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Oswald Cobblepot -> WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/13/2015 19:13:39)

Looks like it's not enough defeat me in a normal battle, they need to do it in 4 seconds feat. they gotta be helped with the "underdog thing".
Nice [:D] [:(] [:(] [:(]



Lord Machaar -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/13/2015 19:15:21)

What rank/level are you?



Oswald Cobblepot -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/13/2015 19:23:35)

I'm at rank 30, Machaar, being crushed by ppls from lower/higher ranks/levels.
I can't handle all this Omega system, I'd not blame myself if I couldn't see my own losses. [:D][:D][:D][:D]



Uchiha Sarada -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/13/2015 19:30:53)

What? some Extra 6-8 stats make you lose? I think you are not playing right, And the ranks advantage is way stronger than underdog dattebayo.



Oswald Cobblepot -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/13/2015 19:32:32)

underdog is just featuring in the enemy side on my lose [:)][:)][8D]



The berserker killer -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/13/2015 23:25:53)

6-8 stats affect alot....



Exploding Penguin -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/14/2015 0:19:08)

No, they don't.

Suppose those 8 stat points are +2 across all stats. That's like 5 damage mitigation each turn just from raw defensive improvements, an extra something like 4 damage at most per use on attacks, and maybe 1-2% more chance of block/deflect, and less on crits. In a 12-turn battle, that's:

-60 damage mitigation
-some 30-40 more damage in total
-a bit of extra luck stuff going on

Really not game-changing if there's a level difference high enough to warrant underdog giving 8 stats. You are just playing it wrong and/or getting outplayed massively.



King Bling -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/14/2015 5:05:08)

+10 stats affect everything, luck, battle, defns resis, and everything. When you get a little higher in rank, then you will understand, how many deflects,blocks, crits, I face even though I have more lot more stat difference over other.



Cloaked_Shadow -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/14/2015 8:16:24)

You guys...When I get underdog(level 15) I usually win, when opponent gets it, I win. You guys just can't play if you're losing to underdog.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/14/2015 9:05:07)

@King Bling are you dealing with all of these luck factors because each stat that contributes to luck has a spam build based on it?

Underdog mode works best to balance fights between two ranked players because they both have the same number of skills and weapon level going into it and underdog mode is only making up the power difference given by ranks. If I were to fight a lv 32 and I am lv 37 then even after underdog mode I have five skill points on him which may or may not be useful, I have a higher max weapon damage, and I have more skill modifiers all of which Underdog Mode does nothing for



King Bling -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/14/2015 10:42:57)

Dont forget that underdog mode came in just because of the ranks and not low level stuff, cloaked your just some random low level person that doesnt matter much so idk bout your case.
when a rank 40 faces rank 80, its pretty sure, the rank 40 has a major advantage since none of your excuses work here OWA, dat higher weapon damage and stuff. Plus I get blocked defled crited even when fighting people like f5, where they have a lot less ( over 40 stats approx) still luck factors here and there in the air.



Mother1 -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/14/2015 10:47:16)

@ King bling

People have been complaining about match up being unfair even before ranks came about. It has been going on for years, and the staff was well aware of the problem. So when the same problem was coming with ranks and they made underdog mode, the made it so ranks affect all levels so they could kill two birds with one stone.



The berserker killer -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/14/2015 10:56:49)

If they dont affect anything then why are they in game? Why does my opponent start first when we're the same level with the same amount of support? Or he deflects me quote often when I'm in focus? Do I have to get started on the 400 def and res Rank 10s? Underdog mode is too effective, change it to affect Def Res Prim/Sidearm/Bot instead of stats directly.

Heck if I doesn't affect anything then why not change legendary mode so that it affects our stats directly? Oh okay



Battle Elf -> RE: WHY UNDERDOG, WHY ? (6/14/2015 11:57:01)

Please make sure any threads in the ED GD contain constructive criticism and have room for discussion. Since this thread is only complaining about the new "Underdog" feature, I'm going to lock it up. Remember to read the ED GD Rules before posting, where you can learn more about the rules of constructive criticism.

Locked

Thanks,
Battle Elf
ED Archknight



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