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NEOCROM -> The Hero, 13th lord of chaos (9/30/2023 4:46:39)

Any easy strategy for this fight? Like which class, which items, which weapons and such to be used in order to win?




Laeon val Observis -> RE: The Hero, 13th lord of chaos (9/30/2023 8:18:27)

Gear-wise, it's all back to basics of advanced Inn combat plus an understanding of fundamentals of gearswapping to properly utilize them: BiS All resist, BiS defensive, BiS healing. Nothing really extraordinary. I already gave you a link in the previous Q&A post you did for that in terms of equipment. And don't forget to use them in conjunction with weapon specials (they can include but are not limited to Lucky Hammer and BoA).

Class-wise... have you tried watching vids of how certain classes beat that quintet? Those will pretty much give you a hint of which ones handle that match with varying degrees of safety. So far, the Net has vids of Pirates, Ninjas, Rangers, Pyro, and KAAs match up on the chaotic party. Of course, this is assuming you've max levelled both yourself and your dragon. There is a 200-point dragon vid, but it's still recommended that both criteria are fulfilled to minimize the risks. The only one strong advice afterwards I can tell you is that don't try too hard to "ape" (Don't get that DF endgamer's jargon? How about the expression of "monkey see, monkey do"?) a fight demo. Spend as much time you need to learn the mechanisms of the classes best for the fight as much as the mechanics of the fight itself (it already has a forum pedia and Endgame wiki entry. Make of which will be of use to you). Those vids can offer a decent foundation for a roadway to winning, but you better be equally prepped that you'll somewhat fight blindly should your run get a derail. Case in point, I used Korriban's Ninja v TCS vid solely for a kill order (not exactly recommended as there were some close calls until I offed the Chaos DL, notwithstanding that there was no warning to strongly avoid getting ALL the ENIGMA debuffs simultaneously active) and getting some hint of a class's matchup against the fight since his vids are lengthy. The rest was up to me using my knowledge of the Ninja arts alongside combat intuition, the latter of which is usually utilized to be as discreet as possible on the timing to pop a potion or Hero Diet.




Lee -> RE: The Hero, 13th lord of chaos (9/30/2023 19:48:42)

Adding onto what Laeon had mentioned.

Chaos Slayers is a brutal fight by far. Some examples of this is Chaos Lord DragonLord stuns your Pets (hell of a mouthful) for 3 turns. This is exclusive to your Dragon to my knowledge. Another example is that if you get all ENIGMA debuffs, you'll instantly die from a Null DoT - for what it's worth, this little thing took the community in a Discord server a day or two to learn. Since you'd generally want to avoid as many debuffs as possible.

I'm assuming you have bare minimum gear like All resistance, MPM and Healing. If you don't, I'd highly recommend you obtain these for this fight due to it being difficult. Class recommendation wise, Kathool Adept handles this fight best as one would expect. If you don't have Kathool Adept or a 600 point (fully fed) Dragon, I'd suggest Ranger ( 600 point Dragon here) - I've attached the video links on the class names so you can check them out.

Ninja also works as well, I'm merely recommending classes that I've seen others suggest for what it's worth.

Happy to give a basic rundown on how the fight works, should you want one. My advice is to ape a video for this fight - if you decide to go blind, I highly recommend taking out the DragonLord fast and quick both due to the Pet Stun as well as because it applies a Damage Reduction effect on everyone but itself.

Definitely bring food and extra potions - better to chomp on a Seaweed near the end and win by a large margin than not and lose in my opinion.





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