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6/1/2009 16:28:04   
Nickwright
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 Actually all of those in the cipher can be squared, perfectly.
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6/1/2009 16:32:15   
Gundisalvus
Member

@Nickwright:What about 289? Although that really could just be a typo.

Anyways, I just remembered something having to do with the poem.
quote:

"One and one and one is three"
Got to be good-looking cos he's so hard to see

That is what you hear when you play one of the Beatles albums! That is the exact wording! It evens fits the "insectoid singing group!"

< Message edited by Gundisalvus -- 6/1/2009 16:34:19 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 302
6/1/2009 16:32:54   
Nickwright
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 289 Squared is 17
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6/1/2009 16:35:23   
Gundisalvus
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@Nickwright:Now I feel dumb. I think I got something with the Beatles connection though.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 304
6/1/2009 16:35:39   
Silverdragon
Member

Actually, I think that's the lyrics of an actual song by them. I heard it on the radio not so long ago. That song is Come Together.
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6/1/2009 16:38:53   
Gundisalvus
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@Silver:Yeah you're right. I thought it was what you heard when you played Come Together backwards, but I guess I was wrong.
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6/1/2009 16:41:04   
Traveler
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 That sentences are indeed the ending of "Come Together", by The Beatles. And I guess they are the key to solving the puzzle, but I'm stuck. I've been trying to take the results of the square roots and sum them in groups of three (for the "one and one and one is three" part), but it has led me nowhere.
AQ  Post #: 307
6/1/2009 16:45:31   
Silverdragon
Member

Eldron said that one and one and one and one is four would be more appropriate.
So I think the key is to organise them in groups of four or something like that.
AQ DF  Post #: 308
6/1/2009 16:46:58   
Nex del Vida
Member

Gun: Yeah, that's the point. The Beatles reference was so he could say one and one and one and one is four.

Nickeh: Nope. 19 can't be rooted perfectly (assuming you meant "rooted perfecty," not "squared perfectly." All integers can be squared perfectly.)

I have to go, since I'm on my mother's ancient computer that can't use IRC and is ridiculously slow, but before my laptop shut down I tried removing every fourth letter. I got this:

289 44 3 400 144 44 14 40 25 25 34 81 25 16 36 25 1 9 16 6 16 169 6 81 25 34 36 1 22

144 96 31 1 40 4 19 40 4 19 289 121 6 81 16 29 14 676 1 22 400 100 21 4 00 6 32

36 10 22 400 6 12 4 40 100 144 21 16 14

I tried rooting where applicable and adding digits where not, and got gibberish.

Two things I do notice, though: "40 4 19" appears twice in a row in the second line. Also, the last digit in each line was one of the removed ones (it was a fourth number).

< Message edited by Nex del Vida -- 6/1/2009 16:48:16 >
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6/1/2009 16:48:33   
Traveler
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 Yes, but in the other puzzles Eldron's and Falerin's clues have never been ment to be taken literally (they gave us some keys, but only if you didn't do exactly what they said), so I would be cautious with the importance of number 4.
AQ  Post #: 310
6/1/2009 16:51:27   
Nex del Vida
Member

Untrue. In Eldron's first puzzle, he said "Eliminate Falerin... eliminate Admiral Amada... eliminate Zorbak" quite clearly, if not so succinctly.
AQ  Post #: 311
6/1/2009 16:55:22   
Traveler
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 That's what I meant: he told us to discard them as authors of the message, which was misleading if taken literally. We had to eliminate them, but not in the way he told us.
AQ  Post #: 312
6/1/2009 16:55:12   
Nickwright
Creative!


 we believe 19 is merely a typo but who knows
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 313
6/1/2009 16:56:52   
Silverdragon
Member

I'm gonna try Traveler's idea, but using 4 numbers.
BTW: here's the serie when rooted, assuming 19 was a typo and meant 169 or 196
17 12 6 20 1 12 12 12 20 5 15 18 9 25 14 6 25 1 (14,13) 4 4 13 13 6 9 15 18 19 1 15

12 14 19 1 20 2 13 20 2 14 17 1 11 4 9 1 4 17 12 26 9 15 20 2 10 11 2 10 6 18

6 10 15 20 4 11 2 20 10 1 12 11 14 12
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6/1/2009 16:58:21   
Nex del Vida
Member

Mm. Perhaps we do have to work with 1+1+1=3 rather than 1+1+1+1=4. Or maybe 12 has something to do with it, as it is the LCM of 3 and 4.
AQ  Post #: 315
6/1/2009 16:59:14   
ringulreith
Member

Perhaps the "1"s in the number sequence mean something?
Post #: 316
6/1/2009 17:00:13   
Gundisalvus
Member

@ont:I thought that might be the case, but there are more than four ones.
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6/1/2009 17:01:03   
kors
Member

mabye hes trying ment to use brinary or some other language that uses the number 1 it has to fit in somewhere in the puzzle if it is mentioned, right?
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 318
6/1/2009 17:01:41   
ringulreith
Member

How much ones are there?
Post #: 319
6/1/2009 17:02:55   
Gundisalvus
Member

@ont:I believe that there are six.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 320
6/1/2009 17:07:45   
ringulreith
Member

Perhaps the one represents a space/division? Somebody try dividing every part before a one into 4 parts.
Post #: 321
6/1/2009 17:09:06   
Silverdragon
Member

@ont and Gundis no there are 7 "1", I did a count on the previous page.

I tried my idea and got
CKFB (Q/R) JIPPWGEJOJYKH

BTW 1111 is 15 in binary and 111 is 7.
AQ DF  Post #: 322
6/1/2009 17:09:18   
Nickwright
Creative!


 I believe we're onto something here...


QLFTALLLTEORIYNFYAMBBMMFIORSAO
LNSATBMTBNQAKDIADQLZIOTBJKBJFR

FJOTDKBTJALKNL

is what we get squared with 19 = 169 as a typo


the last line is 14 letters long with
J K L T repeating

Temura Ge'Thrak

is 14 letters
with
T E R A repeating
so going on this

The puzzle is scrambled.

I believe however that this is the right way....
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 323
6/1/2009 17:11:45   
Dathomir2
Member

quote:

289 144 36 400 1 144 144 144 400 25 225 324 81 625 196 36 625 1 19 16 16 169 169 36 81 225 324 361 1 225

144 196 361 1 400 4 169 400 4 196 289 1 121 16 81 1 16 289 144 676 81 225 400 4 100 121 4 100 36 324

36 100 225 400 16 121 4 400 100 1 144 121 196 144

take out every 1

289 44 36 400 44 44 44 400 25 225 324 8 625 196 36 625 9 6 6 69 69 36 8 225 324 36 225

44 96 36 400 4 69 400 4 96 289 2 6 8 6 289 44 676 8 225 400 4 100 2 4 100 36 324

36 00 225 400 6 2 4 400 00 44 2 96 44
oh man. Wow, I missed a bit. Sorry

< Message edited by Dathomir2 -- 6/1/2009 17:15:07 >
AQ MQ  Post #: 324
6/1/2009 17:16:51   
ringulreith
Member

I'd like to note that "1", except one case, always appears after a 3-digit number (except once after 89)
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