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5/17/2011 17:54:28   
xxmirxx
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I don't want to start, but I feel no way in being grateful for non-varium players being here. I rather pity them for not being able to buy varium & to have the power the varium players have. Non-varium players come & go same with varium players. It's the circle in this game. There will always be non-varium players here, so I really don't need to be grateful for a free player playing a game. I'm grateful for myself & every other paying customer who support ED, to keep this game alive. Without us this game would be history.


I feel nothing will get though to you or angels. your both strong head people. I also feel sad you both look at non variums as unsupporter but sad truth were all non variums at one time.
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5/17/2011 17:57:36   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@LambO and Angels Holocaust She and you said we non varuims are useless and cause lag. That isnt the truth its trying to insult and put down other users because they dont want to spend money on the game or cant afford it that is downright trolling no matter what the heck you both say. Saying no one cares about us or we dont matter is a direct attempt to insult another user regardless of your so called "truth" angels and you deserve to be singled out. You want to pity us and put us down because some of us cant afford varuim wow really? I never knew anyone can say something like that and sink that low. Like Fay Bee said if people can be this selfish and cruel to others over a game and put them down because they dont make as much moeny as you,it just makes you think about how sad they be in real life. Its just a shame.

@Mirx That is so true we are eitheir still or always non varuims so basically they look down on something they use to be or look down on other players(Us and others) as if they dont matter thats just sad.

< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 5/17/2011 18:00:54 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 77
5/17/2011 18:00:13   
LambO
Member

@Mirvxx. Likewise mirxx, likewise. You do support this game, so there's no need to feel sad.
You support this game by playing it, that's it.
Varium players support this game in everyway. Cause we pay for this game & we keep on supporting.

About the 'We was all non-variums at one time.'
Well, I doubt anyone would pay before they try the game, would be pretty dumb, lol.



< Message edited by LambO -- 5/17/2011 18:02:19 >
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5/17/2011 18:00:25   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

Thank you its down right cruel. I dont understand how people find this good for non varuims to improve their skills they cant do crap in juggernaut mode they cant improve their skills they are completely outclassed and are getting their win records destroyed

it isn't cruel, its part of life. every lvl 25, 26, 27 and now 28 had to fight someone higher lvl than them and they lost.
its part of the lvling up process. it happened in 1 vs 1, in 2 vs 2, and now it will happen in 2 vs 1. so stop making a big deal out of it saying its cruel because its the same in every mode. in this one however they stand a better chance because its 2 vs 2. and if they were smart like the lvl 33 they would have better gear, better builds and better strategies.

this was asked for a long time and it finally came, now thats its here dont QQ about it instead of flaming or trolling someone else's opinion use ur brain (if any) and tell UR opinion on how to solve some of the issues.

and i agree with angels on another thing, it should stay varium only.
why? simply because when non variums come the queues will take alot longer because non varium are in it aswell. so instead of waiting a minute for 1 match we're gonna have to wait 3-4 minutes because the non varium with decent builds out number the varium population 4/1

so it should stay by gold skull card only.
thats my opinion, and when release comes and u see the queues being hard to get into. ur gonna come back here and post ur regrets about saying it should also be varium.
AQW Epic  Post #: 79
5/17/2011 18:02:29   
Zean Zapple
Member

quote:

Success is measured on different levels, as in life. So if you want something perfect then this is not for you. If you are prepared to wait until game is settled then ok. This 2v1 is still at a testing stage. LOADS asked for it. Now it is here. I admit I too thought it was going to be against a boss but we asked and have been given.

Now flame or troll me if you like. Most do.
But change me into one. Never.


My thoughts exactly!


~Zean
Epic  Post #: 80
5/17/2011 18:03:10   
LambO
Member

@Isiah. Don't you DARE post stuff about me what I haven't said. So you'd better reframe from posting **** I haven't said. Don't piss me off.
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5/17/2011 18:11:10   
xxmirxx
Member
 

IsaiahtheMage lets just face it Lambo and angels are racist towards us. btw racism doesn't apply by skin color it can be against Way you look or it can be against how much money you make.
AQ Epic  Post #: 82
5/17/2011 18:12:01   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@GoldSlayer


quote:

it isn't cruel, its part of life. every lvl 25, 26, 27 and now 28 had to fight someone higher lvl than them and they lost.
its part of the lvling up process. it happened in 1 vs 1, in 2 vs 2, and now it will happen in 2 vs 1. so stop making a big deal out of it saying its cruel because its the same in every mode. in this one however they stand a better chance because its 2 vs 2. and if they were smart like the lvl 33 they would have better gear, better builds and better strategies.


That is cruel for a level 26 and another 26 non varuim to be paired against a level 33 their destroying their win records they at least deserve a chance. No stay varuim ok so you believe its fair that non varuims high levels cant get into a new battle mode and low level non varuims must have no choice to get into and get masscred? Explain that. They cant! They are newbies to the game its probably their first time playing! You cant call them not smart becuase no one ever helped them out with their builds and because their newbs to the game! I am so sick and fed up of epic duels community. I am seriously going to start blocking people and ignoring more often I am sick of seeing selfish and cruel comments.

quote:

this was asked for a long time and it finally came, now thats its here dont QQ about it instead of flaming or trolling someone else's opinion use ur brain (if any) and tell UR opinion on how to solve some of the issues.


Now your just flaming me. If I didnt have any brain I wouldnt be able to reach level 31. So please you dont know me so dont accuse me of having no brain and no I dont flame or troll someone elses opinion if I disagree I simply state why.

quote:

so it should stay by gold skull card only.
thats my opinion, and when release comes and u see the queues being hard to get into. ur gonna come back here and post ur regrets about saying it should also be varium


No I wont. It will only be hard to get into because the poor low level non varuims will know they will get pwned. I am not gonna regret it at all.

EDIT: LambO No you didnt say it but you agreed with Angels therefore you where thinking about it.

@Mirx I agree there just being prejudice and using discrimination because we dont look all beast like them and because we arent varuim like them. I must admit I bought 10 dollars worth of varuim but honestly that doesnt make me varuim I used it for a helm,robot and used to enhance both of my non varuim weps and my others are still not enhanced. So basically the only varuim thing I have is a stupid helm which no way makes me varuim.

< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 5/17/2011 18:16:30 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 83
5/17/2011 18:12:54   
Mr. Black OP
Member

@mir
prejudice u mean prejudice not racist, racism only applies to being prejudice to a person's race, just like sexism is being prejudice to a person's sex, and ageism to age

< Message edited by zman 2 -- 5/17/2011 18:13:11 >
Epic  Post #: 84
5/17/2011 18:19:47   
LambO
Member

@xxmirxx. It's really a waste of time with you. Racism.. lol. You're funny.

@Isaiah. I really don't care if I was thinking it. I did NOT say it so you better not next time imply I did.
'Useless & non-varium cause lag' I never even seen this post, so can you post it for me?
^This is what you've said that me & Angels have said...

LambO
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5/17/2011 18:20:37   
xxmirxx
Member
 

quote:

prejudice u mean prejudice not racist, racism only applies to being prejudice to a person's race, just like sexism is being prejudice to a person's sex, and ageism to age

actually that falls in same line as racism
quote:

A prejudiceis a prejudgment, an assumption made about someone or something before having adequate knowledge to be able to do so with guaranteed accuracy. The word prejudiceis most commonly used to refer to preconceived judgments toward a people or a person because of race, social class, gender, ethnicity, homelessness, age, disability, obesity, religion, sexual orientation, or other personal characteristics. It also means beliefs without knowledge of the facts[1]and may include "any unreasonable attitude that is unusually resistant to rational influence.

And were does race belong to
quote:

Racial discrimination often coincides with racist mindsets, whereby the individuals and ideologies of one group come to perceive the members of their outgroup as both racia
AQ Epic  Post #: 86
5/17/2011 18:23:42   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

btw racism doesn't apply by skin color it can be against Way you look or it can be against how much money you make.

if its by the way u look, how much money u make, and religion then that would be prejudice not racist.

@isaia
1) if them players saved their credits they would be able to afford lvl 28 armors, weps like caden's wrath and mjonir, good guns like desert blaster, and a good aux around that lvl. idk if u noticed but a lvl 24 can have about 54 total stat modifiers and about 74 if enhanced.
now if the 2 lvl 24s would have that much stats with gear and builds, the average win % for the lvl 33 would be about 70-80%

low lvls vs higher lvls happens all the time. idc if u agree or not, but every time i read ur posts its like u never see both sides of the argument u just stick to one side and thats all u agree with.

its like saying sports team A is gonna beat sports team B when statistically sports team B averages better plays than sports Team A and then ur blinded by that (this is an example)

2) dude im not flaming im trying to make u under stand that MANY people including myself (and a load of non variums) asked for 2 vs 1.
u ungrateful non variums come complain sayings its unfair about the skull card and this and that. if u could wait freaking a year and a half for this mode THEN IM SURE U CAN WAIT ANOTHER FREAKING WEEK.

3)
quote:

If I didnt have any brain I wouldnt be able to reach level 31

u can get to lvl 33 by just loosing = no brains required.

4) just like lvl 27-28 get pwned in 2 vs 2 they know they have no chance. so what did the smart ones do?
they made builds that work with TEAM WORK with their partners so they could defeat the enemy.

and if u did have brains then u would be so ignorant to at least see both sides for what they really are
AQW Epic  Post #: 87
5/17/2011 18:24:10   
Mr. Black OP
Member

@mir
oh i see u were referring to non varium and varium as different races
Epic  Post #: 88
5/17/2011 18:36:29   
xxmirxx
Member
 

Yes thats what I am doing but rules still apply.
quote:

if its by the way u look, how much money u make, and religion then that would be prejudice not racist.


actually it does relate to racism. cause prejudice falls in line of your racism. cause you prejudge person without know them and usually falls color of skin.
AQ Epic  Post #: 89
5/17/2011 18:42:16   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@GoldSlayer
quote:

) if them players saved their credits they would be able to afford lvl 28 armors, weps like caden's wrath and mjonir, good guns like desert blaster, and a good aux around that lvl. idk if u noticed but a lvl 24 can have about 54 total stat modifiers and about 74 if enhanced.
now if the 2 lvl 24s would have that much stats with gear and builds, the average win % for the lvl 33 would be about 70-80%



You completely ignored my post they dont know about conserving they only know the stronger I get the more weapons I must use some of them even sacrifice this for this and think its good when its bad. Where did you get this silly notion that a level 24 non varuim can have plus 74 stat modifiers?! Even they could no way in the world do they have enough credits to afford it all. Maybe a level 33 non varuim but a level 33 fully equiped varuim and fully enhance is a no.

quote:

low lvls vs higher lvls happens all the time. idc if u agree or not, but every time i read ur posts its like u never see both sides of the argument u just stick to one side and thats all u agree with.

its like saying sports team A is gonna beat sports team B when statistically sports team B averages better plays than sports Team A and then ur blinded by that (this is an example)


Because people on the other side never post valid points. Low levels vs Higher levels shouldnt happen all the time that is not balanced.

quote:

2) dude im not flaming im trying to make u under stand that MANY people including myself (and a load of non variums) asked for 2 vs 1.
u ungrateful non variums come complain sayings its unfair about the skull card and this and that. if u could wait freaking a year and a half for this mode THEN IM SURE U CAN WAIT ANOTHER FREAKING WEEK.



Ok let me lay down the facts. Not all of us been here for a year and a half I only been here since september of last year so I am a Gamma Player not Beta or Alpha. Ungrateful? We arent ungrateful where sick of being left out. Maybe you should notice that.

quote:

can get to lvl 33 by just loosing = no brains required.



Let me reprase that if I didnt have a brain I wouldnt be able to get over 1500 wins with only a mere less then 600 loses.

quote:

just like lvl 27-28 get pwned in 2 vs 2 they know they have no chance. so what did the smart ones do?
they made builds that work with TEAM WORK with their partners so they could defeat the enemy.

and if u did have brains then u would be so ignorant to at least see both sides for what they really are


You know some of them do that. But they cant use teamwork when they get noob partners who ignore everyword you say so dont accuse them of not being smart its not their fault they got a noob. I do see what both sides are. Maybe you dont I guess. To bad.

< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 5/17/2011 18:44:27 >
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5/17/2011 19:03:47   
goldslayer1
Member

@isaia
right now i would just like to slap u with the back of my hand.

1)
Mjolnir 25 total + 6 slots
Desert Blaster 11 +4 slots
VoltZooka 7 total +4 slots
Power Armor EM 11 stats +5 slots
thats a total of 54 stats and 73 if they had credits to enhance.
now lets add the prices for items 37435 credits
and 120k on enhancement if its credits

now for tech mage.
Seraph armor EM 11 stats +5 slots
Caden's Wrath 24 stats +7 slots
Desert Blaster 11 stats +4 slots
VoltZooka 7 stats +4 slots
thats also 54 stats and 73 with enhancements.
43k on items
and 150k on credit enhancements.

for BH
http://epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Predator_Armor_E_M_(Level_28) 11 stats +5 slots
http://epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Desert_Blaster 11 stats +4 slots
http://epicduelwiki.com/index.php/Voltzooka 7 stats +4 slots
and couldn't fine any good claws that can be compared to caden's wrath and mjonir.

35225 for gun, aux, and armor. then add the claws.
and 70k for the credit enhancements on the armor, gun and aux.

now i thought u said u had a bunch of non varium accounts. i expected someone who criticizes others alot to know this.
its possible for a lvl 8 to have a total of 89-90 stat modifiers so its possible for a lvl 24-25 to have 54 stat mods

quote:

Because people on the other side never post valid points. Low levels vs Higher levels shouldnt happen all the time that is not balanced.

2) thats why if ur lvl 33 u always fight alot of lvl 33s and then some low lvls in 1 vs 1 and in 2 vs 2 altho 2 vs 2 has 3 times the chances of getting a low lvl.
quote:

Ungrateful? We arent ungrateful where sick of being left out. Maybe you should notice that

the mode is being offered for f2p
1 week late. what is the big deal about that?
why do u care so much?

quote:

You know some of them do that. But they cant use teamwork when they get noob partners who ignore everyword you say so dont accuse them of not being smart its not their fault they got a noob. I do see what both sides are. Maybe you dont I guess. To bad.

actually i do see both sides thats why i said if there was a map where newbies can learn how to play the game better then it would help them. and i also said that if u raised the credit prices for people below lvl 20 by 10 times (meaning 12 credits against someone ur lvl would be 120 for anyone below lvl 20) so that they could afford better gear on their higher lvls since they have a tough journey ahead.
AQW Epic  Post #: 91
5/17/2011 19:07:09   
LambO
Member

This topic just doesn't make any sense anymore.
It was about titan being a genius, now it's about players being racist, lol.

Cinderella, I hope you've send an apology to Angels. I just can't believe how you singled her out infront of everyone.
It was uncalled for. A PM sent about her actions to her would of been better.
I know you said same goes for the rest of you, but you singled out 1 person which was unneeded. This should of implied to everyone.

< Message edited by LambO -- 5/17/2011 19:10:04 >
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5/17/2011 19:10:10   
Sageofpeace
Member

@Lambo don't blame on Cindy she is just doing her job so let her go this time
Post #: 93
5/17/2011 19:11:55   
Angels Holocaust
Member

I don't see why I'm the villain here. Everybody is trolling me and nothings being done about it. Now that's discrimination.
Post #: 94
5/17/2011 19:12:14   
Mr. Black OP
Member

@gold
dang i ddnt even know it was possible for a person to afford all that b4 lv 33 without buying anything form lv 1
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5/17/2011 19:12:26   
xxmirxx
Member
 

above cindy doesn't need apology to Angels. She was right and there only 3 post about racism and there only clarify what I ment.
AQ Epic  Post #: 96
5/17/2011 19:12:41   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@LambO Angels clearly trolled my low level acount and the other players with me in 2 vs 1 by saying "dam urself for being weak" and many other remarks. She also flamed every non varuim and called them useless because they cant afford varuim or dotn want to buy it. A person like that doesnt deserve a apology.

@SageofPeace and Yes a wonderful job when it comes to stopping flaming and trolling.

@Goldslayer Like I said a non varuim level 24 cant afford it even if they could get it use logic. A level 8 cant get 89-90 stat modifiers I am being serious so please dont use sarcasm.

< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 5/17/2011 19:14:25 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 97
5/17/2011 19:15:34   
Sageofpeace
Member

@Angel I think you should express your opinion a little more like Buffy. A summer or at least make easier sarcasm because people are idiots sometime
Post #: 98
5/17/2011 19:17:58   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

dang i ddnt even know it was possible for a person to afford all that b4 lv 33 without buying anything form lv 1

its possible. ill im still playing on my alt only buying smart gear. and saving as much as i can to see how much u can get by lvl 24 while still staying competitive.

@isaia
im about to school u again boy.
AQW Epic  Post #: 99
5/17/2011 19:21:44   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@GoldSlayer Then school me! Bring it prove me wrong!

@SageofPeace Angels is not being sarcastic. She is clearly serious on everything she is saying. She even proved it in my battle with her when I said "Why do you respect a player like that she thinks us non varuims as useless and cause lag" and she said "exactly" and she then said "dam urself for being to weak" she already proved she was serious also if she was being sarcastic she wouldnt have been warned by a mode and continue to say the same stuff or even reinforce it even more.

< Message edited by IsaiahtheMage -- 5/17/2011 19:25:20 >
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