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4/22/2011 5:19:54   
PivotalDisorder
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+8 extra stats does NOT put us back to where we were.

single stat abusers are still effected by the changes and players with more balanced builds arent gonna see much difference
either, due to diminishing returns. what i feel they are trying to do is encourage people to increase their energy and/or health.
players still do too much damage in my opinion, i see bunker buster, plasma bolt, aux or gamma bot take more than 50% health
on a regular basis and then your playing defensive for most of the fight unless you get lucky [or die]. you can go to 94 health
now before your effected by agility. of course most players want their old stats and will spend the 8 extra points accordingly.

you want more balance, you want more creative builds, then why not use a more creative build and handle some extra losses
instead of trying to get ur OP builds back which give you 90%+ win rates.

all the judgements on the enhancements seem pretty void until AFTER the update. so far all we know is what titan tweeted and
a couple of comments in the 9 page topic. anyways, ill post my constructive criticism again for anyone thats interested.

Encumberance should also effect enhancements on items that are above your level.

8 enhancement slots
-4 lv = no effect
-3 lv = 2 enh slots
-2 lv = 4 enh slots
-1 lv = 6 enh slots
-0 lv = 8 enh slots

or alternatively, enhancements shouldnt work at all until your the same level as the item.

< Message edited by Jehannum -- 4/22/2011 5:22:05 >
Post #: 26
4/22/2011 5:27:13   
Luna_moonraider
Member

@ voidance

there will still be a gap because not every 28 is a varium player and not every 28 have rare and strong weps.
AQW Epic  Post #: 27
4/22/2011 5:31:33   
voidance
Member

Ok well you cant compare a Non-Varuim level 28 to a Varuim level 33. You have to compare Varuim to Varuim or Non-Varuim to Non-Varuim in order to say that the Enhancements gap is huge between levels. Otherwise your saying the Enhancements gap is huge between Varuim users and Non-Varuim users.


@Jehaanum
Thx for piggybacking my suggestion?
quote:

make it where lvl 26 can only do 2, 27 do 4, 28 do 6, 29, do 8, and 30 do 10. Ik this doesnt solve the overpowerness of a lvl 33 but it will help solve the dev's poor idea of widening a weapons lvl range.
Not that i care to have any credit but must you post the same thing i said in the same topic.

< Message edited by voidance -- 4/22/2011 5:34:16 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 28
4/22/2011 5:39:00   
Lord GaGa
Member

I agree with T.600
we need the AQW update team to do one update.
Cause let's be honest, they do a much better job.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 29
4/22/2011 5:59:55   
T.600
Member

^ :D
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 30
4/22/2011 6:27:15   
vinchuan
Member
 

 Credit enchantments should cost less
Post #: 31
4/22/2011 6:30:11   
goldslayer1
Member

@vin
they will cost less.
varium should cost less too.
AQW Epic  Post #: 32
4/22/2011 7:05:56   
8x
Member

Here is how all this could be fixed (in might also balance the game):
1. Don't add enhancment slots to guns and bazookas.
2. Remove enhancment slots from armors(and give refund), give +1 res to founders so they won't complain.
3. Remove enhancment slots on all primary weapons until there are only 3 left, (give refund for others).
4. Don't release any new weapons with more than 3 enhancment slots.

< Message edited by 8rlx0 -- 4/22/2011 7:08:34 >

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Epic  Post #: 33
4/22/2011 7:14:52   
goldslayer1
Member

@8x
that doesn't solve the problem the money was already spent
AQW Epic  Post #: 34
4/22/2011 7:18:02   
T.600
Member

There was no need to make auxillary and sidearm enhancements for Epicduel, it has money scam written all over it, if you want to make money then why don't you do it the proper way? -.-
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 35
4/22/2011 8:51:33   
RKC
Member

This is the scenario.

ED staff 1: Guys we don't have enough money.
ED staff 2: What should we do?
ED staff 1: Lets make adjustments to the game, something that looks good but actually makes it bad, makes the players buy more varium.
ED staff 2: Oh. I have an idea lets lower everything and add more expensive items and put enhancements to the aux and side arm. That will make them spend double for what they already paid for.
ED staff 1: Yeah. That will make the players think we did a good thing but actually makes them spend more money on varium and makes us rich.
ED staff 2: They won't know what hit them but encase they notice lets just butter them up with words they will always listen to everything we tell them. (SUCKERS)
ED staff 1: Ok lets do it!!! hooray more money for us and more suckers to play our sinking game. Its like hitting 2 birds with one stone.

They always have a money varium release. they make it a good thing by saying its like this and that and blah blah blah blah. but actually the bottom line is money burners.

Its ok to release things that involves varium and money but on every freaking release they make and the bad part its getting more and more expensive each time.

You guys have to open your eyes to the truth.
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 36
4/22/2011 9:07:46   
LambO
Member

I just want the admins to come and reply, would be funny to see how they will get out of this.

@Grun post, by our Logic, the staff doesn't need money... They WANT money. Big difference.
Some way or how they will try & find a way out of this, most likely being - Pay varium for enhancement & earn the enhancement master achievement or something, lol. It's really pathetic.

Everyone is on to you now admins.

LambO

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AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 37
4/22/2011 9:13:07   
King FrostLich
Member

Its not enhancements that bothers us. Its because weapons of non variums are outdated and add the fact that the game is expensive for variums. Served all of you right with your overpowered builds :P.
Epic  Post #: 38
4/22/2011 11:01:51   
XxEPiC Str3NGtHxX
Member

What I think should happen to stop bad updates is a bit of courage from the devs, even if a feature they are about to implement doesn't work or isn't balanced, they should put it in the game anyway so we can see and analyze the actual effect in the game, its all fine sitting here and saying that Sidearm and AUX enhancements will widen the gap between vars and non-vars (which they probably would) but lets not forget that in the real game things might work a little differently than in your mind, so you can never be 100% sure about the effects of anything until you've seen it yourself in game.

What they should do is release an update, then we play the game for a week and we get to say if the update goes or stays.
So even if we have an update that totally overpowers a certain build or class, next week we can all just say to the devs " Look here's what you've done wrong and this is how we'd change it...... "

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Epic  Post #: 39
4/22/2011 11:38:32   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

I like this update its gonna be awesome! Guys this game is NEVER gonna be balanced because the devs DONT care. This game is ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY they did this new update so people can hurry and rush buy varium(MONEY) and get even stronger and become a beast! But I also like how credit prices are gonna cost a lot lower eiethier 30 or 40% lower! So this update is great for non variums to! How can you even hate it guys? we can ALL BECOME BEAST NOW EVEN NON VARS LIKE ME YAY!!!!

@RCK I COULDNT AGREE MORE!! I mean really EVERY update is a new varium item to GET MONEY! People need to realize they DONT CARE they just want our money YOUR money in your pockets! Stop giving them what they want go on strike until they make everything not about money for crying out loud at least in AQW you can get a house without buying AC coins! Here you CANT even GET a a freakin basic fortune city APARTMENT!!! Or make your own FACTION! Which is like a group in AQW which is for FREE in AQW! I mean honestly dude I so totally agree people need to open there eyes and realize the truth behind the stupid updates its to make more money!

< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 4/22/2011 12:56:49 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 40
4/22/2011 12:11:23   
kingmark345
Member

@ RCK

You DO realize that this is a constructive criticism forum right?

@ LambO

Yes, tha admins should come and reply to these forum posts here...


Also, both the credit and the varium prices should be lowered AND there shoud be varium resale, also (I know this is off topic but...) doesn't anyone think the Marauder Bike should be worth more? It WAS the first hover bike (even though it doesn't hover) introduced to Epic Duel...
AQW Epic  Post #: 41
4/22/2011 15:56:44   
Vick Vega
Member

quote:

quote:

Grun Teufel

ED Bot

If you feel the game has a poor marketing strategy, then suggest one you feel is an improvement. From your logic, the devs need money. That would mean game is clearly not bringing in enough money, not that they are keeping all the money earned to line their pockets. That or it's an earnest attempt at making the players happy. Either way, if you have something other than just slandering the devs, something constructive that is, then please, discuss and bring forth your ideas.

This topic, however, is locked.


If I were the ED team I would be reprimanding Grun Teufel for even admitting openly to the forums that this was a "marketing strategy". I thought it was a "balance" update?

AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 42
4/22/2011 16:58:04   
The Game
Pegasus Overlord


 Please return to the topic at hand. Last I checked, this topic is not about taking jabs at the ED staff. If you have an issue with their decisions, there is a Gameplay Feedback Thread you guys can use, so it is not like this is censorship or anything. Further off-topic posts will be deleted without notice. fair warning.
AQ  Post #: 43
4/22/2011 17:01:53   
LambO
Member

Constructive criticism - It sucks.

@Syr, people make topics to dicuss what the admins are doing & they get deleted.
We don't want to give feedback we want to dicuss the problem with the fellow players of ED & let the ED team know.

LambO
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 44
4/22/2011 19:58:36   
sk1tz
Member
 

 They should make 5000 var package have the promo item and the 10000 var package have the promo item+fully enhanced. done
Post #: 45
4/22/2011 20:13:26   
wario the great
Member

gun and aux enhancements are just a bit too much i mean who whould wana spend like 2k var on 1 weps/armour/gun/aux and u also need the other equipment on average a normal high lvl wep cost 1k var and have like 4-5 slots which is about 2k+ var a piece of armour or a wep so 2k x 4 pieces of equipment = 8k var+....

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AQW Epic  Post #: 46
4/22/2011 20:33:31   
H4ll0w33n
Member

I believe they should make enhancements cost less than the actual weapon itself, like cap the enhancements to a total of 500 varium because thats a good amount for how much money on 1 weapon should be.

995+500 varium= 1495 varium
thats about $7.50 for one item.

Compared to the current:

995+1700= 2695 varium
which is about $13.50


Now i believe that their making too much money as is.

The bunny armor costs about 1k varium, and 400 is going to be sold with no problem:

400x1000=400, 000= $2000

NOW thats without enhanced, about 100 will enhance theirs fully with varium:

100x1250=125, 000=$625

So with one update and only 400 armors, they will have made $2625, this is obviously enough to run the 3 servers (doom is nearly never open) and support the bandwidth they need.

With gun and auxiliary enhancements they can support themselves very easily.

In this update they will have make a minimum of $2000 and thats kind of too much to charge on us especially since there arent even as much of us than on aqw.

With the other one they will make about 1/2 less money but they can still support the game and themselves for 1 week.

this is just my opinion :P

enhancements as is are way too over priced
Post #: 47
4/22/2011 22:19:00   
voidance
Member

Ah it wasnt as bad as I thought it was gonna be, but the Skill Diminishing thing upset me a bit.
AQW Epic  Post #: 48
4/23/2011 1:56:54   
Giras Wolfe
Member

My constructive criticism is nonvariums will leave immediately and never even glance back once they meet a fully upgraded varium player.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 49
4/23/2011 2:39:05   
Egoraptor
Member

SIMPLE ANSWER!! why not advertise epicduel like how they advertise AQ and AQW
Post #: 50
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