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flyingkidjoe -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/24/2006 20:37:53)

were-king looks like he hits 2 hits of what ever u do doing

15-30? or 15-40ish




Slayer Zach -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/25/2006 3:48:09)

I think Wereking's dmg is weapon dmg + level-scaled. He hit 95 on Alpha DracoWolf with fire while I had Fyre Force Ultimate equipped.




Seto -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/25/2006 16:35:23)

Ok, I've been doing some research on Were-King and Safiria. It seems that the Were-King does not do damage of the element of your weapon. Rather, he does damage based on whatever element to which the foe is weakest. For me, he does fire damage on most of the foes because they are weakest to fire. But, to the Dracovamp Lord, he does light. And it doesn't change when I change weapons. I also brought him outside to RA and he did nothing but earth damage to all types of monsters. Queen Safiria does whatever element and type you do. If someone could just check this to make sure it's not just a glitch, that'd be great.

Edit: Also, it seemed to me that the Were-King does only Melee damage.




ForceSurge -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/25/2006 16:37:16)

Were-king's damage might be scaled, but I haven't found a big difference across different weapons, so long as they were all 100% resistance. Seems like he's attacking 75% of the time too, with whatever element you have equipped.

Also: Brought him outside to RA, and he still does 2 hits of whatever element and attack type I have equipped.




Seto -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/25/2006 17:00:38)

Very strange. Maybe mine is a glitch.




ForceSurge -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/25/2006 17:30:24)

Indeed. Does anyone have any idea what the formula for Were-King damage might be? I think if we get that and his BTH it should be all we need...

If its scaled, then something like 10 - (10 + Lvl^.85) works based on my results, does it check for everyone else?




The Drifter -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/25/2006 17:32:23)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Seto

Ok, I've been doing some research on Were-King and Safiria. It seems that the Were-King does not do damage of the element of your weapon. Rather, he does damage based on whatever element to which the foe is weakest. For me, he does fire damage on most of the foes because they are weakest to fire.
Edit: Also, it seemed to me that the Were-King does only Melee damage.


I find that wrong. With Lyfang equiped whe fighting a Dracovamp, he did magic water damage.

It also seems, that safria did elemnt X damage when I was using a triggerd light dragon blade, but were king did light.




Tola -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/26/2006 4:09:17)

Were-King does your element, but converts to Melee, it seems. Makes sense. I've checked this just now in the War. I'll do some exploring with him, see whether this holds out.

Hmm. Sarafia seems to be the same, but pure Magic now.




esbem -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/26/2006 5:27:02)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tola

Were-King does your element, but converts to Melee, it seems. Makes sense. I've checked this just now in the War. I'll do some exploring with him, see whether this holds out.

Hmm. Sarafia seems to be the same, but pure Magic now.


Yep, your weapons elment, but only versus monster in the war(Vampires/Dragon/Weres)




BlackFurion -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/26/2006 12:05:50)

Fyrwyrks (level 80) sellback is 1200, no 700 like the encyclopedia entry says.




The Drifter -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/26/2006 12:40:29)

quote:

ORIGINAL: esbem


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tola

Were-King does your element, but converts to Melee, it seems. Makes sense. I've checked this just now in the War. I'll do some exploring with him, see whether this holds out.

Hmm. Sarafia seems to be the same, but pure Magic now.


Yep, your weapons elment, but only versus monster in the war(Vampires/Dragon/Weres)


I just fought a geoto merc and were-king was still doing my weapon's elemnt and amage type.So, it isn't just monsters in this war.




alexefb -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/26/2006 20:35:20)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tola

Were-King does your element, but converts to Melee, it seems. Makes sense. I've checked this just now in the War. I'll do some exploring with him, see whether this holds out.

Hmm. Sarafia seems to be the same, but pure Magic now.
wereking did fire damage while i was using darklaw to an alpha dracowolf
edit: seto is right about wereking he does element seeking(the element that the monster is weakest against)
outside of the war safira does dark damage




Vortal -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/27/2006 14:34:22)

I believe it is spelled "Safiria", and now she seems to do darkness only when not in the war.




Jcbryant123 -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/27/2006 14:35:42)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Seto

Ok, I've been doing some research on Were-King and Safiria. It seems that the Were-King does not do damage of the element of your weapon. Rather, he does damage based on whatever element to which the foe is weakest. For me, he does fire damage on most of the foes because they are weakest to fire. But, to the Dracovamp Lord, he does light. And it doesn't change when I change weapons. I also brought him outside to RA and he did nothing but earth damage to all types of monsters. Queen Safiria does whatever element and type you do. If someone could just check this to make sure it's not just a glitch, that'd be great.

Edit: Also, it seemed to me that the Were-King does only Melee damage.


No they do w/e element your wep is. you most likely were using draklaw or lyfang when u did tis. which changes elements based of weakness. i imagine if u were to do the same with all ur weps that wouldnt happen.




KHLOVER -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/28/2006 2:50:45)

were king does earth damage outside of the war for me
and he becomes rather weak (5-10 i think) when not triggered




Seto -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/28/2006 8:48:46)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jcbryant123

No they do w/e element your wep is. you most likely were using draklaw or lyfang when u did tis. which changes elements based of weakness. i imagine if u were to do the same with all ur weps that wouldnt happen.



Incorrect. I would not make a mistake like that. If you were to read my first post that you quoted fully, you would notice the line "And it doesn't change when I change weapons." For example, right now I am using the Ultra Ice Katana on a Syphon Dracovampiress and, most obviously, doing ice damage. My Were-King guest is still doing fire damage. I have restarted my computer, cleared my cache, everything, and he still does it this way. Try switching weapons to one that definitely does not change elements (i.e. my UIK or a fire weapon or anything) and see if he changes elements.

In addition, I think esbem kind of had it correct with both guests doing their special damage only against vampires, lycans, etc. (monster types involved in the war). The Were-King did only earth damage to all other monsters for me.




Ithious -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/28/2006 21:51:50)

is razorclaw 1250 tokens or 1750? for me its 1750 but the encyclopedia says it changed to 1250.




VN 10 -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/29/2006 5:09:49)

well, from wad i checked, it's 1750 tokens




EdrickV -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/29/2006 5:42:36)

Not sure if this is a new thing or not, but Flogg isn't Guardian only.




sqks -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/31/2006 20:51:37)

Halliphax
Guest
Guardian only
Location: Alnaphar
Attack: Light/Darkness




Ninja Paladin -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/31/2006 20:58:37)

Pictures, anyone?

[image]http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5057/halliphaxmr5.jpg[/image]
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5057/halliphaxmr5.jpg

Other Hallifax (Reign Set Quest) info:

Attack Type: Melee
Attack Element: Darkness
Number of Attacks: 1




GoosLuM -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/31/2006 21:03:34)

2 pets also, Shadow Bird and Reign Pheonix lvl 10 req each




lord of digimon -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/31/2006 21:11:56)

info on halliphax in the shadow set quest

attack type magic
element light
hits 1

note ninja pally only did regain set quest he's diff for both




master of the gates -> RE: Pets/Guests III (8/31/2006 21:40:29)

Scion Phoenix

cost: 800 gold
level: 10
Sellback: ?

damage: 8-26
hits: 1
element: fire
type: Ranged

http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pheonixfb1.jpg

description: This Scion Pheonix has been trapped in Alnaphar for years. She is happy to be your loyal pet!




darkdragonvx -> RE: Pets/Guests III (9/1/2006 0:30:52)


quote:

ORIGINAL: master of the gates

Reign Phoenix

cost: 800 gold
level: 10
Sellback: ?

damage: 8-26
hits: 1
element: fire
type: Ranged

http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pheonixfb1.jpg


correction that should be scion phoenix




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