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Gingkage -> =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 17:19:09)

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Verlyrus:
Welcome to AdventureFriends!

Hey there, students!

Welcome to Aspenvale Academy! You've enrolled for senior year, and while it's been uneventful so far, that's all about to change! The annual end-of-year QuestVenture is coming up, when every student finds a partner to go on a quest with! It's the final big event before graduation, and you don't want to miss it. But if you can't find a partner, well, no QuestVenture for you! And you do NOT want to be left out!

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Welcome to... AdventureFriends! (Part 1). Part 2 will be coming next week, so make your decisions count!

But whatever you do, make sure you have a partner for the QuestVenture! Check out AdventureFriends! (Part 1) in the Book of Lore!

HUGE MASSIVE THANKS TO DARKON AND DRACELIX FOR THEIR HELP WITH ART FOR THIS RELEASE!

A couple of other updates:

Ice Scythe activation chance reverted to 5%.
Guests are no longer allowed in the Inn at the Edge of Time.
This is a potentially temporary solution, unless/until I can figure out a better way of dealing with guests.
The Boxhat helm has returned for one week!
There was something else kind of important but I seem to have forgotten what it was...

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Kurtz96 -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 17:23:48)

Have we ever seen Victoria's sisters Tara and Brittany (spelling?) in DF? I know Jaania is treating one of them for an illness but which one is being treated?




DemonicDarkwraith -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 17:25:42)

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Not gonna lie, I was not expecting that the DF team pulling a DDLC. I can't wait for Part 2 next week!


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Guests are no longer allowed in the Inn at the Edge of Time.

I am really glad that they are no longer allowed in the Inn because they have been ignoring mechanics left and right ever since the turn order change as well as classes like Chaosweaver supporting their usage.

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Ice Scythe activation chance reverted to 5%.

Not gonna lie, I really disagree with this change because many classes have low hitcount and that the duration is already decreased from last week.




OpprobriousPinecones -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 17:26:07)

We saw all of her sisters during one of Sir Ano's last, and I think Brittany's the one being treated at the moment.




Kurtz96 -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 17:31:05)

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There was something else kind of important but I seem to have forgotten what it was...

What is Verly teasing here?

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We saw all of her sisters during one of Sir Ano's last, and I think Brittany's the one being treated at the moment.

Brittany is the oldest if I remember correctly so since she is out of commission Victoria/Robina is the queen.




LigerBeard -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 17:42:14)

Wait a second.

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Considering what just happened, is it possible that Remthalas is toying with us?




Fire alandry -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 17:48:35)

This quest was so adorable. And creepy.
I can't wait part 2. And I hope there'll be part 100.




AstralCodex -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 18:04:35)

This quest was really, really good. Looking forward to part 2.

@Kurtz96 Verly nerfed guest Aegis by a lot, but forgot to include it in the design notes.




Kurtz96 -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 18:09:54)

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@Kurtz96 Verly nerfed guest Aegis by a lot, but forgot to include it in the design notes.

He forgot to put it on design notes, but remembered to write that he forgot on the design notes? that's weird.
Oh well, I never used guests anyways.




Dratomos -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 19:16:55)

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Brittany is the oldest if I remember correctly so since she is out of commission Victoria/Robina is the queen.


@Kurtz96 is right, it's stated by Robina in Queen of Roses that Brittany is the one who is out of comission.

As for the quest itself, it was great. And very interesting.
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And I have to agree with @LigerBeard, it feels like this is something that the last Malerious member could do... Last war was on Friday the 14th, is it this time friday the 12th?




Vaalirus -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 19:50:32)


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When I get my hands on whoever stole my precious broken horned waifu away from me[:@]....

Anyways this quest was pretty fun and I love the doki doki visual novel vibes I was getting, especially from Robina/Victoria/Cinquefoil

It is also interesting to see the anime tropes the current cast of characters fall under like Jaania being the typical student council president whereas Aria fits more in line with female anime characters that are warm and welcoming while Aegis is one of those pushover comedic relief characters that gets like one arc to shine and Victoria....is um Eldritch horror I'm going with Eldritch Horror.

Also Cysero what have you done with my boy Tomix


....Oh, and how is the academy struggling for funding we got 340 million gold lying around, don't tell me that the mayor is misappropriating funds!




anime_rpg -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 20:15:56)

Great event, loved it from the start and then even more nearer the end.

@Kurtz96 see Spoiler.

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Unfortunately I wasn't the first to point it out :P, I was thinking earlier this week wondering if they would combine HHD with Maleurous given it is Fri 12th and Verly has even said that they may take some liberty with the dates like they did previously. So @Kurtz96 I think what Verly "forgot" was something about calendars and dates.
I did notice the music from Tomix onwards, so we did get a clue.


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Oh, it isn't when Tomix goes (temporarily) missing, it is at the start of Robina that the music starts to change.
Ok, the Decorations ending (final frame) is a bit darker/creepier than Activities which I started on.
Please don't let next week's quest depend on the choices we made this week, it will be too much to have to play all the different routes again ...




Guerra -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/13/2021 20:20:51)

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#Alz'einBestWaifu


That is all.




Primate Murder -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/14/2021 5:23:31)

I've played all 3 routes, and the Activities subcomittee seems to be somewhat less involved than the other 2.

That said, I actually liked the release.
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My favorite moment was where I tried to insist to Jaania that something's wrong, and the button just switched to everything being fine.

The sheer insanity of Victoria's group was also very entertaining - from her craziness, to multiple personalities and reality breaking down. And don't think I missed that talk about 'prying eyes'!




Kyrion -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/14/2021 9:57:06)

This is pretty much an unexpected release this week for me, the way that we shifted to VN's for this week and next (btw i like the twists), is something that caught me off guard. Its fine overall imo, im liking how we get to interact with more characters and breaking the formula for once.


Personally im not exactly with the ice scythe nerf, but it barely felt like a nerf at all considering that im just really used to the 5% proc chance. Sure that we got 3 turns of -30 ice resist, its still fine for quick bursts.


Guests being banned on inns? ehh, its fine for me.




AstralCodex -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/14/2021 13:59:32)

In terms of the balance changes this week, I think that the guest ban in the Inn is a really great development. First, bringing (non-dragon) guests also doesn't make much sense flavorwise. But more importantly, as people have expressed before, there is a fundamental tension behind guests making the game easier, and Inn Challenges which are intended to be hard. A lot of time was previously spent planning whack-a-mole with whatever overpowered guest strategy popped up - I remember Mritha, Zhoom, Guest Stuns, etc all getting big nerfs because of strategies involving challenge fights. I personally would've just preferred guest bans from Duos/Trios/EX Challenges so you can still use guests for mazes, but I understand that a blanket guest ban is both cleaner to implement and also less unintuitive to players.

I don't really understand why Aegis was nerfed so hard (10 turn -25 ice -> 3 turn -20 ice, no longer stacks with ice scythe), in light of the guest ban from the Inn, but since guests are banned from the inn now, it doesn't really matter for anything beyond a few story fights.

As for the ice scythe nerf, I'm not really a fan, and have long thoughts about it that I'll make its own forum thread.

Also, based on testing it vs various Inn bosses, I think DBE might still be a bit too good in longer boss fights, if the intention is a "questing" class that's not good at bosses. After the initial extra turn cycle, a 6/7-turn Ultra Aim Hex gives the class an insane amount of survivability with MPM stack or even just coinflipping with (normal) defense boost (doubly so because of the direct hit removal). Ultra Health boost also gives a lot of HP regeneration for a class that's supposed to be one-and-done. CDE, the other "bursty" Epoch that's nevertheless intended for bossing, lost its Ultra Health boost, so I don't see a good argument for DBE keeping it.

That being said, I think the class is still worse than Basepoch for most boss fights. Maybe the real issue is that Basepoch is too good?




OpprobriousPinecones -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/14/2021 14:48:28)

Could you expand on how are guests in the Inn are nonsensical from a flavor perspective, at least in comparison to our dragon?




Shadow_Knight41 -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/14/2021 14:57:14)

It's nice to see Aspenvale Academy again after years.




Ace Woodlink -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/14/2021 15:56:56)

I am always willing to engage in a chuuni's delusions.




Kurtz96 -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/14/2021 16:45:53)

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Could you expand on how are guests in the Inn are nonsensical from a flavor perspective, at least in comparison to our dragon?

I guess cause the Inn is full of different versions of "the player character" from different timelines. Other people like guests shouldn't be able to access it. Our dragon is an exception cause we are connected? Bonded? or whatever to be together.




OpprobriousPinecones -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/14/2021 19:45:26)

Well, we're bonded with Aegis, too, aren't we?




brotherinlaw -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/15/2021 21:31:24)

'gotta say, I was expecting a parody on anime/dating sim games. I didn't even think about Doki Doki Literature Club untill halsfway into day 1.


I feel sorry for the guys who writes the quests into the forum's encyclopedia. All those things that flick across the screen, that's 'gonna be a pain to note.

Anyone notice anything particularly interesting in those little flashes? I thought I saw Xan at one point, the OG front-facing version, but I might just be exhausted and seeing things.




Flabagast -> RE: =DF= February 13th Design Notes: Welcome to AdventureFriends! (2/17/2021 6:24:21)

Ya'll actually did it. Amazing.
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I was already blown away before things started getting weird! And yes, the more I think about, the more sure I am that this is another of Remthalas' shenanigans. Definitely going to play through again and see what I can find!

WOwee this will be a Hero's Heart Day to remember!




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