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King Bling -> Bummer! (3/9/2016 8:57:40)

Exlie wins!
While this may seem obvious to some people, I ask why?
We all know that exile wins always, there is no motive for us to get that 5000 Influence tier, us legions.
Because its useless like always. I want a permanent solution on this. And not just another forum post gone deleted.




SouL Prisoner -> RE: Bummer! (3/9/2016 9:58:41)

Seems obvious to some people?? More like everyone who is playing ED for an year at least. And the reason is obvious and simple. More players and moneybags on exile side.




goldslayer1 -> RE: Bummer! (3/9/2016 10:24:49)

Whatever solution (If) they come up with, I hope its not one that handicaps the exiles because most of them didn't sign up for that.




Cyber Dream -> RE: Bummer! (3/9/2016 10:35:27)

The best solution is to make a war where the two sides fight one common enemy. Give both sides, exile and legion, the same health bar/objectives and keep the current reward system. This way everyone wins.




SouL Prisoner -> RE: Bummer! (3/9/2016 10:36:53)

I think one way to make it fair is to increase the frequency of war rallies. Like if one side is ahead of another for more than 24hrs, than for next 24 hours the losing side has a total of 12 war rallies.

Or even more simple solution. The losing side gets a consolation/participation prize. So nobody whines. All happy.


@Above

Ya that's one thing too. And that was another reason why Frysteland yeti war was everyone's favorite. All winners, no losers.(personally)




SonicTbear -> RE: Bummer! (3/9/2016 11:22:12)

How about removing the part where the winning side gets the War Prize? It seems that the Exiles have won just enough to force people over to their side just so people can participate and get 5K Influence, and either log off until the war is over or help until they're able to claim their prizes. We can still have prizes for both sides. Just put them at higher tiers and give the winners some sort of random prize like extra credits or Arcade Tokens or something that's barely useful or useless. And something that's not a dumb cosmetic.




King Bling -> RE: Bummer! (3/9/2016 17:04:49)

Yes supported sonic, they should make cosmetics available to only one side which is unfair. the winner of the war should get credits like 5k or close enuf




ambien -> RE: Bummer! (3/11/2016 22:44:35)

remb when they said the devs , titan an night read the forum posts. well they do not , if they did they read (no one cares about the dumb war.) l do not know what they do not get.the war is like watching paint dry, or like watching grass grow. we legions just get are 5k so we get something from the dumb war, exile buys the war with bombs every time, so just do 3 weeks of double pts it would be better, wow please wake up titan an night an deves, just stop the wars. it is sad very sad know wonder ed has hit rock bottom. an nexus do not come back for this until they wake up an fix the whole game from top to bottom. other wise ed will dry up an blow away.


my thoughts on how ed is going down the drain fast.


always the syfy




Xendran -> RE: Bummer! (3/11/2016 23:32:58)

I'd say ED has already gone entirely through the drain and is now floating aimlessly in the ocean.




ROOPJEET SINGH -> RE: Bummer! (3/12/2016 2:04:59)

I usually follow the factions which a a little evil { dark } paced But i think alot of people dont agree to us Legions are not having dedicated followers some people want to follow Good guys { exiles } i fought with all my strength in dread war V1 but it was deleted And dont ask me about what i did in infernal war but still lost




SonicTbear -> RE: Bummer! (3/12/2016 7:28:07)

^There is no such thing as Good and Evil in ED. It's only "Winners and Losers" and most people side with the "Winners" (the Good guys/the Exiles) without even giving two craps about the cause. All it's about is "rewards, rewards, rewards," which in most games that's all some villains (a player character for example if their script is written that way) are all about, even if they have to commit to doing good. (saving the world, but expecting some payment to not perform evil) In this case, the "Losers" (the Legion) should have more players because they're Evil, the villains of the story. But due to the fact that the "Winners" always win the war and always get their prizes, everyone wants a prize that only one faction can get from winning a war. This is a rare case of when eight-year-olds, goths, emos, people with depression and people who are full of spite and malice and hate and people who bear grudges, bullies, certain popular people, (people who are loved because they're people like jocks or cheerleaders in real life, but they're jerks to everyone who is considered "lower" than them on the "totem pole," but that's more of a movie stereotype person, but people like this do exist in real life, it's rare to find them though) "cool" kids, rebels, (real-life rebels; not alignment or historical event affiliated) etc. join the forces of Good in a game where you can choose your alignment. In fact, this is the only AE game where Good always wins.




Xendran -> RE: Bummer! (3/12/2016 8:05:30)

Based on the original writing by BigTuna, Delta V is a place where even if the Good side managed to succeed completely and absolutely, It's extremely likely that this would not lead to a "Good" situation.
It would most likely devolve into an internal power struggle when you consider the types of people that reside on Delta V, and the large availability of mercenaries.




SonicTbear -> RE: Bummer! (3/12/2016 8:25:31)

Well, yeah. Good and Evil actually do exist when you mention that. Story wise it does. Gameplay wise, with the way the war system works, only the winning side will get a (cosmetic) prize. Since the Exiles, gameplay wise, won the most wars and are continuing to win wars, most of the new players and people who make alts are gonna flock to Exile just to feel like a "winner." I'm one of the only players in the game who takes their alignment seriously. There are quite a few who do this too, but the majority is affected by greed and popularity and the desire to win and never lose. I don't mind losing, just as long as stupid luck factors don't kick in or I lose constantly in a row or someone acts like they're the "God of the world" and call you "noob" or "weak" because they're winning, but that would apply to regular PvP battles, not wars. So yeah. Story wise, there is Good and there is Evil. But when gameplay kicks in
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most people side with the "Winners" (the Good guys/the Exiles) without even giving two craps about the cause. All it's about is "rewards, rewards, rewards,"




goldslayer1 -> RE: Bummer! (3/12/2016 22:26:27)

@Sonic
Dont blame the players for that, blame the system ED put in place.
War rewards should've always been based around how much individual players produced for their side, rather than who won.

The Frysteland war felt kind of similar with their ranks for individual players, but it had the varium spamming flaw.

They should bring back the individual war ranks, and have the rewards based around X amount of rank reached.
You can even spread the rewards across multiple ranks. This way players get rewards based on personal production, rather than overall result.


And before someone comes in to complain that its unfair because they dont have time to play or this and that, too bad.
Cant play less than 10 minutes a day but expect the same rewards as the LB players.




dfo99 -> RE: Bummer! (3/13/2016 15:53:29)

the legion won the naval yard war




SonicTbear -> RE: Bummer! (3/13/2016 21:51:34)

^That right there should've forced people to join Legion. But apparently it's majority over... former? I can't find the right word for it, but you get the point.




Lord Machaar -> RE: Bummer! (3/14/2016 7:09:10)

dfo99:
Things have changed. The first cycle of wars ended with 8 - 2 to exiles (legion won West Naval Yard war and Biological Preserve one).

The problem is, the 1st war cycle has stopped before the last war which is Fortune City War. It stopped for almost a year due to devs working on Biobeasts and even worst, the reason of this delay was to fix the war, a fix that has never happened.
For 1 year, the war was delayed but not fixed as promised by the devs, giving tons of time to players to change to exile, with a score of 7 - 2 to exiles, any player that likes war prizes will join that alignment, whether with an alts, new account, or on a main.

The war system has surpassed the breaking point, and that was pretty clear in Central Station war, especially with the war rally nerf at the beginning, which made it even worse, with almost 5 million difference at the end of the war.

A total revamp is the only solution, but to be honest with you, this won't happen, since ED's developpement in a forced coma, I doubt there are future plans to fix the game. Suggesting solutions will be just a waste of time, especially for players.




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