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MasterOogway -> Freeze, Fear and other status conditions (9/14/2019 8:42:03)

I have been attempting to freeze the enemy with the help of Nezujimbo (+ Nilak) but fail most of the time because my CHA is 0.

Nezujimbo's freeze attempt is described as this:

In addition Option #2 has the effect of a 25%* (# of hits that connected) chance of freezing* the monster. The monster gets a +0 bonus on its save:**
Level: 114 vs MonsterLvl
Major: YourCHA vs MonsterEND
Minor: YourLUK vs MonsterLUK

What does Major and Minor mean here. How are they calculated?

My CHA is 0 and Luck is 85.

What will be Nezujimbo's freeze chance against a monster with 0 END and 200 LUK?
I am using Nilak as well.




AliceShiki -> RE: Freeze, Fear and other status conditions (9/14/2019 11:53:40)

Stat saving rolls start at a base of 50% chance of landing the status, then it gets that chance modified by the bonuses mentioned, I'll go over them one by one.

Monster gets a +0 on its save: that's the base modifier that varies from item to item. A +0 means no changes, so the chance will still be 50%. If it was +20, then the chance would be 30% and if it was -20 it would mean 70% chance of landing the status.

Level: That's the level difference between your item and the monster, though the final result is divided by 2. Your item is level 114, so it will have -3% of landing the status against level 120 monsters and a +4.5% chance against level 105 monsters.

Major: That's the difference between [your relevant stat]/5 VS [the monster's relevant stat]/5. Capped at 20. Since your CHA is 0, you won't get any bonus here, but you can get disadvantages. Against a monster with 0 END this will not affect your chance of landing the freeze, but against a monster with 100+ END, you'll get -20% chance of landing it.

Minor: That's the difference between [your relevant stat]/10 VS [the monster's relevant stat]/10. Capped at 10. Your LUK is 85, so you'll get a +8.5% chance of landing your status against 0 LUK enemies, -1.5% chance against enemies with 100 LUK, and -10% chance against enemies with 185+ LUK.

So... For Nezujimbo, assuming you're facing a lv 120 mob with 0 END and 200 LUK, you'll get (I'll assume you hit both hits btw)...

25%*(2) * (50 + ((114-120)/2) + ((0-0)/5) + ((85-200)/10))% -> 50%* (50 -3 -10)% -> 50% * 37% -> 18.5% chance of landing the freeze.

As you can see, trying to land status with pets/guests without CHA isn't very easy... And your chance would be even lower (8.5%) if your opponent had END.
On the other hand, if you had 200 CHA your chance would be 28.5% against 0 END and 18.5% against 200 END.

I hope this clarifies! ^^)/




MasterOogway -> RE: Freeze, Fear and other status conditions (9/14/2019 13:43:11)

Soooo.... I think you didnt factor in Nilak so I actually have a 38.5% chance?

Thanks a lot for the info. I didnt find this info in any guide here. It should be added IMHO.

It seems I should increase my CHA or hunt for CHA boosting items because I love these status conditions.




AliceShiki -> RE: Freeze, Fear and other status conditions (9/15/2019 9:06:48)

I didn't account for Nylak because I have no clue what the item does tbh, I generally assume you'll either say what he does or link to him if he is relevant... >.>

As for a place that explains how it works, the Pedia has you covered already, it's one of the pinned threads in the Status Conditions section.




MasterOogway -> RE: Freeze, Fear and other status conditions (9/15/2019 10:11:33)

Oh, Nilak is an ice pat that grants +20 Freeze Potence

https://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=22316992




AliceShiki -> RE: Freeze, Fear and other status conditions (9/15/2019 18:12:42)

Oh, in that case you have 28.5% actually.

As in, he increases your chance of landing freeze by 20%, but Nezujimbo only attempts to freeze 1/2 the time, so... His bonus ends up being halved to 10% in the final number.




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