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ORIGINAL: One Winged Angel1357

I am sorry LB but i will have to respectful disagree with you on the greed note and here is why, a handful of players paying to always have thier armor be one step ahead of the rest of the community would create a founder varium rift in which the founders are always on top. Said rift is, if i understand what i have read correctly, the devs are trying to prevent. This is why i am pushing my skin idea so we still see the beauty of founder armor, which are all pretty in agreement that founder looks best, and we avoid the rift which in the long run will lose ED and thus AE money. I dont mean any disrespect to you LB i just that the buff solution may not be the best for the future of ED.

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Why we want it to be at par with others ? Coz we deserve that for a reason. Coz that is our Pride.

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Rare Item

This item was introduced during a special in-game event or offer and is no longer available.

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1 ~ December 09, 2009 ~Varium, Founder, Achievements, and Rewards!

2 ~ January 06, 2010 ~ Founder Armor - Stacking AE Upgrade Cards!

3 ~ January 18, 2010 ~ The Founder upgrade period Finishes

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-Founder status will expire!
-Founder Duel Master Armor will go RARE!
-After the Founder status expires and we can no longer offer the Founder Duel Master Armor, our new promotional items for the Medium and large Varium packages will be new Beta Weapons! Players that have already upgraded to Founder will receive these RARE items for Free on Monday!.

4 ~ February 19, 2010 ~ Elites lose their unlimited varium

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Notice Regarding Elites:

I am sad to announce that due to new game mechanics involving consumable varium items, we can no longer offer unlimited Varium to Elites. This privilege, although generous, prevented us from developing new features that would make Elites infinitely powerful, such as boosters, consumable buffs, Varium to credit conversion, and item enhancements. However, we still want to reward Elites for their crucial early support of the game by granting them 20,000 Varium + they will be the first to receive the Hoverbike in the next update for free. We understand if you feel slighted, this was not a decision we made lightly, but it is in the best interest of the game and a matter of fairness to the community at large to discontinue the unlimited Varium offer. It simply became a nearly impossible design challenge to build every new Varium feature around a few hundred players when there are now 500,000 registered accounts. This may, no doubt, be disappointing to some Elites, but, ultimately, Varium, achievements, or any other baubles we can award you in-game are paultry trinkets when it comes to thanking you for supporting us during those shaky early days of EpicDuel. We are genuinely grateful for your support, and we definitely would not be here today without you. We appreciate your continued loyalty, and hope you continue to duel with us as EpicDuel grows and evolves.

For a recap, here is a list of all that Elites have received/will receive:
Elite Achievement
Founder Achievement
Founder Armor
Beta Weapons
Three months of unlimited Varium
Color-Customizable Hoverbike

5 ~ June 25, 2010 ~ Gamma first gets announced

6 ~ July 9th, 2010 ~ The first Gamma DN is posted.

7 ~ July 30, 2010 ~ Another Gamma Preview

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Plus, everyone has something else to look forward to in this release:
Elites and Founders > Achievement ratings will improve by 500 points each
Beta Participants > Beta Weapons will improve dramatically (watch the videos for more details)
Free Players > New Armor sets, plus the existing Assault Bot will be added as a rare prize in Valestras arcade.

8 ~ November 24, 2010 ~ Armour enhancements introduced

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Finally bring back those dusty old armors from storage and give them a much-needed boost with armor enhancements! Founders will be rewarded by receiving 10 enhancement slots for their legendary armor. More than any in the game!

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New Features!

* Frostbane returns! Free with purchase of the 10k varium package or from Titan and Nightwraith in Central Station.
* Increased enhancement slots on Frostbane!
* Armor enhancements! Add stat points to your armor! Founder armor receives 10 slots!
* All primary weapons receive an additional 2 available enhancement slots!
* New Daily War Kill leaderboard tracks emplacement kills for each player!
* New Warlord achievement for winners of the Daily War Kills leaderboard!

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So founders have the best looking armor in the game, best stat placement, most stats, an achievment which has already been buffed. Their armor got buffed (given 10 slots). The armor has been at the top ever since it was released and its only level 25... Now they're getting 1k varium for free. The only thing founders were promised were an achievment and armor for those who purchased the larger varium packages yet the devs have given them more than promised. They still keep on complaining and they won't stop because they don't know what it feels like to be weak. As for elites, you want them to have unlimited varium just so the game's development can cease to progress? Founders also got the beta weps for free whereas elites got all the perks of a founder and in addition an extra achievment, unlimited varium, 20k varium ( that's 100 USD) when unlimited varium was taken away.

EDIT: As a non founder I've had to use the +6 armors, +8 armors such as cadens cuirass and the oh so ugly uni-gender armors such as space warrior. And I'll tell you what. Here's the difference between you and me. I'm happy for founder duel master armor to be buffed as long as non founders get an armor just as good as founder armor ( even if it is level 33).

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Ok heres the deal. We got founders armor because we supported ED in the first months so we deserve it. You guys who are non varium what did you do to deserve something.


Non-Variums probably make up over 50% of the player base. (Therefore supporting the game by us having a much larger player base.)

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We got founders armor because we supported ED in the first months so we deserve it.

Founder amor obviously wasn't promised to be the best in the game forever. AND now it most certainly isn't. You can't argue with me on that point because as of the latest update my NON Founder alt is far better in Bunny armor than my Founder mage.

ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW?

Founders NEVER promised to be around forever either. Founders should be GONE from this game FOREVER right?

ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW?

Founders have NEVER spent enough money on this game right? http://www.epicduel.com/charpage.asp?id=Shadronica http://www.epicduel.com/charpage.asp?id=shadist

ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW?

Yep lets just forget that there was ANY players here before you came to this game right? I mean how dare Founders want to wear an armor that you didn't get because as far as your concerned the game started when you did right?

ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW?

Non varium players are still getting beaten pretty badly by non founders right? OH MY! Shock horror!

ARE YOU ALL HAPPY NOW?

No ... founders were not promised that we would have the best armor in the game forever but what part of "WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE THE BEST ARMOR IN THE GAME FOREVER WE WOULD BE HAPPY FOR MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO BE MADE OCCASIONALLY TO BE ABLE TO USE IT" did you not understand?

Now run along like good little children and learn to play nice because I at least feel HAPPIER for getting this off my chest. ;)


You actually supported in the first month with Artix Entertainment. Elites supported in the first months.

What makes you different to the rest of us who have bought varium? You just bought at a different time.
I personally got the Beta weapons, But began playing during the Founder promo (December 2009)

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Don't reply if you haven't read all i posted and yes i do expect you to read it all. little ingrates. i could post more so don't test me.
not to mention founder is the only armor i know of that can get 10 on all 3 stats giving 40+ or more and still have some left over stats. i swear if i managed to take a pick of that player this discussion would be over.





< Message edited by phrax -- 7/23/2011 7:05:25 >

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Actully ED would make as much money either if it does or does not do the Skin idea becuase without Skins you sell your old armor with Skins you keep it so you can switch up your looks but not your build, also Skins makes it so we dont all look like abominations(which has a set armor and helm so males females and all classes look EXACTLY the same)

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There is absolutely no part of what I'm seeing in this thread which suggests that founders are asking for a "free buff", and there is nothing saying they expect it to be buffed to always be better than every other item, either. In fact, I'm seeing evidence to the contrary in both cases. So what you're doing is essentially arguing a point that the opposition hasn't argued at all.