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12/24/2012 12:13:04   
The Finnish Phoenix
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quote:


Well Founder Champion can do 32(When he gets 20 energy he uses retribution +15 than he goes to 8 than 13(5 regeneration). And he uses 2 holy strikes with one used with might attack. Total of 32 :o)


Black Dragon can do that immediately with Shadowfire + Sacrifice x2 + Thrash x2.

If we're counting delayed attacks like Retribution though, Dragon can pump to 19 energy, use Mark of Death and Poison (after which it has 13 energy), draw (18 energy), and then use ShadowFire + Thrash x2 + Sacrifice x2 and then the delayed attacks go off for another 12 damage to total 44 in that one turn.

Before Ice was nerfed it could do 999 damage in one turn. x)
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12/24/2012 12:13:56   
Blackshock
Member

Hey guys, one more really odd thing that's been bugging me. Has anyone figured out the priority values of certain buffs? For example, when someone puts up both a counter and the ironhide, the counter gets first priority over the iron hide? Is it like Counter > iron hide > shields ?
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 552
12/24/2012 12:17:28   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

Oh true and if I remember correctly too Poison will dissolve Shields with Iron Hide up.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 553
12/24/2012 12:19:20   
Blackshock
Member

that brings up another idea. Besides poison, what other Dots bypass certain defense cards? I know for certain that cat's grace bypasses counter.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 554
12/24/2012 12:20:14   
theathenaflame
Member

Yay
I started all this
Black Dragon
Vs.
Founder Champion

Offtopic: I liek Fire Witch way better...(Can do 21 damage with Incinerate and Fireball with just 12 energy) Fireball is I believe takes 8 energy/Incinerate dont cost anything but its like empower but you have to discard a card you dont want and for say a 4/5 damage card and place it in Incinerate it raises the attack damage up 7 points)~~~(BUT if you have the max energy you place 2 burns (A DoT that does 2 damage for 3 turns which helps alot with defence or making HP low)~~(Then if after that you can repeat the process)

< Message edited by theathenaflame -- 12/24/2012 12:21:47 >

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12/24/2012 12:22:06   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

Black Dragon is better than everything.

quote:


that brings up another idea. Besides poison, what other Dots bypass certain defense cards? I know for certain that cat's grace bypasses counter.


Every DoT bypasses counter.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 556
12/24/2012 12:23:11   
Blackshock
Member

My only gripe with the pyre witch is that it's lack of defense basically makes it a glass cannon. Put up enough pressure before she gets to 8 charge for a fireball and things get bad pretty fast.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 557
12/24/2012 12:27:28   
Char
Member

I remember when fire witch used to be the best. *sighs* good times...
Post #: 558
12/24/2012 12:28:16   
megakyle777
Member

quote:

@megakyle: oops forgot about that. Hey megakyle did you know there is an avatar that says megakyle?


I don't think I will change it since my current avvy means something to me, but for curiosity's sake tell me where please.

Also, I just want some new gameplay features in game TBH.
DF  Post #: 559
12/24/2012 12:30:35   
Char
Member

@Megakyle: K Ill look for it I think I remember.
Post #: 560
12/24/2012 12:30:49   
theathenaflame
Member

quote:

My only gripe with the pyre witch is that it's lack of defense basically makes it a glass cannon. Put up enough pressure before she gets to 8 charge for a fireball and things get bad pretty fast.


Thats exactly I like Pyre Witch.. Its more on the side of Offensive and can hit to a pretty good damage like Black Dragon but Black Dragon is capable of using sacrifice Which REALLY helps a Pyre Witch slip through in winning

< Message edited by theathenaflame -- 12/24/2012 12:31:42 >

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12/24/2012 12:31:54   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

quote:


I remember when fire witch used to be the best. *sighs* good times...


Poison was always a lot better than Fire Ball, especially when it cost 5 energy and did 4 per turn for 3 turns. Blood Void and Cave Zardman ran everything in Alpha. By the time Incinerate came out VampireLord and PumpkinLord were running everything.

< Message edited by The Finnish Phoenix -- 12/24/2012 12:32:33 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 562
12/24/2012 12:34:23   
BlueKatz
Member

^to be fair Fireball used to cost 5 charges
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 563
12/24/2012 12:35:36   
bobtehnoob
Member

Vampirelord ran everything?
I don't remember that.
I beat a level 15 Vampirelord with a level 3 Pumpkinlord...
Post #: 564
12/24/2012 12:46:06   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

quote:


^to be fair Fireball used to cost 5 charges


Yeah but at one per Deck and Power Strikes and Poisons were in multiples. With 15 HP Zardman and Blood Void could win with their first hand more reliably than Witch.

quote:


I beat a level 15 Vampirelord with a level 3 Pumpkinlord...


Unless you have a vid or something to prove otherwise I'll assume that if that happened your opponent refreshed and you were fighting AI.

< Message edited by The Finnish Phoenix -- 12/24/2012 12:48:38 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 565
12/24/2012 12:47:43   
Vagaran
Member

quote:

Black Dragon is better than everything.


Clearly, you also have to take into consideration:

Artifacts
Customizeable decks
Stats
Luck (what you draw means ALOT + starting first can give you the edge)
Energy cost of cards.


EDIT: And Elemental Resistance

< Message edited by vagaran123 -- 12/24/2012 12:51:54 >
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 566
12/24/2012 12:48:50   
Andlu
Member

@Bob Depends on luck and if you draw good cards. Vampire lord can keep using mark of death and poison on you and you can just span iron hide. He won't be able to TOUCH you. It depends on luck.
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 567
12/24/2012 12:52:22   
bobtehnoob
Member

quote:

Unless you have a vid or something to prove otherwise I'll assume that if that happened your opponent refreshed and you were fighting AI.


He used multiple attacks all the way to the end.

quote:

@Bob Depends on luck and if you draw good cards. Vampire lord can keep using mark of death and poison on you and you can just span iron hide. He won't be able to TOUCH you. It depends on luck.


I know. One HP left: Iron Hide!

But still, dude, I was only level 3.
Post #: 568
12/24/2012 12:53:48   
Fallen Crest
Member

Order of the most powerful characters at their respective times (From my experience):

1: Blood Void OR Fire Witch (Stress Testing)
2: Cave Zardman OR Blood Void (Alpha)
3: Spear Native (People went crazy when Counter Strike was introduced) (Alpha)
4: Shadow Pikemaster (When sacrifice was introduced, and characters had +5 Health per level than +2) (Alpha)
5: Black Dragon (When Introduced) (Beta)
6: Ice Characters (After buff) (Beta)
7: Black Dragon (Now) (Beta)
AQW  Post #: 569
12/24/2012 12:55:40   
Skurge
The Dealer
quote:

6: Ice Characters (After buff) (Beta)


There was a buff?

-S
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 570
12/24/2012 12:56:22   
bobtehnoob
Member

7: Black Dragon, Founder Legendary, Revontheus.
Post #: 571
12/24/2012 12:56:36   
Vagaran
Member

Founder Champ is also pretty powerful right now (10 Heal is pretty great, and can turn the tide of a battle)
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 572
12/24/2012 12:56:56   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

quote:


Clearly, you also have to take into consideration:

Artifacts
Customizeable decks
Stats
Luck (what you draw means ALOT + starting first can give you the edge)
Energy cost of cards.


EDIT: And Elemental Resistance


I am taking energy costs into account and a Black Dragon player can get lucky too, luck doesn't in of itself change Black Dragon's being better than everything.

How do you propose that I take Artifacts, Customizable Decks, and Elemental Resistance into consideration when they aren't out yet and we don't how they work?

Black Dragon is a lot better than Founder Champion and slightly better than Rev.

< Message edited by The Finnish Phoenix -- 12/24/2012 12:57:30 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 573
12/24/2012 12:57:55   
Char
Member

@megakyle: sorry i couldnt find it anywhere but i swear that is saw it once, hmm confusing but to be fair i couldnt even find my own avatar, so

< Message edited by Little Rascal -- 12/24/2012 12:59:08 >
Post #: 574
12/24/2012 12:58:58   
Fallen Crest
Member

quote:

There was a buff?


Ice was the weakest element before they got Shatter and Ice Orb. Nulgath trained his Barbarian to Barbarian Master, and said it was so grueling and painful to him, he buffed them.

Edit: Oh, and Freeze got buffed to 2 turn stun than 1 turn. Later to be nerfed by limiting to one per deck to get rid of chain stunning.

< Message edited by Fallen Crest -- 12/24/2012 13:05:01 >
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