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Uskius -> Infinity +1 Sword (3/15/2020 8:13:56)

Wasn't sure of where to put this.

So, let's pretend there's a shiny new sword weapon out. It has really fancy art, but... it's auto-hit and deals Harm damage. According to the info-subs it "deals -30% damage for the auto-hit, and a further -10% for dealing Harm. It deals +8% damage for being 0-proc, and deals a further +15% in exchange for the player taking +(15/1.4)% damage. MC is a flat +5% damage. Melee/Magic toggle, standard damage and accuracy leans."

Now, my questions are: what would a technically balanced auto-hit Harm weapon do to the game, and would it even be good for said weapon to be released?



lolerster -> RE: Infinity +1 Sword (3/15/2020 9:17:01)

uh, I mean you literally answered your own question. It would do something like 86% damage of a regular 0% proc weapon that makes you take 10.7% additional damage. I can't imagine such a weapon being overpowered, so I don't think it will really do anything to the game balance.



CH4OT1C! -> RE: Infinity +1 Sword (3/15/2020 9:29:45)

To answer the questions
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what would a technically balanced auto-hit Harm weapon do to the game

Very little in terms of outright competitiveness. The tradeoffs between M/R/M and elemental defence means those monsters with high M/R/M typically have lower resistances. That means you'll likely do more damage with a more standard auto-hit anyway. I think the niche this weapon would fill is certainty and stability; the chances of a monster not taking damage from this weapon is really really low.

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and would it even be good for said weapon to be released?

From a practical perspective, I doubt it would be. @Kamui typically prefers one stand-out point/theme with any item released: the compression mechanic of compression weapons, the recovery mechanic of revenant, and so on. Having Autohit and Harm damage would be considered two stand-out points/themes, so I doubt it would be released. In terms of a gameplay perspective, would certain make weapon based skills that follow your weapon element interesting...



Zennistrad -> RE: Infinity +1 Sword (3/15/2020 13:42:29)

Harm damage is only useful in niche cases, since most of the time it deals less damage than an enemy's elemental weakness. I don't really see how this proposal would be that broken compared to weapons like Zealot's Wrath.



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