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5/13/2011 15:53:00   
IsaiahtheMage
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@Mirxx 1. I know what its like to be a Merc I am a level 31 Merc with over 3000 battles. Wrong. 2. I am a Mage. So again wrong. No its mages themselves. Now you say if I where smart I use high tech and dex build and energy armor. First of all my mage is a level 24 but I messed up the entire Mage build so I am starting off with a new Mage that will have the perfect build. Its level 10 once it hits the high levels I will prove myself why their Uped. Actually I already proved.
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5/13/2011 16:08:16   
Ashari
Inconceivable!
quote:

ORIGINAL: sk1tz

speaking as a +5focus merc with a very good build. the only class that i have trouble with is support mage or bot mage. I dont think mages are uped at all and to be honest if mages get a buff ill change to mage. currently the game is actually very balanced except i reckon stat diminish should start a little earlier on the strength stat. The only people saying mages are UPed are the mages with rubbish builds and havent learnt you gotta play defensive first and slowly wittle down your opponent.

The problem with the defensive style of play that mages have to employ to win is that it counters the whole objective of EpicDuel. To be competitive, it's not about winning, it's about winning quickly.

Every competitive element in ED is based upon getting the most wins in the shortest amount of time. Wiseman said it perfectly in his post, Overpowered and Balanced so I'll just link it instead of repeating it all again. Back to the point -- even though mages can sustain 90-95% win ratios, they are still only getting around 40 wins an hour because of their slow battles. If you compare that to other classes than can get a 90% win ration and get 50 or 60 wins an hour, then you can see mages are underpowered in that respect.

I think the main problem is that mages have only a single % based attack, Bludgeon, which doesn't complement the class much when it forces you to do physical damage.
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5/13/2011 16:21:59   
xxmirxx
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 being lvl 24 mage isn't very experience. btw if I combined both merc just alone I would have 8865 wins. on one merc I have 2407 wins in 2vs2 and in 1vs1 I have 2920 wins. Thats just one merc and my other merc has 1942 wins in 1vs1 and in 2vs2 I have 1426 wins so trust me I have alot experience in this game.
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5/13/2011 16:39:13   
5rr5
Banned


 What's the point with this thread because I already posted everything in the suggestion thread for a long time ago and they didn't do something, why would they do it just because we're talking about it again?
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5/13/2011 16:52:01   
Polandor
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That exactly why it useless to post in suggestion, change happen because of the discussion here.
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5/13/2011 17:21:25   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@Mirx I dont need to have tons of experience as a mage to know simple logic. Compare the skills and their requirements to the other classes skills. There is clearly no balance whatsoever.
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5/13/2011 18:23:37   
xxmirxx
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 actually you do its not so simple as you put it you need to make builts that can count Oped builts. btw its your loss that gains experience.
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5/13/2011 18:34:45   
goldslayer1
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quote:

But, Cheap Shot is pretty much completely useless. It gets blocked very often (for some reason), and ignores a small amount of defence without high investment.

u have no idea how useful cheapshot is.

@Isiah
str mercs are not OP. play as a certain class/build before u blab ur mouth.
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5/13/2011 18:37:27   
king julian
Member

assimilation is rely good sure it restricted to just 10 but it cost no energy and u get energy back. The rest i can agree with
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5/13/2011 19:01:02   
DeathGuard
Member

Guys, mages needs a physical staff, guns that matches most of their kind of builds, no skill req at least 3 of them . I win so slowly that most of my fights last 43 rounds each one e.e.
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5/13/2011 19:04:34   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 @Ashri
quote:

40 wins an hour because of their slow battles

its actually 30 to 35 perhour and actually winning percent for varium player is 90 to 96.
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5/13/2011 19:05:55   
goldslayer1
Member

@mir
i gotten 98% with mage.
mage % can be higher. certainly over 90% if ur skilled with it.

< Message edited by goldslayer1 -- 5/13/2011 19:06:25 >
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5/13/2011 19:09:07   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 above thanks
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5/13/2011 19:09:24   
Xendran
Member

xxmirxx, mages are mathematically the weakest class. Unless you can bring numbers *proven by math*, there really is no reason to argue.
That being said, i agree with all the points in the OP.

FYI Mercs are the strongest class and theres one specific build that people should be using, but arent, to get around a 98-100% win ratio as mercs.
No, i'm not going to tell you the build, i want to see if you guys figure it out.
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5/13/2011 19:16:10   
xxmirxx
Member
 
quote:

xxmirxx, mages are mathematically the weakest class. Unless you can bring numbers *proven by math*, there really is no reason to argue. That being said, i agree with all the points in the OP. FYI Mercs are the strongest class and theres one specific build that people should be using, but arent, to get around a 98-100% win ratio as mercs. No, i'm not going to tell you the build, i want to see if you guys figure it out.


LOL merc really and mages like goldslayer said they hit above 90 percent. If you do math take look at daily 1vs1 for non varium mage they get 75 to 80 percent and that's daily. btw this come from player that's more experience on daily 1vs1 then you.
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