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Juan Tipo -> A fix to juggernaut (1/26/2015 19:17:37)

Started coming back to Juggernaut, but I've noticed it needs some fixes mostly because it's nearly impossible to win. I'm gonna make a suggustions for juggernaut. Not only for Level 40, but like Level 20-40.

1.) Giving Passives Skills to the Juggernaut player

2.) Allowing the Juggernaut to start first doesn't matter whether he has more or less support

3.) Disableing these following skills from the Oppenents Skill Trees
A.)Bounty Hunter
-Field Medic
-Static Grenade

B.)Mercenary
-Field Medic
-Static Smash

C.)Tech Mage
-Field Medic
-Assimilation

D.)Cyber Hunter
-Field Medic
-EMP Grenade

E.)Tactical Mercenary
-Field Medic
-Static Smash

F.)Blood Mage
-Field Medic
-Energy Parasite

4.)The oppenents can't take away energy from the Juggernaut player in any way, but they can still gain energy by Generator, Battery Backup, etc.

5.)The oppenents can't heal with Field Medic, but they still can heal with other skills besides Field Medic

If you comment your thoughts on this, I would really appreciate it, Thanks.





Lord Machaar -> RE: A fix to juggernaut (1/26/2015 19:32:18)

Hmm interesting, but to make those players not able to use skills they invested skill points in will be a bit disturbing for them. Most of the skills you have stated usually are famous ones and plyers tend to max them out.



Mother1 -> RE: A fix to juggernaut (1/26/2015 19:56:27)

Interesting but this would do more harm than good. As Lord Machaar pointed out anyone who has invested in skills only for them to go bye bye during a juggernaut battle when they are FORCED to fight the juggernaut is like cutting off an arm and an leg. It is basically the pyro fly pyro swarm but on a worse extent.

Not to mention lower level juggernaut already rule this mode due to them getting weak opponents who have no clue how to deal with Juggernauts. This idea will make things even worse for those players and possibly make them want to quit.

I remember the amount of runners I got with my main when fighting Juggernauts in Delta and back then we had all our abilities at our disposal. This is that only worse.



SouL Prisoner -> RE: A fix to juggernaut (1/27/2015 1:37:48)

Only the high levels need fix. Low levels are already enjoying this mode. Arghh, you have no idea how that pisses me off! :/ I really want to play jugg and just waiting for them to fix it. It's been like 3-4 months since i got back and me and many other players have been complaining about it. But Dev's.... Just got no time for that.



Shadow7777777 -> RE: A fix to juggernaut (1/27/2015 10:45:45)

Just make the level difference be based on a percentage of the Juggernaut's level instead of a fixed value.



Juan Tipo -> RE: A fix to juggernaut (1/27/2015 22:52:00)

Thanks for like at least sharing facts and experiences.

I've come across my mind with these other suggustions:

-These Juggernaut fixes will be only for Levels 36-40

-Changing the Level range of oppenents to Levels 20-33

-Since disabling skills will disturb oppenents, How about when they retrain they can like have save 4 builds at the time, like 1vs1, 2vs2, Juggernaut, 2vs1, so that they can be already aware that their skills will be disabled at 2vs1. When retraining under 2vs1, there can be like a black square on the skills that are disabled during the battle and they have a number 1 in it, and the disabled skill doesn't count as a skill point.

It would be very helpful if you guys also like improved my suggustions, adjust them, or make new suggustions that will help and balance Level 36-40 Juggernaut.



shadow.bane -> RE: A fix to juggernaut (1/28/2015 9:04:56)

just make the battle between juggernaut and 2 foes like in 10 + level differences it will solve the problem ! like for level 40 u get opponents in between 26 - 30 level max ...







Enough SAID . hope devs will listen e.e



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