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Zennistrad -> Should AQ have a player suggestion contest? (7/21/2021 22:19:02)
I've been fairly active in the suggestions subforum for a while now. I mostly post there because designing AQ equipment is a fun exercise in understanding the game's deeper mechanics and design principles, but one thing that's sort of struck me recently is that there hasn't been anything from there that's been implemented in a good while. Now, I completely understand why that is — the devs are certainly very busy with weekly releases and the upcoming class revamps are no doubt taking up a huge portion of their time. But that said, I feel like there could be a way of re-introducing player suggestions back into the game in a way that's less intrusive to the schedule, and not far off from the "golden ticket" model that's currently used for player-designed items. You've already read the thread title, so you probably know what it is: a player suggestions contest. This idea I believe was mentioned by The Hollow once during the announcement for the Devourer Saga quest revamps, and it's something that I would definitely like to see at some point: not just for the obvious reason that I'd love to see one of my own suggestions possibly make it in, but also because I'd love to see what other players can come up with on their own merits. I'm wondering what anyone else would think of this: I personally think it'd be an excellent way of getting players to engage with the community outside of the usual wars and donation contests.

PD -> RE: Should AQ have a player suggestion contest? (7/21/2021 22:51:45)
I'd love for this to happen, time and budget within scope. Particularly I'd like updates that are purely for QoL, bugfixes, updates to older equips, and player suggestions that can fit within the time budget. Acknowledged that weekly updates are AQ's (and AE's in general) bread and butter, but maybe having 1 out of the 4 releases we get monthly being towards this end would be nice to have. I've been particularly vocal about gaping deficiencies in those areas. While not a "contest" in the purest sense, a small, focused, and dedicated update once a month towards those things can encourage players to pitch in on how to make the game better, and would be an easy way for the staff to incorporate player suggestions in the purest sense. While we're on the clock for talking about the Staff's lack of time to do these things because of time and space, here's what our releases have been so far in 2021 (Going by Newsletters): January: Jan 4: Frostvale 2020 Gift Delivery War Jan 11: Booster Guests GGB Jan 18: Estates Update Jan 25: Frostval Gifting Contest Finale Februrary: Feb 1: Snugglefest (No Seasonal Quest) Feb 8: Giftbox Crossover Extraveganza Feb 15: Snugglefest Last Resort Feb 22: Devourer Saga Update (Eigerbuld) + Legion Shogun March: Mar 1: Baorus the Deathwright Mar 8: Legion GGB Mar 15: Blarney War (AKA the war that took us nearly 2 months to finish) Mar 22: April Fools Mar 29: Grenwog 2021 April: Apr 5: GGB Crossover 2 Apr 12: Bun Banneret Void Takeover Apr 19: Grenwog Festival Items (Hare Raiser and Berserker) Apr 26: Cinco De Mayo Super Event May: May 3: Protean Returns May 10: Twisted GGB May 17: Wabio Takeover May 24: War Between Shadows I May 31: Necromancer Class Testing June: Jun 7: Summer 2021 Giftboxes (Surfboards) Jun 14: War Between Shadows II Jun 21: Necromancer Skills 1-5 Jun 28: Summer 2021 Gifting Contest July: Jul 5th: War Between Shadows III Jul 12: July 2021 Giftboxes Jul 19: Olympax Jul 26: Necromancer 6-9 August: Aug 2: Become a Lich Aug 9: Thursday the 12 LTS + GGB Aug 16: Necromancer 11-15 Aug 23: War Between Shadows IV Aug 30: Necromancer 16-20 September: Sept 5: Summer Season of Gifting Finale Sept 12: Talk Like a Pirate Day Sept 19: War Between Shadows V Sept 26: The Lost Talon Set - Part I October: Oct 4: War Between Shadows Finale Oct 11: 19th AQ Anniversary Bronze Edition + Golden Giftboxes Oct 18: Necromancer Class Finale Oct 25: Mogloween 2021 - Zombie's Landing November: Nov 2: The Lost Talon Set - Part 2 Nov 9: Tibbles in the Tank Void Fight + New Twisted GGB's Nov 16: Harvest Festival - The Ratty Crown Nov 22: Black Friday Event Nov 29: Frostval Part 1 - Decorate the Tree + Token/Gold Contest December: Dec 6: Frostval Part 2 - Curse of the Rat Queen + Golden Giftboxes Dec 13: Frostval Part 3 - Wood you Kindly Dec 20: Frostval Part 4 - Delivery War Dec 27: New Years 2021 Anything that wasn't permanent content (AKA, no seasonal, no void rotation, Monthly GGB, contest, etc) is bolded. That leaves us with a total of 20/52. More than half of the releases this year have been dedicated towards things that aren't going to stay around. In particular it was dreadful that March and April this year saw NO PERMANENT CONTENT, two months straight of Seasonal + Rare Content. And all 52 releases from last year: January: Jan 6: Woolzard + Frostvale 2020 Contest Finale Jan 13: January 2020 Giftboxes Jan 20: Frostgale 3: Mistral's Request Jan 27: Keyote the Heartcrusher Takeover Februrary: Feb 3: GGB Crossover Extraveganza Feb 10: Snugglefest 2020 Feb 17: Starting Class Overhaul Feb 24: Legion Paragon Mount March: Mar 2: Devourer Saga Update 1-4 (Epilogue) Mar 9: Blarney the 12th War Mar 16: Spring Z-Token Sale + Legion Doomknight Mar 23: April Fools 2020 Mar 30: Grenwog Festival 2020 April: Apr 6: Final Fable GGB's Apr 13: Grenwog Mutant Eggs Apr 20: Devourer Saga Update 5-8 Apr 27: Void Dragon War May: May 4: Permanent Void Takeover Rotation May 11: May Golden Giftboxes May 18: Dragonlorn Keep + Z-Token Sale + 25% Battle Boost May 25: Devourer Saga Update 9-10 June: Jun 1: Dragonlorn Keep - Frontiers of Perdition Jun 8: June GGB's Jun 15: Paladin Skills 1-5 Jun 22: Paladin Skills 1-5 + Class Quest Jun 29: Dragonlord Keep July: Jul 6: Paladin Skills 5-10 Jul 13: July GGB Jul 20: Dragonlorn Keep Jul 27: Paladin Skills 10-15 August: Aug 6: Diamond Dog Void Takeover Aug 10: August GGB Aug 17: Paladin Skills 15-20 Aug 24: Dragonlorn Keep Aug 31: Back To School Contest September: Sep 7: Dragonlorn Keep Finale Sep 14: Talk Like a Pirate Day 2020 Sep 21: Into Dragonlorn Keep Sep 28: Devourer Saga Update 11 & 12 + Mogloween 2020 October: Oct 5: Paladin Finale Oct 12: 18th Anniversary Rares Oct 19: Silk Screamer Takeover Oct 26: Mogloween 2020 Quest November: Nov 2: Dragonlord Set Nov 9: Thursday the 12th GGB's Nov 16: Holiday Sale + Dragonlord Finale Nov 23: Harvest Festival 2020 Nov 30: Frostval 2020 Begins December: Dec 7: Welcome Home Dec 14: All Alone Dec 21: Frostval 2020 Delivery War Dec 28: New Years Rares So about 24/52, or 46%. Seasonal Releases in 2020 accounted for 15 of the releases. GGB's 7. (Corrections are welcome as I could have very well skewed the statistics, or miscounted. Nonetheless I still think it paints a rather indicting picture of the state of AQ content releases this year and the previous one.) At this point of the year last year already had 14 releases of permanent content, versus 9 this year. Now I am aware the Summer Saga is still in continuation and continuing Necromancer Update are on their way, but as of right now this year is looking particularly bad. Just for fun, I'll do 2019 as well: January: Jan 7: 250 Stat Upgrade Jan 14: Forge Masters + Robina Ranged Shop + Lunar Shields Jan 21: CustoSilva Champion + Spirit of Love Jan 28: War of the Fangs - Resurrection Februrary: Feb 4: Cross-Game GGB's Feb 11: Snugglefest Feb 18: Skill Scrolls Feb 25: Retro Art + Sounds March: Mar 4: GGB Update + Rare GGB's going away Mar 11: GGB - Robot Army Mar 18: Blarney Mar 25: Nothing To See Here! (April Fools) + Chibi Loco April: Apr 1: Skill Scrolls II + Spring Z token Sale Apr 8: Golden Dev Ticket Contest Apr 15: Grenwog Apr 22: Moderator Challenge Apr 29: Star Wars + Cinco De Maya May: May 6: Umazen Uprising I May 13: Umazen Uprising II May 20: Alpha Weredragon Void Takeover May 29: Summer Sales Event June: June 3: Burning Solstice I Jun 10: Surfboard Contest Winners Jun 17: Burning Solstice II - War Dragons Jun 24: Summer Donation Contest July: Jul 1: Independence Day Items Jul 8: Terra Bloodzerker Jul 15: Umazen Civil War Jul 22: Burning Solstice III - The Greatest Warrior I Jul 29: Summer Contest Ends August: Aug 5: Falerin Memorial Aug 12: August GGB - Furious Trobble + Pig Drake Aug 19: Burning Solstice IV - The Greatest Warrior II Aug 26: Burning Solstice V - The Choice To Fall + Back To School Contest Sept: Sep 1: Burning Solstice VI - The Question Sep 9: Rare Item Hunt Sep 16: Talk like a Pirate Day 15th Anniversary Sep 23: Burning Solstice - The Answer Sep 30: Mogloween October: Oct 7: TorontoSaurus Rex + Mogloween 2 (Zombie Hunter) Oct 14: Frostgale Part I Oct 21: Zhilo's Haunting + Plague Pick Oct 28: Moglween Finale November: Nov 4: Donation Contest Nov 11: Frostgale's Secret Nov 18: Special Guardian Upgrade Nov 25: Black Friday Sale December: Dec 2: Frostval Begins Dec 9: Ballad of the Chosen Dec 16: The Test of Thunder Dec 23: Frostval Delivery Dec 30: Guardian Giftboxes open 24 / 52 releases were permanent content. If we exclude TerraZerker (because it's premium), then that number does down to 23 / 52 in 2019, or 44% of the releases. EDIT: Adding onto this post to further track development in 2021.

Sapphire -> RE: Should AQ have a player suggestion contest? (8/2/2021 12:41:57)
PD's post is eye opening. I do think another sign is more and more the releases are after Thursday at 3pm more then not anymore. The team might be smaller now, who knows. That also means if that's true, those who are there are working harder. So I think maybe some appreciation might be due, to be honest. That said, I do feel as though if more content creation ideas came from the players, maybe the perception of releases by some who may view it as a downward trend may take a turn for the better. I know many players have had, or have their own suggestion thread. I have one, too. While my ideas arn't likely taking a deep dive into making sure the ideas are balanced according to standards, I don't think it should rule the basic idea out, nor from others. I do support some sort of player suggestion "event", or a few times per year the creation of ideas at least based on some of the suggestions. Maybe the player receives a free version, maybe it's a re-skin, or a MC bonus, or some other such "reward" for it being chosen. I really think a player suggestion motivated release would be really fun, too.

Zennistrad -> RE: Should AQ have a player suggestion contest? (8/6/2021 13:11:35)
quote: I do support some sort of player suggestion "event", or a few times per year the creation of ideas at least based on some of the suggestions. Maybe the player receives a free version, maybe it's a re-skin, or a MC bonus, or some other such "reward" for it being chosen. I think that Golden Giftboxes might be the best way to do this. While admittedly the idea of making player suggestion stuff premium content is something I'm a bit sour on, GGBs are already a guarunteed monthly release anyway and it seems to be where a large portion of the focus on new items is going, so working in stuff from the player suggestion subforum wouldn't necessarily take too much time away from what they're already doing. Granted, this admittedly all depends on how far in advance they're planning monthly GGBs and I know nothing about how that works or what the development side of it involves

PD -> RE: Should AQ have a player suggestion contest? (8/13/2021 21:39:25)
In general, we do have the Cross-Game Extravaganza in Feburary that implements player suggested crossover items. That is usually the time of year when that kind of stuff is mostly implemented from the community. Also that maybe this year with the end of the Summer Contest we might have a chance to have community feedback on how the items may interact. Also as a side note, I have updated my post from above about the state of the game. The track record of permanent content has not improved since I made that post originally. If anything the problem has gotten worse. However since that subject is not about this thread directly, I will go ahead and make my own thread about that subject on another day...

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