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Seth Hydra -> RE: Why Hasn't Chieftain's Ironthorn Been Nerfed/Reworked Yet? (10/20/2019 3:34:18)
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I’m probably going to get a LOT of hate for making this post and I’m sure people are going to accuse me of trying to kill everyone’s fun, but I feel like somebody has to point out the elephant in the room.
Good, you know where this is going to end.
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It’s common knowledge that the shield is based on old and outdated standards, and because of this, Chieftain's Ironthorn single-handedly boosts Weapon-based skills to a level far superior to those of spell-based skills to this very day. It’s a low-mid level shield that provides a multiplicative x1.5 damage boost, a benefit that most modern day lvl 150 shields could only DREAM of giving, to the point that many offensive-oriented players choose to ignore shields entirely in favor of CiT unless they're up against a boss specifically designed to counter nuking, like War-Torn Dragon. And the BTH penalty that the shield gives is easily circumvented by the many ways to boost DEX and BTH. There is a reason why this shield is widely acknowledged as one of the most overpowered items in the game, and there is a reason why Spell-based skills are treated with disdain by the community at large.
Good, you've got your answer.
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My guess is that they plain and simply don't think it's worth it to update it and deal with the backlash of people that love to cry over how CIT is the only thing that allows warriors to compete with mages and yada yada yada.
There is a disparity though even though I can argue that Mages get the most out of it either way.
As someone who sees some merit on both sides of the argument, I'll try to be as brief as possible. CIT, for all its "brokeness", doens't have much effect in terms of core gameplay. Primarily, the only time you're going to use it is while farming or warring, the latter of which will be borderline excrutiating w/o the damage pump. As for bosses, I could argue it's possible to nuke out most bosses w/o CIT especially given the BtH demerit even though that hasn't stopped me from doing it time and time again.
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So why hasn't this shield already been nerfed or reworked? Zealot’s Wrath got hit with a nerf, and that item was both (a) a package item and (b) had a less egregious impact on the game at its peak than Chieftain’s Ironthorn currently does. CiT is completely free, so it’s not like anybody paid for this shield or will have their wallets affected by a balance change.
You're most certainly mistaken if you think it didn't have the same impact, if not worse. My question to you, at the peak of Zealot and their clones, did you ever consider using another weapon? The damage boost was so significant that it pretty much rendered most other weapons obsolete. You'd use them with armor skills, with regular attacks, against bosses etc.
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