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5/19/2011 14:31:00   
Angels Holocaust
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I don't know about you guys but are you all experiencing crits and deflections like crazy today?
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5/19/2011 14:32:42   
Mr. Black OP
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umm kinda ive been critted 3 times and been deflected 2 times... in the same match
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5/19/2011 14:35:36   
Cookielord12
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hell yeah. situation. juggernaut battle me level 22 and level 25 vs sup mage level 33. lucky us we double bunker crit the mage and got him down to 50 hp he decided to go for one of us and we spammed unblockables. he deflected 2 times, killed my partner. my bunker cooled down and got him down to 5 hp. he hit me to 20hp. i knew he had his massive aux next so i had no choice but to gun (because it was physical and mage was weakest in physical) he deflected again to 4 damage and he killed me. i felt robbed of a great victory

< Message edited by Cookielord12 -- 5/19/2011 14:36:10 >
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5/19/2011 14:37:19   
SCORPIOZZz
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 ^ mmm u call doing 100000 criticals vs 2-3 deflections a great victory ? lool

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5/19/2011 14:38:05   
ajs777
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eh it happens... its neccessary with the balance issues otherwise battles would never end, everyone is tanked cant go through a battle hitting 8 the whole time

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5/19/2011 14:41:06   
Mr. Black OP
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i think making crit minimum 1% and maximum 10% would help solve the problem
aslo all moves with a chance to crit... the crit % should be reduced 5%
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5/19/2011 14:44:04   
ajs777
Member

so that would completely ruin artillery strike and bunker buster along with the other crit chance skills, i admit support can be a bit annoying but its seriously just chance
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5/19/2011 14:49:56   
SCORPIOZZz
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 @ above the above :
oh and how the h*ll are we supposed to kill those 5 focus massive tech abuserZZZ ?
criticals were made for a reason witch is encountering tank just like blocks were made to encouter str or str will be the dominating thing above all ( witch it really is now in a 9/10 scale) and the reason of deflection was to encounter guns ( str ) and (auxiliaries )

< Message edited by SCORPIOZZz -- 5/19/2011 14:52:53 >
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5/19/2011 14:50:45   
MrBones
Member

The big problem is that support is supposed to determine who starts.

How come strenght builts (bounty, mercs) with almost no support can ever start ??

It's not support the problem but the 'luck' factor . .

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5/19/2011 14:50:59   
ajs777
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well now that they fixed focus its only good for bots, which are blockable so... dex ? :P
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5/19/2011 14:52:44   
Mr. Black OP
Member

@scorp
so u depend on crits... not the best idea
and artillery keep at 10%
but bunker 25% added to how it already ignores def, and its a tier 2 skill... i think it could live with 20%...


< Message edited by zman 2 -- 5/19/2011 14:54:47 >
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5/19/2011 14:54:48   
The Shadow Dragon
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@Ajs, Dex is pretty good for bounties, Merc's....Not so much, no skill improves with dex D:, If a skill would improve with dex, i would've beaten Slayer by now ._.
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5/19/2011 14:55:03   
ajs777
Member

nah i dont depend on crits, actually i have a build for bunker but rarely use it, bunker is like the only thing that gives low lvl mercs a chance, and frankly it rarely crits for me besides thats a tech skill anyway we are talking about support here

@shadow lemme see your char page, slayer isnt to hard, i can help you with that ;) use PM dun wanna get the off topic warning twice this week -_-
oh and as for the dex, i was sayin thats a good defense for 5 focus mercs

< Message edited by ajs777 -- 5/19/2011 15:00:50 >
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5/19/2011 15:01:29   
SCORPIOZZz
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 @ zman :O im not a support merc and i only depend on not getting blockd or critted i depend on a fair game without : deflctions nor crits nor blocks
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5/19/2011 15:03:40   
ajs777
Member

deflections and crits are a necessary part of the game, blocks too but i think for skills such as zerker and DS that not EVERY hit should be blocked, cuz then if the bount does a the strike that hits twice it throws a twist into str bount builds and such each individual hit should be its own entity so like when zerker crits instead of all the hits landing and being this devastating blow each hit itself is affected so there is still a rare chance that all three hits could crit


< Message edited by ajs777 -- 5/19/2011 15:07:27 >
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5/19/2011 15:03:44   
Mr. Black OP
Member

@scorp
ya my point is with less crits the luck factor will play a smaller role

< Message edited by zman 2 -- 5/19/2011 15:04:00 >
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5/19/2011 15:09:47   
5rr5
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 No ppl always crit on me many times, that's nothing new and good morning if u noticed it now lol.
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5/19/2011 15:27:43   
TurkishIncubus
Member

@Dbag

Support has less effect on starting advantage , if i remember right its like every 8 support points increase starting %1

On Topic :

I got 34 support so i will not complain about crits and deflects but i only want to say when my oponents do +2 crits i find this game ridiculus.

< Message edited by TurkishIncubus -- 5/20/2011 3:55:10 >

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5/19/2011 16:59:40   
ajs777
Member

@above yea some battles can be weird that way, i dont think crits and deflected should be nerfed yea sometimes it can seem cheap, but hey thats what makes this game somewhat interesting... i think its funny someone started a thread on this....
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5/19/2011 20:30:54   
King FrostLich
Member

You do know you murdered my alt by 3 crits in a row in juggernaut match.
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5/19/2011 20:35:55   
DeathGuard
Member

A lvl 27 with 19 support deflected my aux O.o, dam game -_-'
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5/19/2011 23:46:23   
ajs777
Member

hey ive had this guy that was smoked to 0 def before agility was introduced and blocked me... so i dont wanna hear it lol
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5/20/2011 0:16:57   
SummonerBrandon
Member

It is all luck. Besides, the game might have sympathy for someone who is battling someone who is 3-5 levels lower and give them the first strike.
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5/20/2011 0:31:00   
jegaggin
Member

no for some reason (im a support merc) ive been not starting first and ppl have been criting me -.-
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5/20/2011 0:33:13   
x666satan666x
Member

i used a 40 support build can did an insane amount of crits. it was odd
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