I think it's time to nerf Azrael's Punisher (Full Version)

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.Lord Ginger. -> I think it's time to nerf Azrael's Punisher (6/28/2019 19:54:31)

If there's an issue with buffing things referring to guns, deadly aim, and guns being as good as primary, because of this sidearm, then something needs to change. It's a varium sidearm and not everyone technically has it, a lot sure, but not everyone.

It's also basically a gun you will need to have, which is also pretty dumb.
It's like Azrael's Anguish, but even better because you basically use it every battle, and the cost is only HP. The damage even scales with the total gun damage, not just the 350 part of the gun, making it even more explosive with the percent that it has on it.

Sidearms are pretty bad for focus, like worse than primary by a decent amount... I don't think that should be the case... they're basically useless.

You can't go and shaft a robot like the Phantasm Droid and then not nerf the Azrael's Punisher when it's way more OP. Sure, people can complain about the nerf, but it's not even close to being healthy having it. People would even understand because we all know how OP it is.




Foulman -> RE: I think it's time to nerf Azrael's Punisher (6/28/2019 22:09:15)

Azrael's Punisher was probably why BM used to be so powerful and one of the reasons for EP's massive nerf. It's a broken core that can't be countered like the Frozen Fury Blaster and ends up costing absolutely nothing to use for BM and BH. With Deadly Aim on a f5/tech build, it's much stronger than a robot attack and just as strong without Deadly Aim.

And now that guns improve with Strength, Azrael's Punisher is just completely overpowered. One example would be the Merc Berserker/Azrael's Punisher build. You can nuke down their energy, nullifying Berserker, but there's no way of nullifying Azrael's Punisher which hits you for 500 damage while healing for 200 hp. Being forced to use Kartherax/Azrael's Annihilator just to have a chance is just not healthy.




Armagedon2018 -> RE: I think it's time to nerf Azrael's Punisher (6/28/2019 22:57:10)

We can buff frozen fury gun if that is the problem for non varium players . I doubt that asrael punisher get nerfed since that many players has it. If we nerf it again, I see a rain of complaints.




Armagedon2018 -> RE: I think it's time to nerf Azrael's Punisher (6/28/2019 22:59:21)

Well , it was obvious that gun was going to be affected with improvement in strengh if you use build focus.




.Lord Ginger. -> RE: I think it's time to nerf Azrael's Punisher (6/28/2019 23:10:30)

Not everyone has Frozen Fury stuff either, I would like people to use different guns and not get screwed over by passives that were made just because of the gun.

Promos get nerfed, they do. Phantasm droid got nerfed to where It's hardly used, black abyss bot at first got nerfed really badly, and the whole promo was just the robot, and it wasn't even OP.

Azrael's Will has been nerfed so many times already...

This gun and the primary also need a check, for those who don't have them. If we want to balance out some varium weapons, this has to be looked at again. It can still be strong, but it is still insane.

And now it's not even good for focus builds because sidearm is really bad because of the gun str scaling. I'd like to see the gun be good at all levels, not just at the strength level. It's good at the strength level, still beatable but, it has been clear even since the first nerf, before this strength to sidearm change, that the gun still needed a nerf.




Armagedon2018 -> RE: I think it's time to nerf Azrael's Punisher (6/28/2019 23:50:16)

It will be discussed. Nerf asrael punisher, and buff dmg in gun




racing.lo.mas -> RE: I think it's time to nerf Azrael's Punisher (7/1/2019 20:03:12)

I guess its way too good for bm cause they have bloodlust and they end getting a high damage and loosing nothing of health. Also for bh.
Then if you want to nerf it for this classes all you have to do is make this core to cancel bloodlust passive while is used. All the other classes won't see this nerf while bm and bh will.




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