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5/5/2011 0:51:20   
Luna_moonraider
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varium players complaining again. they should be happy they have a robo in the first place. the robos are blockable so are the oped not really with max sa the robo is kinda useless. look at the non variums they dun really even have a robo to use and yet u variums are complaining.

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5/5/2011 0:53:04   
BlueKatz
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^ you know about BH 5 Focus build and Tank Mer 5 Focus build right?

With BH: lower block rate
With Mer: even Blocked they still can tank and wait to release another hit
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 77
5/5/2011 1:08:44   
RKC
Member

@Luna_moonraider

Do you think this only benefits varium players. Nope it will also help non-varium players.

I think the dev's should find a way to make robots useful without making the players resort to spamming all the points into defensive stats.
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 78
5/5/2011 2:01:02   
xxmirxx
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 luna RKC is clearly just try to make flame topics. He first start with founders and then he makes post wanting beta weps buff now this. He really is just joke and honestly . just keep eye on his next post I bet be another flame topic.
AQ Epic  Post #: 79
5/5/2011 2:18:16   
RKC
Member

@xxmirxx

Dude those threads I made (I admit I got carried away) was just something to shout to the dev's, We founders really did deserve something like the varium (Sorry for being a troll for not accepting it right away, Blame that on the Elite trauma I got a long time ago) and the beta's I was just stating something, you guys made it into a flame war.

This time you have to admit that the bots are getting OP and needs balancing, heck everything in this game needs balancing not just the robots. I just wanted to say we should start at the robots for now, and everybody is actually making a point except you, for some reason is always after me and trolling me instead of helping out in this thread.

So cork is dude!!! If I was really making a pointless thread the mods would have lock this by now.

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AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 80
5/5/2011 2:39:11   
xxmirxx
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 I don't want bots nerf cause infect mages. this are only thing we got running for use. they already nerf mages twice we can no longer do support buit or do good well even built. like I said all class have reason why they use high tech for example merc use it for bunker and being malf. for bounty they use it for there smoke and emp. for mage we use are tech shield to protect us against strenght merc that use engry weps as main and against bountys that use engry claws. that's why we use high tech all of us non varium players gotten use to it and found ways to beat them. Its time you evolved and change your strategys of battle or go buy varium or you for ever will be weak.
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He really is just joke and honestly

I am sorry for what I said to you.
AQ Epic  Post #: 81
5/5/2011 2:45:10   
BlueKatz
Member

Oddly i find Mage not as good as other classes with both. Tech is not mage's stat

So it's like OP class + OP gear = OP
UP class + OP gear =???
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 82
5/5/2011 2:45:45   
RKC
Member

Did I say nerf the bots. I said balance it out.

I rather get hit by an overly pump up merc with high str, low defense that can kill me in one berserk. Than a merc with a high defense low str who relies way to much on his bot.
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5/5/2011 2:50:35   
xxmirxx
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 no sorry my bad you never said nerf.
AQ Epic  Post #: 84
5/5/2011 4:52:48   
jegaggin
Member

speaking as an occasional user of tech builds i have to say that
1. Focus Mercs are good but not OP
2. you need luck
i if you are smoked and you have gamma bot you are really hoping for a huge amount of luck
ii if you are malfed your attacks are down graded by 5 damage points! maybe even more
3. Mercs need to abuse stats because we have no stat boosting skills which help defend us against energy and physical so we "tank"
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 85
5/5/2011 5:04:16   
BlueKatz
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You say like Mer is that weak....
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5/5/2011 5:06:15   
xxmirxx
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 I already said that about merc
AQ Epic  Post #: 87
5/5/2011 5:17:09   
jegaggin
Member

no its not weak granted we have our goods and bads. bads even a non var mage or bh can buff back their defences but non var and var mercs cant. However some of our skills like BB and SS need tech which can be malfed by TM (making our focus builds much less effective) and bhs can either emp or smokescreen (which will make our focus builds miss alot of the time). Anyway my point is the merc is no longer the most powerful tanker the most powerful tanker is the BH he can hit as hard as he wants and he is almost certain to hit against mercs and mages. Don't keep on asking for nerfs on mercs.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 88
5/5/2011 5:21:23   
BlueKatz
Member

Nerfing robot is not just about mer, it's also about BH and Mage (yehh). A BH > Mer, but a 5 Focus BH > 5 Focus Mer or not?

And Mer defense it's not that bad actually
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 89
5/5/2011 6:24:57   
jegaggin
Member

ur forgetting bh + smokescreen = weakened defences of mercs like 8-10 or 13-16 (depending on how high level and tech). AND then blocking chance is basically 55% normally. defense matrix can at lvl 1 give 15 -23 DEFENSE points. Us mercs need 10 points to get 13 defence. while bhs have their energy shield which can go very high with support and their reflex boost which also is upped by support. ( ive seen people with 50 or 60 dex boost)!
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 90
5/5/2011 6:28:04   
BlueKatz
Member

well BH is OP, I think this thread is about nerfing Robot in general, which effect all classes
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5/5/2011 8:47:13   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

Every single one you believe if "I cant beat it! It has to go!" Honeslty whenever a Oped build comes that you cant beat you want to put huge stat requirements and ruined the game and get rid of a OPed build honestly stop the nerfing already the robots been nerfed TWICE once by the removal of 7x focus and second by the removal of Focus 5 bonus dmg. Just stop it. Robots no longer have any bonus damage and they only improve with tech and do 6x focus damage. If you want protection use your sheilds. Stop whinning already. Also did I forget to say they have a 4 turn cooldown,and you people say they need another nerf? Whatever.

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Robots should be nerfed cuz its generic,overused and too effective
So if something is overused and effective it must be nerfed? That is selfish logic.

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< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 5/6/2011 8:11:22 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 92
5/5/2011 9:29:36   
PivotalDisorder
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robot hits A LOT more than it is blocked, I only have 66 dex.

for all the people sayin its not OP, why dont you unequip it, and then see what your win % drops to :)

@xxmirvxx: they way your going, their isnt gonna be anyone left on the forum who doesnt have you on ignore..........
Post #: 93
5/5/2011 9:42:04   
Polandor
Member

Robot damage should lowered a little so it match primary weapon damage.

Right now even malfed, a merc with tank tech build still hit well over 50 (before def or res).

using shield vs robot is not a good thing, because you need 2 shields, and they usually also have at least one other strong attack (aux, bunker...)
Post #: 94
5/5/2011 10:12:41   
RKC
Member

The way this is going.

You cannot be an offensive players without sacrificing defense and the other way around.

Robots are defying this because when you use a robot build you can also be a defensive at same time an offensive.

< Message edited by RKC -- 5/5/2011 10:55:16 >
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 95
5/5/2011 10:42:37   
BlueKatz
Member

quote:

So if something is overused and effective it must be nerfed? That is selfish logic.

Something is not used it SHOULD"T BE USED

Genius :)
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 96
5/5/2011 11:21:06   
Sageofpeace
Member

is funny that people keep asking to nerf stuff them ask for strong weapon them nerf again and them again strong weapons. it just sad that in 2 year the game still hasn't had the new battle mode or a balance fight i 2v2. because most of the player don't even know the basic of this game which doesn't requiered a lot strategy as is used to in the early beta they keep asking as for nerf but it always going to be like that because they don't know how to play and as far as non varuim been i won't say much since player are paying a lot money so if the devs make varuim weaker against non varuim they are going to look bad but i think at least they should make some cool weapon and looks for them.
Post #: 97
5/5/2011 11:26:30   
5rr5
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 What do you mean with robot spamming?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 98
5/5/2011 11:32:47   
XxEPiC Str3NGtHxX
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The problem is the fact that bots damage improves with tech which is a defensive stat, when a defensive stat boosts damage as well, that creates imbalance, how the hell am I supposed to play against someone who has 40 resistance and can hit waaay harder than me even after I use field commander. I know they are blockable but it doesn't matter, because the damage they deal. and even if I block one, i deal 3 damage to the owner's health because of the tech.

Not to mention the endless combinations you can get from having a high technology especially tech mages.
Malf,Bot,AUX,Plasma
No one could stand after this combo, and not to mention how hard the Tm will be to kill because of high defense.

If you think bot spamming isn't overpowered show me a reasonable argument to prove otherwise, and something other than the "its blockable"garbage.
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5/5/2011 11:35:08   
Sageofpeace
Member

THE PROBLEM IS THAT SINCE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY THEY WANTED NERF WHICH IS STUPID SINCE IT ALL COME OUT THE SAME A THE END


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