game due to this ... so it would be better if they remove it ! cause many of my old friends that quit have told me this ...



Remorse -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 3:19:21)

^ Odd reason to quit,

I would imagine a lot of people quit because of they fact they have hidden loses as well, since it was probably a high motivation factor to play (Myself included).





RageSoul -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 3:42:47)

^Faction Competition becoming obsolete prior Omega is also another factor as well ( aside from the so called "balance" ) .

But anyway , losses should still be kept . It's basically the feeling of "must become stronger" that motivates players to keep playing . when they compare their losses to their wins . If anything , variety is something more needed so everybody won't just quit plus less punishment for build creativity .



Remorse -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 4:43:18)

^ Completely agree,

Variety should be their number on priority right now.



shadow.bane -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 5:31:52)

the easiest way to keep this feature and not be frustrating is to add npcs wins to it <<< and not to add to faction's leaderboards !



Inkwolf -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 13:32:01)

Not supported.

If I can't see my losses, how can I see whether my win rate is getting better or worse?

Also don't support adding NPC wins. One-shotting the Level 1 city guard fifty times should definitely not go on anybody's record, however badly they need to stoke their ego.



Satafou -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 13:43:04)

Only a combination of an idiot and a player with a low win ratio, would even consider the absurd possibility of win ratio's to be permanently removed from even your own private view. Without win ratio's how can we tell who is actually good at this game and who isn't? How can we tell if you are personally improving or not. If your win ratio sucks so much to the point you can't even bare to look at it, then you're obviously doing something wrong. Players who have good win ratio's got a massive round house kick to the face when ratio's no longer showed and now you want them removed just so you don't have to look at how much you suck? Not every player with a high win ratio originally had one, you have to work for it and even players who have always had high win ratio's have the pressure of trying to improve or at least maintain it. A "massively focused PVP MMORPG" game to have no win ratio's for even personal view is just completely ludicrous.



Daph Duck -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 13:43:53)

How about no? This game is already horrendous enough with players with 20k+ 1v1 wins but terrible win rates claiming to be better than players with less wins than them simply because losses aren't displayed. Putting NPC wins into the mix and removing losses altogether would only make this problem worse, a lot worse possibly and you'd find more players would actually leave than come back. There are a lot of reasons why many people don't play this anymore but this is NOT one of them. We had public losses in Delta and that obviously wasn't the problem lol. One of the main reasons to play this game is to build up win rate and find ways to become better, we do not need to turn this into a babies' game by constantly increasing only 1 number by mashing NPC's, and using that to determine who's better.



Variation -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 13:55:30)

Not supported. Removing the single last bit of what we have left of losses would destroy the game for people like me who are constantly aiming to at least maintain our win percentages. Not everyone is ashamed of his record. Also it would really kill a competitive aspect of the game. I would rather win 20 wins an hour with 100% than 40 wins an hour with 80%, but if losses didn't show what would stop majority of the players from playing flat out recklessly and destroying just about any intentions to play skillfully?

Also NPCs stopped adding to your wins for a reason. The developers want players 1v1 wins to be achieved from pure PvP, not fighting with a server character that can be beaten with the same strategy.



shadow.bane -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 18:46:03)

Variation ! i agree with you in the first part dude , but about the second ? u didn't ready quiet well ? i said to add to 1 vs 1 but not to count in daily conflict ...



Variation -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 18:51:36)

^Nope, I read it perfectly fine. It doesn't matter if the wins won't go towards the leaderboard, with your suggestion NPC wins would count towards 1v1 wins -- which is what I argued against.



shadow.bane -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 19:37:04)

^ mhmmm kk :D



Variation -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 19:49:09)

^Also,
quote:

NPC fights no longer count towards your battle record. We want the Leaderboards and your battle record to clearly reflect your PvP accomplishments instead of forcing players to farm NPCs to pad their win rates.


So as you can see if the developers were to allow NPCs to count towards your record, it would go against one of the main reasons why they were removed in the first place. Regardless if they didn't count towards the leader boards.

That quote written from the EpicDuel developers backs up my argument about me saying "The developers want players 1v1 wins to be achieved from pure PvP, not fighting with a server character that can be beaten with the same strategy." I can tell you certainly the developers didn't remove NPCs from counting to 1v1 wins plainly for the sake of the leaderboards. If that was the case they would've said only that in such a controversial issue.



shadow.bane -> RE: New Features (1/18/2015 19:51:48)

^ again , mhmmm kk :D



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