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7/20/2009 1:51:39   
Dragonnightwolf
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Apr/Jun/Aug15


 Lkeas. I figured out why your answer came out wrong.

The correct roman numerals are 167, not 157.


CLCVII

putting this into google search=167

< Message edited by Dragonnightwolf -- 7/20/2009 4:00:18 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 176
7/20/2009 9:08:33   
Coldkick
Member

DNW. It auto corrected it to say CLXVII.

I think its actually 157

Whoops typo

< Message edited by Coldkick -- 7/20/2009 9:42:10 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 177
7/20/2009 9:24:17   
mluther
Member
 

 actually I'm pretty sure it was established that it was 157 quiet awhile ago, I'll look for a quote.

back on page 4 kirby posted
quote:

C > L < C > V > I = I
C + (C-L) + V + I + I
100+(100-50)+5+1+1
157


eldron said he was right.

< Message edited by mluther -- 7/20/2009 9:28:54 >
AQ MQ  Post #: 178
7/20/2009 10:21:21   
Dragonnightwolf
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 good catch CK.

I won't be around a computer today I don't think. At least not until after um. six pm general mountain time.
Due to being at a pre-scheduled appointment.
AQW Epic  Post #: 179
7/20/2009 10:37:27   
goron link8
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The Amada cannot not be allowed to find what it seeks

spoiler:

Admiral Amada's son was killed in an attempt to protect lore from meteors heading right at it
he swore he would find the source of the meteors and we did
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 180
7/20/2009 11:25:58   
murdering zealot
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 i think the code really must be 157 with the enigma simulator.

< Message edited by murdering zealot -- 7/20/2009 11:35:18 >

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DF  Post #: 181
7/20/2009 14:16:26   
Aaronrules380
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I think the count back from 4 clue was as guessed earlier, the ring position so itd be 4 3 2. the only thing I'm unsure of is what they key could be

< Message edited by Aaronrules380 -- 7/20/2009 14:18:47 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 182
7/20/2009 14:25:52   
Krayola
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 The can't back from four clue was most likely to count back four post to show that lkeas was right.
AQ DF  Post #: 183
7/20/2009 14:28:38   
Aaronrules380
Member

ah never mind then
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 184
7/20/2009 14:52:36   
Krayola
Mmm, I wuv fish!


 Was the plug board used? It seemed as if the answer was it was not used for puzzle two from what eldron said. (obviously)
AQ DF  Post #: 185
7/20/2009 16:44:17   
Dragonnightwolf
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Apr/Jun/Aug15


 somehow I don't get the feeling that going back from four referred to lkeas earlier post.

perhaps taking 4 from 157 which would equal 153.

And no the plug board as far as I understand had not been used.
AQW Epic  Post #: 186
7/20/2009 16:55:49   
Aaronrules380
Member

No, the wheel order is defintely 1 5 7. If you look back at the questions I asked if the wheel order(well I used the german word but still) was 157. Fal and eldron said it was, so obviously that part is right
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 187
7/20/2009 20:53:16   
  Vivi
Outsmarting Bugs


 Just a thought, but is the "o'rly" in that image Fal posted relevant? In the conversation he had with Eldron on IRC he noted that the interwebz does funny things to owls...it might have something to do with rotor positions or the Ringstellung.

Tsk, a shame. I used "rly" for the ringstellung and got LAN as a key when I used the "SEE OWL" thing, I thought I had it but it still comes out as gibberish >.< I'm curious to know if there's another step or not, if there isn't I'm lost for a ringstellung position or a trigram.

< Message edited by phoenixfire555 -- 7/20/2009 20:56:21 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 188
7/20/2009 22:37:37   
darkforcebomber1
Member

the o'rly could be there to put us off.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 189
7/21/2009 0:52:11   
Lord Asrius
Member

I'm pretty sure he was just having a laugh at us.
I'm just sad this computer doesn't have room for the simulator. D: And my other computer is currently indisposed.
AQ DF  Post #: 190
7/21/2009 6:52:13   
Necrotix
Member

What are we up to.I'm currently reading up on the Enigma from the instructions.

< Message edited by Necrotix -- 7/21/2009 7:13:06 >
Post #: 191
7/21/2009 9:50:12   
Issa
Member

Right guys, I'm available to help for around an hour. How are we doing, what are we on?
DF  Post #: 192
7/21/2009 14:51:56   
Lord Asrius
Member

If you're able to download the Enigma simulator, then do so. Play around with 157, SEE OWL and such things. Also the rings are 432.
AQ DF  Post #: 193
7/21/2009 15:40:22   
  Vivi
Outsmarting Bugs


 I think the "count back from 4" clue was just to say Lkeas was on the right track...

In the original puzzle Eldron notes that codes are not the network's strong "suite"...a suite could mean "a set of musical pieces considered as one composition" according to wikipedia, I wonder if there are any suites relating to owls that could give us two trigrams.

< Message edited by phoenixfire555 -- 7/21/2009 16:04:28 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 194
7/21/2009 16:27:22   
Eldron
Member

Just a random thought, assuming the rings are 157, then the key has to be 3 letters since you only have 3 rings to set.

Just a thought.
Post #: 195
7/21/2009 16:41:39   
Aaronrules380
Member

but wasn't 157 the wheel order? Unless it's both and we have a totally wrong key of course, since owl doesn't work
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 196
7/21/2009 16:44:24   
Coldkick
Member

Maybe 157 is a two way clue. the rotors to use as well as the positions to set them in before putting in the key.

< Message edited by Coldkick -- 7/21/2009 16:48:56 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 197
7/21/2009 16:49:39   
Lkeas
Member

Right, we know the key is only 3 letters, but what I had asked previously was whether we had to do the standard decryption to find the key. Meaning two sets of trigrams, set the Enigma machine to the first trigram, type in the second trigram to get the 3-letter key. Or is the key just "OWL" and forget the whole trigram thing? Because that doesn't seem to work either...
AQ DF  Post #: 198
7/21/2009 19:23:37   
Necrotix
Member

I changed 157.It changes to AEG.I get this but I can't seem to understand how this decrypts messages.
Post #: 199
7/21/2009 19:23:50   
Lord Asrius
Member

Did we try SEA?
AQ DF  Post #: 200
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