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lightbringer lord -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 13:54:08)

Anything new?




Agent Redemption -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:07:51)

mmm again I state its inposable to crack, ive run it fowards and backwards though displacements of 1-25(26 is returns to start). I can get one or two words in a line then the rest is gibberish.

posabilitys
1. not the right cypher method
2. mistake on seekers part
3. each word has its own cypher
4. more then one cypher is used.
5. not in english (in which case we'll need a linguist).

heh if its useing the same cypher as kyptos block 4 were screwed.

good luck to all the fellow cyptographers out there.




Elaith -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:11:57)

He gave us hints. The Iulius Caesar referred the possibility of the entire thing being a Caesar block to me. Caesar blocks were used to transmit data across lines through the Roman Army without the enemy being able to crack it. I have not checked this out yet however, as I have not had the time to put everything into squares.




Agent Redemption -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:17:28)

if you mean a Vigenère square yhea its posable I have a class to get to though so I cant test it right now.




sona -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:21:08)

Using a Caesar cipher and remembering the clues it can be decoded although much of the language is nonsensical there is a definite story that can be understood. Here is a link you may find useful http://www.secretcodebreaker.com/caesar.html




Elaith -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:28:21)

SEVOT YHTIL SEHTD NAGIL LIRBS AWTEB AWEHT
NIELB MIGDN AERYG DIDSE VOGOR OBEHT EREWY
SMIML LAEBA RGTUO SHTAR EMOME HTDNA NOSYM
KCOWR EBBAJ EHTER AWEBH CTACT AHTSW ALCEH
TETIB TAHTS WAJEH TNUHS DNADR IBBUJ BUJEH
TERAW EBHCT ANSRE DNABS UOIMU RFEHT DNAHN
IDROW SLAPR OVSIH KOOTE HTHGU OSEHE OFEMO
XNAME HTEMI TGNOL EERTM UTMUT EHTYB EHDET
SEROS THGUO HTNIE LIHWA DOOTS DNADO OTSEH
THGUO HTHSI FFUNI SADNA EMALF FOSEY EHTIW
KCOWR EBBAJ EHTDO OWYEG LUTEH THGUO RHTGN
ILFFI HWEMA CEMAC TISAD ELBRU BDNAH GUORH
TDNAH GUORH TDNAO WTENO OWTEN OKCAN SREKC
INSTN EWEDA LBLAP ROVEH TDAEH STIHT IWDNA
DAEDT ITFEL EHKCA BGNIH PMULA GTNEW EHKCO
WREBB AJEHT NIALS UOHTS AHDNA YOBHS IMAEB
YMSMR AYMOT EMOCY ALLAC HOOLL ACYAD SUOJB
ARFOY OJSIH NIDEL TROHC EHSEV OTYHT ILSEH
TDNAG ILLIR BSAWT EBAWE HTNIE LBMIG DNAER
YGDID SEVOG OROBE HTERE WYSMI MLLAE BARGT
UOSHT AREMO MEHTD NA

That's it decoded from the cipher. I just need to finish it.




Lkeas -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:30:33)

Wow Sonic... not sure how you got that... it's partly unscrambled but partly scrambled even more!




Elaith -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:33:27)

I applied the Caesar cipher with a multiplier of 13. My guess is now I need to apply the alberti disk.

http://www.cs.trincoll.edu/~crypto/historical/alberti.html

My guess is I am really gonna hate doing this one by hand.

DOUBLE EDIT: Ok, I am not sure I am gonna end up doing this in the right order, so the possibilities so everyone else keeps up are these:

Reverse alphabet: Implied by the backwards clock - 3

Alberti Disk: Implied by the alberti disk. -2

Caesar Cipher: Implied by the head of Caesar. - 1

That means the options are:
321
312
213
231
123
132

Six options for the decryption of this message.

It would be nice to have 5 other people handle five different facets of the possible decryption to maximize the efficiency of the process. Thanks in advance! Right now, I am going to do the process 123, and I already finished 1, as you saw above.




sona -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:47:46)

AND THE MOME RATHS OUTGRABE, ALL MIMSY WERE THE BOROGOVES, DID GYRE AND GIMBLE IN THE WABE: TWAS BRILLIG, AND THE SLITHY TOVES

THE FRUMIOUS BANDERSNATCH!" BEWARE THE JUBJUB BIRD, AND SHUN THE JAWS THAT BITE, THE CLAWS THAT CATCH! "BEWARE THE JABBERWOCK, MY SON!

AND STOOD AWHILE IN THOUGHT. SO RESTED HE BY THE TUMTUM TREE, LONG TIME THE MANXOME FOE HE SOUGHT -- HE TOOK HIS VORPAL SWORD IN HAND:

AND BURBLED AS IT CAME! CAME WHIFFLING THROUGH THE TULGEY WOOD, THE JABBERWOCK, WITH EYES OF FLAME, AND, AS IN UFFISH THOUGHT HE STOOD,

HE WENT GALUMPHING BACK HE LEFT IT DEAD AND WITH ITS HEAD THE VORPAL BLADE WENT SNICKER-SNACK! ONE, TWO! ONE, TWO! AND THROUGH AND THROUGH

HE CHORTLED IN HIS JOY O FRABJOUS DAY CALLOOH CALLAY COME TO MY ARMS MY BEAMISH BOY AND HAS THOU SLAIN THE JABBERWOCK

AND THE MOME RATHS OUTGRABE ALL MIMSY WERE THE BOROGOVES DID GYRE AND GIMBLE IN THE WABE TWAS BRILLIG AND THE SLITHY TOVES


(how's that...about as clear as mud)




Isphus -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:53:30)

wow, this is getting complicated




Maxx the Caretaker -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 14:58:30)

The Jabberwocky anyone?

It's from Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There by Lewis Carrol.

Here's a link.

Or, google "Jabberwocky" and you'll find it.




Elaith -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 15:00:10)

`Twas 4 PM, and the slimy badger-lizard-like creatures
Did spin and made holes in the garden plot round the sundial:
All flimsy and miserable were the shabby looking birds,
And the mome green pigs bellowed.


"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.


`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.



I AM WORKING ON APPLYING HUMPTY DUMPTY'S EXPLANATION




Hayama -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 15:00:58)

It's from a Lewis Carrol poem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabberwocky




Elaith -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 15:06:18)

Ok, so Lewis Carrol made the words by combining other words. His explanation of doing this can be found here:

http://www76.pair.com/keithlim/jabberwocky/poem/pronunciation.html




Maxx the Caretaker -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 15:22:31)

A clue with multiple meanings one of which is that clues (words) have multiple meanings. (How many saw that one coming?)

Other possible clues:
The Jabberwock (The'galin, Uncreator) is coming so beware.
Other monsters (agents) abound including the Jubjub bird and Bandersnatch.
And, "brillig" is typically defined as four o'clock--perhaps something is happening at that time. (But, we don't know to which four o'clock the Seeker is referring.)




EragonZZZZ -> RE: Clues VI (10/3/2006 15:29:58)

I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but if you run one of the codes through a base-64 translator. The translator links you to a web site, and if you wait long enough something pops up. It mentions to follow the white rabbit, which reminds me of alice in wonderland. Also, the new quest name?

Queen of Hearts?
Follow the White Rabbit?
Coincidence?


Sorry if this is obvious, I haven't been in for a while...




2 D -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 15:31:12)

IM going back on what I say and if NOVA is listing good.
I think we should all join NOVA. Apparently they know more then us and if them brainwashing us is the only way then we must sacrifice our souls to gain the information then before were zombies give that info to others.




sir morhan -> RE: Clues VI (10/3/2006 15:32:01)

hi all iv just found some thing quite interesting http://psyham.googlepages.com/truth'sposts




EragonZZZZ -> RE: Clues VI (10/3/2006 15:42:37)

White Rabbit: greetings Avatar I am Kalliope I am here to guide you, your quest is simple you must save all worlds from the darkness that is creeping over us all you know of the evil of which I speak truth has told you much but I am afraid he is corrupt the evil will never break its hold on Truth Truth tries desperately to escape his own prison he has formed when he bonded with his former master but I am afraid his attempts are not enough to save him the Avatar of all worlds are all needed to stop this great evil from destroying everything I need you to find the relic once you have it you must seek my in the land of Lore in the once place you know you are safe from all evil Follow the White Rabbit Avatar and remember all we really need is one person that can truly make a difference all we need is Hope.

found this...




Kuld -> RE: Clues VI (10/3/2006 16:06:54)

Greeneggsandham:NOVA contacts the ones it wants in its ranks, you cant join it recruits you.
Sir morhan:thats old
EragonZZZZ:thats old to




2 D -> RE: Clues VI (10/3/2006 16:50:56)

[:)] Ok then im out of plans or clues




term29 -> RE: Clues VI (10/3/2006 16:54:25)

click here to read some important things before you make insane theories.




Azerkail -> RE: Clues VI (10/3/2006 16:59:04)

Time to break out the Vorpal Blades, true believers?




Agent Redemption -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 17:22:12)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Maxx the Caretaker

The Jabberwocky anyone?

It's from Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There by Lewis Carrol.

Here's a link.

Or, google "Jabberwocky" and you'll find it.



soo thats why i couldnt make sense of it! its a poam with invented words. lmao and here I was running spell checks, scramblers, sentance invertion, and consulting diffrent langauges.

geez if I just could have decoded it in one big block(or simply seen jaberwock) instead of line by line I would have seen it long ago [&:]




apaper -> RE: NOVA, is Highlighting, Revealing, Posts. (10/3/2006 17:36:14)

Ok, fill me in. So is NOVA in real life, or in the game? Like is their a real organization in real life, or is it just something in the game for the mystery?




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