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Demistic -> RE: =DF= April 24th Design Notes: Book 3: Hansa & Sandsea Reimagined (5/4/2020 0:33:02)

@Kyros123: I'm not trying to be a jerk, and you do have a point. Most documents don't last centuries. I was just intrigued by your statement and wanted to offer my own perspective. [:)] Stories are more interesting when you can have friendly arguments.




Verlyrus -> RE: =DF= April 24th Design Notes: Book 3: Hansa & Sandsea Reimagined (5/4/2020 1:24:50)

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Firstly I agree, we do use information from theories centuries old because facts remain the same no matter the time period. With that said however, people are constantly continuing the research and updating the information. Take Darwin's theory of natural selection for example. After Darwin came Mendelian inheritance, the Boveri–Sutton chromosome theory, genetics, DNA, etc all to form our modern day understanding of evolution. And now we have practical applications like selective breading, gene editing etc. Yes, Darwin laid the groundwork, but the research into the topic went beyond just him.


Yes but remember that these are multi-national efforts, funded by patrons, academies, universities, and nowhere near as deadly as trying to untangle the nature of magic. Sure, sailing could be perilous, but that's just the start. As the conclusion of the book says:

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The study of the nature of magic on Lore is a deadly, dangerous, life-changing, and rewarding field. Those mages that find themselves lucky enough to master the flow of mana are few and far between, and unlikely to share their secrets.
Unfortunately, much research has been lost to time and disaster, and so further exploration of the leyline and other theories of magic must be left to those who are brave enough to risk their lives in search of greater understanding.


The book also makes it clear in the introduction that (at the time) this was the prevalent theory in Greenguard. From the story we've seen in DragonFable, it can be inferred that the different continents and countries of Lore don't seem to have regular communications. Sure there have been an amount of refugees from the Shapeless Empire, but certainly not any traditionally educated mages. The closest one being Gaelan, who, while knows a lot about how the Magesterium works, was not inducted into their extremely secretive upper echelon.

Perhaps Jaania would have been that Darwin, had she not been frozen. But, as far as I'm aware, there is no evidence of organized research into the nature of magic in the Kingdom of Greenguard. Any is mostly into the applications of the elements. And if any mages did make any independent concerted effort to pursue this research, would there be incentive to share it? There's no educational body to present the research to, no guild of mages, no acclamation to gain.

And remember, we've seen a civilization ruled by mages- the Shapeless Empire. And there is certainly a clear divide between them and the Kingdom of Greenguard.

The systems and cooperation and patronage that were available in Earth's past were not available in Greenguard. And thus research stagnated.




Demistic -> RE: =DF= April 24th Design Notes: Book 3: Hansa & Sandsea Reimagined (5/4/2020 5:58:26)

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The book also makes it clear in the introduction that (at the time) this was the prevalent theory in Greenguard. From the story we've seen in DragonFable, it can be inferred that the different continents and countries of Lore don't seem to have regular communications. Sure there have been an amount of refugees from the Shapeless Empire, but certainly not any traditionally educated mages. The closest one being Gaelan, who, while knows a lot about how the Magesterium works, was not inducted into their extremely secretive upper echelon.

Perhaps Jaania would have been that Darwin, had she not been frozen. But, as far as I'm aware, there is no evidence of organized research into the nature of magic in the Kingdom of Greenguard. Any is mostly into the applications of the elements. And if any mages did make any independent concerted effort to pursue this research, would there be incentive to share it? There's no educational body to present the research to, no guild of mages, no acclamation to gain.


That is VERY similar to the scientific draught during the European dark ages. It is possible that the anti-magic organization could've been a similar movement to the ludite backlash that the Catholic church formed, where science was "evil witchcraft."

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And remember, we've seen a civilization ruled by mages- the Shapeless Empire. And there is certainly a clear divide between them and the Kingdom of Greenguard.

The systems and cooperation and patronage that were available in Earth's past were not available in Greenguard. And thus research stagnated.


This again is similar to the middle ages, where the byzantine and arab civilizations still possessed the knowledge from greece and rome. You've aptly stated why it took us hundreds of years to go from the building huts, to castles, to cathedrals, to skyscrapers. Yet it only took us a little over 50 years to go from adding machines to smart phones.

Just remember, we don't know what other civilizations on Lore may know. Remember the Drakel have their magiscience. Who knows what else is lurking.




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