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4/22/2011 2:14:31   
xxmirxx
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This not about me. I made this to point out problem in game thats it.
AQ Epic  Post #: 26
4/22/2011 2:42:51   
Shadronica
Member

I am very glad you brought this topic up xxmirxx.

Sometimes it is easier to say "if you don't have something nice to say then don't say it" should apply but when you see something that is unfair or unjust I believe in stating that I don't like it.

Giving someone a bad time for no special reason other than just feeling like giving someone a bad time is bullying.

Trolling is another form of bullying.

If someone IS harrassing you and you don't have the time or means to take a screenshot of their remarks then you can always report them for harrassment in the game.

If someone IS harrassing you on the forum I am sure that if it gets out of hand then the moderators will take care of it.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 27
4/22/2011 2:53:26   
Ashari
Inconceivable!


@voidance: While it might be true that a persons English isn't perfect, there's no need to point it unless they are completely incoherent in the message they are trying to get across. Interrupting a thread just to point out a grammar mistake is quite frankly just spam -- it serves no purpose and doesn't further the discussion.

If the post is really hard to read or understand due to poor English, then yes you can ask them to clarify their point but no one should be jumping to insult another person just because English isn't their first language.

I notice it in-game too. All I can say is ignore it if it's just a one time thing and report them if they continue to harass you over it. Everyone deserves respect in-game regardless of the languages they speak.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 28
4/22/2011 3:05:54   
Drago9999
Member

The cyberterm for bullying is "Trolling". I see it all the time but I always remember this: "Bullies do not have friends, only people that fear them." So if a troll keeps annoying me, I just use the in-game report button so the joke is on him.

< Message edited by Drago9999 -- 4/22/2011 3:06:30 >
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 29
4/22/2011 3:38:12   
Soliqe
Member


quote:

With the language issue: I admit that I do speak English as my first language, and I speak several other languages poorly. That said, it saddens me when other players insult players who are unable to speak English fluently. However, I'm never sure how to deal with it, because I have to ask myself if I'm treating those who point out flaws in ESL speakers' speech differently vs. EFL speakers' speech (well, text, but you get what I'm saying). Is it ok to tell someone who speaks English as their first language that their English is not very good, but not someone who speaks English as a second language?

Unfortunately, with bullying the victim does need to make sure he or she has a running record for repeated harassment or even some kind of proof for mods to do much about bullying. I sympathize with victims of bullying, though, I get bullied and harassed as well, and there's a certain amount of that I've accepted as part of the job of being a moderator. All I can suggest victims do is to make complete reports to one of the ED in-game mods or to the Lawman, and to ignore bullies or avoid places where bullies tend to congregate. Yes, it would be better to say "potential bullies, stop bullying", and this in no way is blaming the victim- it's risk reduction, not prevention. And hopefully punishing the offenders will lead to less bullying if they know that there are consequences to their actions.


@Cinderella and everyone else

There is a difference between bullying, joking, and correcting grammar. If anything, foreign players should be happy to know that there is a magical thing such as Google Translate, works wonders. Punishment should NEVER be given out for grammatical spelling errors, however, a user steps over the line when they mock someone else, regardless of whether you speak english or not.

One thing I'd like to point out. There's a lot of hatred towards us American users who want to "help"(believe it or not there are ones who mean to be helpful) others understand, what their saying makes little to no sense. Some Americans may not know a player is foreign, so don't bite their heads off. This post shows a lot of favoritism towards others languages, and it makes American English speaking players look like crooks.

It's wrong to make fun of ANYONE's language, not just spanish, pinoy, turkish, or french. That means, English players shouldn't be derided for not knowing the other languages that one player knows. See where I'm getting at here?

Do unto others good things regardless of bullying. Ignore the bully remarks. (You actually don't have to reply to every critical post)
If you do decide to reply, think before you act. I've seen too many players mistake someone who's intentions are good ones, and then had them turned bad because someone took it the wrong way.

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AQW Epic  Post #: 30
4/22/2011 3:41:11   
Nehal007
Member

i wud only say juz ignore them
Post #: 31
4/22/2011 3:52:46   
xxmirxx
Member
 

quote:

If the post is really hard to read or understand due to poor English, then yes you can ask them to clarify their point but no one should be jumping to insult another person just because English isn't their first language.


like she said most of times you go do insult then correct. note americans not only english speaking people here. circle got realise AE games word wide. so there should have Translate page so people who speak different language can write there language.
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4/22/2011 4:11:34   
Soliqe
Member

quote:

like she said most of times you go do insult then correct. note americans not only english speaking people here. circle got realise AE games word wide. so there should have Translate page so people who speak different language can write there language.


AE isn't big enough to have specific language forum. Only huge MMOs do that sort of thing because they have hundreds of thousands of active forumers. While here, there are only hundreds of active forumers.

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AQW Epic  Post #: 33
4/22/2011 4:31:01   
voidance
Member

I like how Soliqe brought up the fact that there is such a thing as Google Translate. It takes two seconds to Copy N Paste your Foreign text and convert it into English. Another thing, Ashari I dont agree you should have to suger coat it, I cant stand having to decode certain peoples text because they are too lazy to use one of the many thousand free translater's on the internet, so therefore i tend to point out that their Grammar was unreadable, oh and its not spam if you have other stuff to say other then that. Meaning i tend to put a @ and tell them then post my OnTopic thoughts.
AQW Epic  Post #: 34
4/22/2011 6:03:56   
xxmirxx
Member
 

This isn't about me I said before. now we solve this problem. Please lock this up.
AQ Epic  Post #: 35
4/22/2011 8:31:29   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@Voidance Do you hear yourself? Its easy FOR YOU to say that but what if you where bullied at school or at home or bullied online by kids at school huh? That is called CYBER BULLYING! How can you just say grow up? Or its childish to let thingsbother you not everyone is like you dude. What if there was some kid who was bullied at home and school and people bullied him here to? And says he really doenst like it because it really botthers him and you just say grow up? What happened if he did something horrible to himself everyone was bullying him huh?
AQW Epic  Post #: 36
4/22/2011 8:52:25   
Donny The Ultimate
Member

@Angels Holocaust u get bullied for a reason angels alot of people say that u and buffy r the mosted hated players on the game but there r always reasons why u get bullied
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4/22/2011 9:15:01   
LambO
Member

@Donny. It's because there good, no other reason really, lol.
Ofcourse people say there rude & such most likely in-game, but you won't expect someone to be rude to you without getting it back.
I doubt Angels will get something rude said about her & reply all happy about. Someone was rude to me they would get it right back.

I'm not really sure how you get bullied over the internet, kinda sad really. Can't really take something to heart over the internet if you don't even know the person, I would understand if you knew the person in real life & they was bullying you..
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4/22/2011 9:34:44   
Mecha Mario
Mechanized Plumber


Deleted some posts, some of you need to stop trolling/flaming others.

xxmirxx requested a locked. Once a locked has been requested, no need to keep posting after that.
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