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.Lord Ginger. -> Massacre (8/31/2018 18:52:40)

I've heard people saying mass isn't OP and that the damage is underpar.

My friend has 542 primary minimum and 37 tech and max mass is 139% more damage, meaning that 100% is double


542*2.39 = 1295.38

It improves with tech and people have 37 of it and it does more than all the other ultimates. Yea you sacrifice stuff. But when your malf takes away shield and you can trap with poison and hawk and normally start first.


Not broken at all.



NDB -> RE: Massacre (8/31/2018 20:14:54)

The 139% refers to weapon damage, which should be 350. That means the skill adds 1.39 * 350 = 486 damage. With the 542, the total damage is 1028.



.Lord Ginger. -> RE: Massacre (8/31/2018 21:00:40)

I have tested a character with 19+35 strength and the same character with 69+35 strength

Although the damage wasn't 300 more of a difference, the difference is still roughly 80 which means this isn't a 100% calculation, I did test this multiple times.

If what you are saying is in fact true, then it makes since to why support massacre is as broken as it is. An attack that scales with tech is basically as good as a skill with 90+35 tech when it has 37 tech.

This is fabulous stuff.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: Massacre (8/31/2018 22:18:17)

Unless they changed it, NDB is correct. The game has always calculated %-weapon damage based effects off of just the base damage of the weapon, so double strike, berserker, etc... all interact similarly.

The way % works pretty much makes most of the % skills scale with level (since weapon damage increases with level) and not any other stat.



.Lord Ginger. -> RE: Massacre (8/31/2018 22:29:33)

1028 Damage with 37 tech when a move scales with tech seems pretty busted to me.

Seems better off to have low tech since the scaling doesn't help it much (obvious reason why support/massacre works and is overpowered)




nowras -> RE: Massacre (9/3/2018 11:33:34)

Massacre doesn't have defense ignore. I think it's fine as it is now. Only few people still use it because it turned out to be bad.



.Lord Ginger. -> RE: Massacre (9/3/2018 20:05:42)

It’s not bad at all and you know it.
The damage is too great for lack f stuff you have to put into it.
I don’t care about defense ignore. It hits more than a max surgical and a max supercharge with 37 tech


“Massacre isn’t that good”

*looks at the fact that kartherax is out*

Ah I see, yes you are right.



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