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7/25/2011 12:55:11   
Calogero
Member

@ Isaiah

problem in ' Buff them all ' tho

Takes more time to buff them all instead of slightly nerving 1 class
If Everything gets buffed, then NPC's would need to be buffed aswell
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7/25/2011 12:57:23   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@andy Ok I must admit maybe some classes do need slight balance adjustments but I think that should be done threw slight buffs and perhaps changing the order of some skills or nearly changing them completely.
AQW Epic  Post #: 27
7/25/2011 13:09:29   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


 guys do remember the Testing team is already working on getting CH and BM to TLM power
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7/25/2011 13:11:40   
Calogero
Member

The devs have clearly not thought about the Skills in Tiers...

changing the Op'd Skills to different tiers might bring more balance.

What would work for BloodMage ( I think that is :P )

Add Assimilate Back to a tier 4 skill instead of Reflex Boost
Put Reflex Boost instead of Intimidate
Perhaps a buff of some kind to Super Charge, you don't need to be a veteran to know it's sht

for the Tact mercs

I've heard someone suggest adding a Support requirement to Frenzy ( could work, don't say it does )
Putting Smoke or/and Reroute in a Tier 3/4

for the CyberHunter, I don't really know due to not having played as one
so those that Have the class and tested it should know what would be best
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 29
7/25/2011 13:14:15   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


 i can only agree on one thing completely with you andy i havent had much work as a BM but Assimilte is an incredily useful skill beucase all builds now a-days are build with the exact amount of Energy they need
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 30
7/25/2011 13:21:31   
Calogero
Member

@ OWA

I know... I had a STR build back then that worked amazingly... shure I lost sometimes but we were able to use a STR build succesfully
Now, bleh.
Shure I have adapted and am now trying a Max Reflex Boost / Maxed Technician but I never liked 5 focus...

I added the Small buff to Super Charge due to... Let's be honest, it's crap, but seeing we have 2 skills that work on Dex and with Reflex Boost
You might be able to set up for a great DEX build

for how it is now, it makes no sence having both Technician/Reflex Boost and Intimidate, they kinda do the same thing
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 31
7/25/2011 13:44:31   
InceptionAE
Member

Fact: The worst balance update is Agility. Not this.

So, please get your facts straight. Also, you can stop whining about tac. mercenaries. Cause I turned to bounty and still could beat them. You just need to know a good build.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 32
7/25/2011 13:45:21   
edwardvulture
Member

@andy123 Supercharge is situational. If you don't know where a skill point should go put it there.
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7/25/2011 13:54:24   
DillBagel
Member

We should take a week to put the other classes above Tactical Merc. xD
Passive static charge: Cyber Hunter becomes amazing
Smoke or malfunction: Blood mage will kill us all.

That's very similar to what happens when everyone is a Tactical Merc.
I say let them be the bottom for a while, and watch 90% of them switch because they only wanted the easy wins.
AQW Epic  Post #: 34
7/25/2011 13:54:25   
Calogero
Member

@ Edward

I tried using SC with a 54 Reflex Boost Buff... I dealt 25 damage ( I had 45 + 56 + 54 dex )

You don't need to be smart to know if it says above 80 damage and you do 25, that it clearly is UP'd
Surgical Strike does even more
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 35
7/25/2011 13:56:26   
DillBagel
Member

@OneWingedAngel Not true. Since 90% of the varium players are Tac Mercs, they get there energy back anyways. Cyber Hunters and Mages do as well. That leaves Blood Mages and Mercenaries as the only classes assimilation will change the battle for.
AQW Epic  Post #: 36
7/25/2011 14:11:26   
edwardvulture
Member

@andy Situational as in
e.g. I just used up my heal, I need some way to get back a bit life while infliction 20 damage.
It is also a finish if your opponent has 20 or less.
I understand that it is crap for blood mage as you already have blood lust.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 37
7/25/2011 14:32:19   
Elf Priest JZaanu
Constructive!
quote:

Fatal Impact : If u mad then change class.



I think this was the point of having such a versatile class in Tactical Merc. Both Blood Mage and Cyber Hunter are work in progress, and even more for Mage class. I have gotten many unique responses about why am I still a "mage". I have also gotten quite a few recommendations to class change into Tactical Merc.

There was a point in releasing the Delta Package, cheaper class change, and finally new classes.

From a request from a single player who wished to be a class she initially desired to be, the game is now focused on this feature.

Many will enjoy the constant opportunity for change, and this is not against anyone who chose their desired directions.

AQW Epic  Post #: 38
7/25/2011 15:04:04   
Wraith
Member
 
quote:


I think this was the point of having such a versatile class in Tactical Merc. Both Blood Mage and Cyber Hunter are work in progress, and even more for Mage class. I have gotten many unique responses about why am I still a "mage". I have also gotten quite a few recommendations to class change into Tactical Merc.

There was a point in releasing the Delta Package, cheaper class change, and finally new classes.

From a request from a single player who wished to be a class she initially desired to be, the game is now focused on this feature.

Many will enjoy the constant opportunity for change, and this is not against anyone who chose their desired directions.


The main issue here is that while people remain in one class, many who don't have the determination flock to the new class. Most people that come now are very young, use money from their parents, not their own. They don't care about Var spending.
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7/25/2011 15:15:23   
PowerMega
Member

Supercharge....is garbage and will never do as high as its suppose to do in pvp because its flawed in so many way. its okay seeing 42 tech for max supercharge, ok, but the dex requirement is probally whats setting it back on damage because no offense, littlerally most builds stats counter it, so its one of the most failed skills. A nice a surprise at the lower levels but crap as you start moving up and hit those 30's for 59 energy when your opponent just aux you for nearly double the damage and no energy cost, gf.

< Message edited by PowerMega -- 7/25/2011 15:17:41 >
Post #: 40
7/25/2011 15:21:17   
Elf Priest JZaanu
Constructive!


 Seeing the new players support the game with these new classes is nice. To be part of something fresh, many who (from other games) had some extra battleon points got a change to start the game. We shall see how this continues. :)
AQW Epic  Post #: 41
7/25/2011 15:44:56   
PowerMega
Member

^Not gonna lie, that's really irrelevant to the matter at hand, whether new players are trying out the new classes, if anything, they likely going for the current broken all rounder Tactical Mercenary.
Post #: 42
7/25/2011 15:49:53   
edwardvulture
Member

Ok guys don't try a dex supercharge build, try a support supercharge build with decent dex. Supercharge just won't work for blood mage.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 43
7/25/2011 16:00:45   
DeathGuard
Member

Too sad, now I'm only seeing merc and tlms, such a shame, they change for easy wins, being a true player doesn't mean to change to the oped class just like someone in here said to change if they were losing, that is the stupidest solution I ever read, what is the point if all the players tlm? All will have the same opportunites/builds/strategies. Resume of it: BORED! So they should balance the classes! Is it that too hard for the testing team? Please guys, come back to reality and put your feet on the ground, we are unbalanced and if you don't like it suck it up.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 44
7/25/2011 17:44:17   
frosty123
Member
 

 I think they arnt gonna nerf it cause someone said " If you takeo ut a skill they have a million more builds". f you ask me the main cause might be HA (hybred armor). I really wouldnt change it much but make a new skill called.... (Idk) but make it passive. It ignores 1% of the atk each lv it is. Of course it will make it unpredictible(like when your asking urself a question will this kill it?) but itsb etter than -12 from each physical. Better 10% off on physical then 12.
Post #: 45
7/25/2011 17:54:15   
Angels Holocaust
Member

Tactical mercs are balanced, leave them alone.
Post #: 46
7/25/2011 18:05:15   
Yo son
Member

Unless, the game developers are creating new builds, or giving every other class hybrid, I literally don't see any way to bring classes like BM, CH,TM up to TLM/Merc competitive class.

quote:

If u mad then change class.

So your agreeing with me that TLM is Oped, because if am mad, and you want me to change class, then changing to TLM will make me happy; in other words, changing to TLM will get more more wins, better ratio, fast kills, and allow me to use senseless builds? thanks for agreeing that TLM is Oped.

Wake up, their are 6 different class for a reason, most are TLM :O.

Btw Frenzy is really annoying, for a skill that can heal you that much, look at the kind of mana it takes? you think your going to win, but next thing you know, your hp just went down by alot, and ur opponent went up by 10-15 hp.
Post #: 47
7/25/2011 18:06:04   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

str bhs are gud aainst tac merces. BALANCED

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AQW Epic  Post #: 48
7/25/2011 18:53:34   
Yo son
Member

quote:

str bhs are gud aainst tac merces. BALANCED

ur forgetting that every player in this game are not BH, talkless of Strenght BH.; so therefore; going off your statement-if strength bhs are gud against TLM. Balanced; then non strength BH or any other class is not good agaisnt TLM; so not Balanced.
Post #: 49
7/25/2011 20:03:58   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


 @Dilly yeah reroute ruins the concept but Assimilate is tier 4 on both TM and BM(when it had it) while EMP is tier 1 and 2 on BH and CH

@Angels we are leaving TLM alone we are buffing the other classes

< Message edited by One Winged Angel1357 -- 7/25/2011 20:04:09 >

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