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arowaok -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 20:18:23)

So these people are called the faceless an they have avatars (I believe to be an embodiment of there soul in a humon). Truth's avatar was probably riona because he said we destroyed it. In the picture there are 8 firgures that I believe are the faceless. Maxwell said we meet them each day in lore. They must be main npc's like yuglar and riona and maybe mercurcia.




kingk -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 20:23:32)

his old avvy was not riona,it was makkisar when we were doing the future war,werent you around when that happened?




calibar -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 20:57:16)

why does this sound a wee bit like kh2?




OmniM. -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 21:00:01)

Man, well here are my thoughts....

Maybe the Fisherman isn`t tied in here.....but....maybe he`s a "pawn" of the Devourer or Truth?




Lkeas -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 21:05:13)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kellehendros

Eight is unlucky, yet we have a picture with eight Faceless. Seven is lucky, so one Faceless would have to be gone, unless the inverted/uninverted picture, in which only black and white change colors mean that two Faceless are the same. So if there's Seven, are the other Three (To make Truth's 10) the clan leaders? Certainly they, with the Fisherman, are deadly. (Like Truth said, Four is deadly, so is Three.)

*Shrug* Maybe I'm way off, and the numbers refer to certain Faceless in the picture, rather then a group. (For example, number them off 1-8 right to left.)


I agree with your last comment that the numbers probably represent specific Faceless. Usually when Truth capitalizes a word, it represents a character.

Truth has so far named 10 names that supposedly represent Faceless:

Death and Life
War and Peace
Truth and Lies
Eternal and Transient

Omega and Hope

Notice I put Omega and Hope separate from the other 8. That's because Truth has specified that the 8 are "family," while Omega is an "evil faceless" and Hope will "save us." Omega and Hope are also missing "counterparts." Notice the other 8 are all opposites. But Omega's counterpart should be Alpha, and Hope's should be Despair, if anything. I'm not sure if Alpha and Despair will ever show up, or if Omega and Hope were given unique names for a reason.

I think we should try to figure out which faceless belongs to which number.

Eight = unlucky (Death?)
Seven = lucky as can be (Life?)
Six = wicked (Truth?)
Five = much (Eternal?)
Four = deadly (Lies?)
Three = deadly (War?)
Two = little (Transient?)
One = belittled (Peace?)




Nickwright -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 21:06:51)

Riona is Truth's Avatar...it just is( I was the first with this theory!)

Edward is Death's

The 10 Faceless are
Life, Death, Truth, Lies, Peace, War, Eternal, Transient, Omega and Hope




kingk -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 21:07:04)

no,im pretty sure the fisherman is just an old man that started out wanting some power then got hungery for it.if he is a pawn he doesnt know it.just think about it he WAS just an old man now es a fish thing,after he gets all three he will be powerful but not working for anybody.HOPE IS NOT AN AVATAR HOPE IS A THEM NOT JUST ONE PERSON!! so rule out the possibility that hope is an avatar.and im trelling you hope is the future team,i mean where else do yuo look for hope but in the future its a quote too"look for hope in the future"i think its the future team that is hope and will save us all.




Nickwright -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 21:13:44)

I never said he was an Avatar....I said he was a Faceless




MegaSlaya -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 21:32:07)

Life (The Reaper)
Death (Edward)
Truth (Riona/Mercuria)
Lies (Uldor)
Peace (didnt think about him)
War (The fisherman)
Eternal (Eternal)
Transient (Valencia)
Omega (cor-demi) (fo rly)
Hope (Yourself???)

My opinions about it.




kingk -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 22:50:42)

nick your not getting it there is no HE hope is a group of people. max said THEM not him/her but them.see what i mean?




arrowdodger -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 23:08:52)

darkness- light, earth-wind,- fire- ice, water- thunder, 8 elemental lords 8 people in cloaks, that THE ELEMENTAL LORD OF DARKNESS might have something to do with this



http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=6084357


look closley at both pictures.......8 people 8 elemental lord each one distingueshed by the cloak there wearing and the lord who you can barely see near the earth might be the elemental lord of darkness




Wyrm -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 23:28:17)

How about this:

The new crystal Golem in the Dwarfhold Cave is also a female is it not¿ Could this be the person we are hearing about¿




bule -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/24/2006 23:35:55)

the tree is female but i doubt shes gonna be an avatar




Azerkail -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 1:51:21)

Since he mentioned LOST, I'd like to note that the LOST numbers are 4 8 15 16 23 42.

Now, Hope could be the Vizalain, as mentioned before, because they are a hive like thingy, multiple beings in one.

Can I bring your attention to Pandora's Box? This is a Greek Myth that involves Hope. In short here's the story. Taken from wikipedia.

The titan Epimetheus ("hindsight") was responsible for giving a positive trait to each and every animal. However, when it was time to give man a positive trait, there was nothing left. Prometheus ("foresight"), his brother, felt that because man was superior to all other animals, man should have a gift no other animal possessed. So Prometheus set forth to steal fire from Zeus and handed it over to man.

Zeus was enraged and decided to punish Prometheus and his creation: mankind. To punish Prometheus, Zeus chained him in unbreakable fetters and set an eagle over him to eat his liver each day, as the eagle is Zeus's sacred animal. Prometheus was an immortal, so the liver grew back every day, but he was still tormented daily from the pain, until he was freed by Heracles during The Twelve Labours.

To punish mankind, Zeus ordered the other gods to make Pandora as a poisoned gift for man. Pandora was given several traits from the different gods: Hephaestus molded her out of clay and gave her form; Athena clothed her and the Charites adorned her with necklaces made by Hephaestus; Aphrodite gave her beauty; Apollo gave her musical talent and a gift for healing; Demeter taught her to tend a garden; Poseidon gave her a pearl necklace and the ability to never drown; Zeus made her idle, mischievous, and foolish; Hera gave her curiosity; Hermes gave her cunning, boldness and charm. Thus the name Pandora—"all gifts"—in Hesiod's version derives from the fact that she received gifts from all deities.

The most significant of these gifts, however, was a pithos or storage jar, given to Pandora either by Hermes or Zeus. Before he was chained to the rock, Prometheus had warned Epimetheus not to take any gifts from the gods. Epimetheus did not listen to his brother, however, and when Pandora arrived, he fell in love with her. Hermes told him that Pandora was a gift to the titan from Zeus, and he warned Epimetheus not to open the jar, which was Pandora's dowry.

Until then, mankind had lived a life in a paradise without worry. Epimetheus told Pandora never to open the jar she had received from Zeus. However, Pandora's curiosity got the better of her and she opened it, releasing all the misfortunes of mankind (plague, sorrow, poverty, crime, despair, greed, etc.). Once opened, she shut it in time to keep one thing in the jar. The world remained extremely bleak for an unspecified interval, until Pandora "chanced" to revisit the box again, at which point Hope fluttered out. Thus, mankind always has hope in times of evil.

In another, more philosophical version of the myth, hope (Elpis) is considered the worst of the potential evils, because it is equated with terrifying foreknowledge. By preventing hope from escaping the jar, Pandora in a sense saves the world from the worst damage.

The daughter of Epimetheus and Pandora was Pyrrha, who married Deucalion and was one of the two who survived the deluge.
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Please note the underlined words, they are the key to Hope, I think. I believe Battleon is going to lose every war we fight against the Evils/Faceless (if we fight them, the Faceless's "concepts" were in the box) or the Devourer, and Hope/Vizalain will save us in the end.

Zeus represents who chained up the Devourer in the first place, and eventually, they will open Pandora's box. Maybe Hope is something evil, as noted in the philosophical version.

Of course, it could be us. Maxwell noted it's something we've seen everyday of our AQ lives.




Ogma -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 2:39:31)

Haliphax, new unidentified NPC.




Lkeas -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 3:31:44)

quote:

Hali - Middle English spelling of "Holy."

From Greek:
Phos = light
Words beginning with a 'phax' or 'phex' root seem to indicate light as well.

Phexe (Phi-Epsilon-Xi-Eta) = daybreak
Pheximo (Phi-Epsilon-Xi-Iotta-Mu-Omicron) = lightning


Put 'em together and whaddaya get?

Holy Light.

*cue dramatic music*




Ogma -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 3:38:50)

Truth's avatar is pure of light eh?




Truth -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 3:55:35)

My brothers and sisters will escape, to guide Hope. The war is beckoning, and we must prepare for the worst.




beany -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 3:57:22)

i think this truth stuff is just pure and utter spam.and so is truth.




lightbringer lord -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 6:23:01)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Truth

My brothers and sisters will escape, to guide Hope. The war is beckoning, and we must prepare for the worst.

So it seems some people are going to guide for the war...




The Dragon Lord -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 6:56:20)

people makkisar and carnax are in the past forgotten to all but the history books just like drakonnan!
LET IT DIE!!!!

but I do wounder who carnax master is




Korento Ratsastaja -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 9:17:33)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nickwright

Riona is Truth's Avatar...it just is( I was the first with this theory!)

Edward is Death's

The 10 Faceless are
Life, Death, Truth, Lies, Peace, War, Eternal, Transient, Omega and Hope


i said that in the first thread, i don't think you weren't there then (this is the 4th)




quote:

people makkisar and carnax are in the past forgotten to all but the history books just like drakonnan!
LET IT DIE!!!!

but I do wounder who carnax master is


actually, they are in the future o.0...and this isn't about Carnax and Makkisar, but about Truth and the other faceless, Makkisar was the avatar of Truth, that is why he gets mentioned

ps. carnax's master was makkisar




kingk -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 10:11:45)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Truth

My brothers and sisters will escape, to guide Hope. The war is beckoning, and we must prepare for the worst.

hey everbody! and azerial or whatever i agree on the hope theory.also with you lkeas.did anyone notice that he said escape as if they are imprisoned somewhere?lets go with the new thoery that the tree s hope,now,why would he giude it and to where and why?




skelitron0 -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 10:26:43)

hmm... i think that the picture means that truths new avatar will appear in the void first maybe its dweezel?




kingk -> RE: =AQ=Truth Stuff (8/25/2006 10:48:41)

his npc is a girl now please EVERYBODY WHO IS ON THIS AT THIS MOMENT IF YOU DONT NKNOW whats going on at least read up on half of the last page before making theories that are wrong and too far out we have already went threw the fact that his npc will be a female.




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