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The berserker killer -> Change Celtic Staff, Mace, Dagger core (3/1/2015 9:27:57)

the celtic Staff, Mace, and Dagger cores are 2% yet locked. As a seasonal weapon what I am suggesting is bumping it to 5%



dfo99 -> RE: Change Celtic Staff, Mace, Dagger core (3/1/2015 15:24:15)

suported, plus: if the katherax and ninja reflex core affect all moves related with the sword/primary weap, why luck strike don't do same? i suggest made this core affect all attacks which use primary weapons.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: Change Celtic Staff, Mace, Dagger core (3/1/2015 18:31:03)

@OP: Supported.

@dfo99: Definitely not for a 5% or 7% (celtic cleaver) core. That'd just promote the idea of playing boring strength builds and buff them by a ridiculous amount. Maybe for the 2% version of the core though.



dfo99 -> RE: Change Celtic Staff, Mace, Dagger core (3/1/2015 19:33:34)

a little anti-block effect on some skills related with primary weapons is a huge str buff? facepalm... when using luck strike core the player choose it instead the 4% crit core, so this core have a price, but the players should not have a option to sacrifice the 4% crit for a worth core in you opnion? that is why this game no longer reach more 1000 online players..



Exploding Penguin -> RE: Change Celtic Staff, Mace, Dagger core (3/2/2015 1:05:57)

Yeah because having -7% chance of your opponent blocking your berzerker is definitely a huge buff. Or them blocking your bludgeon.

+4% crit chance is a pretty decent amount given how crit chance scales terribly with support, however:

-Crits suck. They don't deal that much more damage. They used to deal a ton of damage before the nerfs in early Omega, but now crits aren't as game-changing as they once were, especially since landing a critical hit will actually give you less rage than landing a regular one
-Many people, including myself, much prefer having more reliable hits landed from lucky strike than winning games entirely off of cheese mechanics from getting lucky with a crit. Before the crit nerfs in early Omega I absolutely hated the core because it made super-tank builds unplayable since people would randomly get lucky in drawn-out battles and win because of 1 crit. that was granted probably because of a luck-based core that's entirely based off of cheesing people. Not just me, but a lot of people absolutely hate this
-The +4% crit chance only applies to strikes anyways, just like lucky strike. It doesn't add to crit damage on debuffs, bludgeon, double strike, zerker, maul, etc..



dfo99 -> RE: Change Celtic Staff, Mace, Dagger core (3/2/2015 16:25:15)

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Yeah because having -7% chance of your opponent blocking your berzerker is definitely a huge buff. Or them blocking your bludgeon.


not is, because don't add more dmg in the blud or bezerker. also many players thought that it actually reach this skills and block alot because they are unlucky or ed sucks. (the players says it alot in game)



Mother1 -> RE: Change Celtic Staff, Mace, Dagger core (3/2/2015 17:11:56)

@ Dfo99

While the core could use a better description so it doesn't confuse some people (EX: decreases your opponent's chance to block by (insert percent value here)% when striking (Note does not affect melee moves that use strike animations)) The staff can't just go around changing cores just because a group of people 'thinks' it should do said thing.

Especially when said change will make flavor builds even harder to counter and could overpower certain classes with said cores.

Bounty hunter would have an even bigger field day with this core seeing as they are the one class that can use this core better than any other class. I say this because Bounty hunters are the one class that can debuff your block chance with smoke. Add a celtic cleaver core or the 2% core to make any attack have that amount of chance not to fail and it would cause major balance problems that in turn would call the class to the nerfing table.



dfo99 -> RE: Change Celtic Staff, Mace, Dagger core (3/2/2015 18:49:50)

mother1

in the actual state of the game, imo there is no class over or underpowered, all classes is very hard to defeat if the oponent have same lv and play seriously. don't suport my suggest because will made oped classes more oped seems very unreasonable.



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