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6/3/2009 16:35:36   
swenson
Member

July 3. It's posted everywhere.
DF MQ  Post #: 626
6/3/2009 16:38:27   
Falerin
Legendary Loremaster


 [In Character]
When it rains it pours.

I have gained some information about the leader of a race of beings known as the Virin, or alternatively the Viren, apparently both spellings are used depending on the dialect of the speaker, these creatures are apparently servitors of the network and it if what rumor I hear is true it is fortunate for lore they were not encountered among the forces of the networks here on Lore. Diviara sent along this message to me with from a former friend in the network whom he still trusts to be on our side. It is apparently one that originates among the Virin's leadership. Diviara was able to provide me with the only the following. The encryption seems to be a polyalphabetic cipher. I am inclined to consider it the the work of Bellaso and Diviara agrees. Almost assuredly the key is the name of the Virin leader. With these two pieces of information the message can be decoded. Beware irrelevancies as they may distract here.
[/In Character]

Cipher is as follows:

DIW FLRA GPBD WBSAW MGKM D KPNP BURUZN XIRI UYGLQ PA F UBBD ZB
Post #: 627
6/3/2009 16:48:09   
TreadLight
Member
 

 "When it rains, it pours means that once something happens after a long pause, it happens in large amounts."

This could refer to the huge amount of words given to us from the previous puzzle.

I am convinced that the name we are looking for is in the list of words we had found in the previous puzzle.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 628
6/3/2009 16:49:06   
swenson
Member

Which is the name of the leader, though?
DF MQ  Post #: 629
6/3/2009 16:52:29   
TreadLight
Member
 

 Well, that's what I am talking about. It's probably in the list of words that we had found, or may be still never found in the previous puzzle.

Let's do some huntin'.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 630
6/3/2009 16:58:33   
Nickwright
Creative!


 Can someone post a list of all the relevant names?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 631
6/3/2009 17:00:23   
Falerin
Legendary Loremaster


 Probably not
Post #: 632
6/3/2009 17:01:51   
Dragonnightwolf
How We Roll Winner
Apr/Jun/Aug15


 sure in the second list I found han, ted, zed, devourer, mae twilly and goieln(this last may or may not be a person)

Now that I think about it, we aren't sure how relevant these names are. But, I have a really big hunch the devourer's name is probably important.

< Message edited by Dragonnightwolf -- 6/3/2009 17:04:34 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 633
6/3/2009 17:10:00   
Nex del Vida
Member

...Because we have NO idea what the Viren's language is like. The name of the leader could be the "aaaa a" in the first puzzle, or one of the apostrophes... we simply have no idea.


< Message edited by Nex del Vida -- 6/3/2009 17:14:31 >
AQ  Post #: 634
6/3/2009 17:14:09   
TreadLight
Member
 
quote:

[17:06] <Miles> I think Goieln is the name.
[17:06] <Insanity_Incarnated> Remeber it can also be Nleiog
[17:07] <Nick> Can't be
[17:07] <Dragonnightwolf> ?
[17:07] <Nick> The only word with 6 letters is
[17:07] <Nick> BURUZN
[17:07] <Nick> Goieln doesn't have repeating letters
[17:07] <Miles> "Virin, or alternatively the Viren, apparently both spellings are used depending on the dialect of the speaker"
[17:08] <Miles> That could mean something.
[17:08] <Dragonnightwolf> the dialect of the speaker.
[17:08] <Dragonnightwolf> hmm.
[17:08] <Miles> I may equal E
[17:08] <Miles> Nick, the I may be an E in the message for Goieln
[17:09] <Miles> Therefore, the two Us are useable
[17:09] <Nick> true
[17:09] <Dragonnightwolf> in that case it would look like goeeln?
[17:09] <Dragonnightwolf> or it would look like goiiln
[17:09] <Miles> Possbly, DNW
[17:09] <Miles> Possibly*
[17:09] <Nick> It'd look like Giolin
[17:09] <Nick> or soemthing
[17:09] <Nick> It isn't scrambled we don't think
[17:10] <Nick> so Goilen or whatever's double letters would still have to match up to the Us in BURUZN
Here's an interesting idea we came up with on IRC. 'Just thought it could help everyone out.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 635
6/3/2009 17:16:18   
Nex del Vida
Member

...Why would Goieln have anything to do with anything? It could just as easily be any other six-letter string.
AQ  Post #: 636
6/3/2009 17:18:31   
Gundisalvus
Member

I assume that it is a name that can be found in both word search puzzles.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 637
6/3/2009 17:19:09   
TreadLight
Member
 

 Indeed it can, but it was on some of the lists posted on the previous pages, and seemed to be the most abstract and unseen one in each of them.

Of course, it really can be any of them, but we may as well start somewhere with this idea.

Edit:

quote:

[17:17] <Falerin> Presently I am present to be a mocking presence of entirely out of character derision
[17:18] <Dragonnightwolf> ?
[17:18] <swenson> Awwwww, thanks! I'm glad you love us so very much.
[17:18] * swenson feels all warm and fuzzy inside
[17:18] <Falerin> Or in other words
[17:18] <Falerin> to say to you all
[17:18] <Falerin> Cold
[17:18] <Miles> nuuu
[17:18] <Falerin> Freezing so very very freezing
...
[17:19] <swenson> So when you said "commonality"... did you mean in letters between the two? *tests temperature*
[17:19] <Falerin> The question is presuposed on a false dichotomy
[17:20] <Insanity_Incarnated> So everything we've done so far is leading us nowhere. Great.
[17:20] <Falerin> Warmer... but not quite warm enough
[17:20] <Falerin> Try words
[17:20] <Falerin> Whole words
[17:20] <Falerin> Thank You
[17:20] <Falerin> Come again

;_;

< Message edited by TreadLight -- 6/3/2009 17:23:34 >
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 638
6/3/2009 17:22:40   
swenson
Member

quote:


<swenson> So when you said "commonality"... did you mean in letters between the two? *tests temperature*
...
<Falerin> Warmer... but not quite warm enough
<Falerin> Try words
<Falerin> Whole words
<Falerin> Thank You
<Falerin> Come again


EDIT: His line about "the question is based..." was a reply to "<Clyde> Are we getting colder or warmer? ", I think, because he posted it right after me. He wouldn't have had time to reply to mine yet.

< Message edited by swenson -- 6/3/2009 17:25:19 >
DF MQ  Post #: 639
6/3/2009 17:27:07   
Denolth
Sailing


 So, we need to find the leader's name... Ok. Oh, just a quick question. I'm sorry for asking, but let's say we've got the key: how can we decode it after finding the key?

I'll be looking on the words to see if there's one that repeats on both.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 640
6/3/2009 17:27:43   
swenson
Member

Maybe a Vigenere Cipher, like the one here: http://sharkysoft.com/misc/vigenere/
DF MQ  Post #: 641
6/3/2009 17:29:48   
Aaronrules380
Member

its a polyalphabetic cipher, so if we get the name I can try and solve it. also, can anyone show me what was left in the word search part?
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 642
6/3/2009 17:31:41   
swenson
Member

"Polyalphabetic" is pretty vague, though- it covers a lot of kinds of ciphers.
DF MQ  Post #: 643
6/3/2009 17:34:56   
Aaronrules380
Member

I guess. He said it was the work of bellaso, so maybe use something in this article
wiki article
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 644
6/3/2009 17:40:54   
Denolth
Sailing


 Madder has 6 letters, and I'm pretty sure it was at least on the first word search puzzle. Any possibilities? By the way, Purgos has 6 letters too...

< Message edited by Dudu Master -- 6/3/2009 17:42:30 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 645
6/3/2009 17:46:46   
swenson
Member

OK, it's probably a Vigenere Cipher. That was invented by Bellaso. Now we just need the key...
DF MQ  Post #: 646
6/3/2009 17:47:27   
Aaronrules380
Member

ok so according to another article I found, vigenere ciphers were made by Bellaso, so it is probably a vigenere
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 647
6/3/2009 17:58:13   
wolfmansbro
Member

ok i want to help but i need to know how to get on IRC or whatever. i enjoy cracking codes. is that somehow like fate or destiny? im related to Samuel Morse but could that just be a coincidence? ill be prepared if they give us some sort of morse code thing. anyway lets do this!!!
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 648
6/3/2009 17:59:44   
swenson
Member

wolfmansbro- go to caelestia.net. When you get on, type /join #mystery to join the right room.
DF MQ  Post #: 649
6/3/2009 18:00:26   
Aaronrules380
Member

can anyone post both puzzles with what's been done on them so far?
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 650
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