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12/6/2011 22:23:40   

frankly i still wish they update all the powers to lv 20 versions..cause thiers still powersi ndeathitude and other shops that are only 15 or less...only liberty was updated...partly when the cap rasied...

if pvp is truely going to be balanced...they need to get those powers up todate...it would be a plus if they put uptodate versions of powers in our bag/bank that are rare

im saying this cuase i was usen mostly lv 15 and lower skills befor the debuffing storm
AQW  Post #: 26
12/6/2011 22:29:23   
Chatue San

Yeah, they really ought to add some sort of enhancement or something. I'm still using level 9, 10, and 14 powers since I refuse to throw out rares and I wish they'd be updated to my current level.
AQW  Post #: 27
12/6/2011 22:29:54   

I just want Warrior Spirit, Brain Freeze, and the Giant Powers up to 20.
DF MQ AQW  Post #: 28
12/6/2011 22:34:06   
Haunting Mystery

There goes my Warrior's Spirit.I like the nerfing of the skills, so good job! :D

I'll have to test how WS now later in-game.My computer is starting to crash when I play Herosmash or any other flash game.

Oooooh, new mini-game! :D

Post #: 29
12/6/2011 22:38:00   
Sir Night

While I'm kinda sad to see Irradiate nerfed (especially since I paid SC for it), all in all I think the changes are great. And whats all this talk about Stupefacio being useless now? The cooldown is only 5 seconds longer than that of Bash and otherwise it's still a better stun. It just isn't OP anymore. It's also good to see Darkness and Death Touch nerfed and Phase Shift buffed. Those were also much needed changes.

Now about further changes that still need to be made. Regeneration should really be buffed in my opinion. Sure the energy cost is low, but it just seems too weak to really be useful, especially with the other heals that are available. Also like someone said mental powers are kinda overpowered for PvP, especially in 1 on 1 matches.

EDIT: Yeah I agree we need a lvl 20 Giant Stomp. That isn't even rare. It would be nice to get a lvl 20 Animal Fury and Claw as well, but those might end up being OP themselves, so...

< Message edited by Sir Night -- 12/6/2011 22:40:51 >
Post #: 30
12/7/2011 0:01:09   

im sorry to say this...but its becoming to difficult to handle the incomatence of AE staff...im not trying to be mean or flame, but when you nerf on one game we expect you to nerf on other games such as AQW

and i fail to see how DT and war spirt was soo OP...and my gawd man war spirt is a lv 15 skill...sooner or later as lv caps raies again its going to be junk

and instead of "balanceing the game" why not balance the servers to the point you dont have lag in pvp

due to these "changes" and the lack of attention to this game in genarule you wont see me much more in HS

its a darn shame this is a game i was "considered" the best in

ill prolly just keep my account updated in hopes AE staff will tighten up and not do things like in aqw where they had a fundraise in J6's shop for aleinoverlord was for a motorcicle.....if thats not greed then idk what is
AQW  Post #: 31
12/7/2011 1:20:45   

@linklink: Even if you didn't 'try' to be mean or flame you just did.
The reason you were considered the 'best' in the game (which I doubt, considering I hadn't heard about you until a few weeks ago and that you've only made 38 posts in the forums) was because of the overbalanced power system that has been recently rectified.

Please consider the AE staff who do their utmost best in trying to make this game best for the majority of it's players when you write comments such as this because by labeling the staff as 'incompetent' (which has a 'p' btw) you are giving the wrong impression to anyone who reads it.

Sorry about that but it had to be said.

< Message edited by Charries -- 12/7/2011 1:22:07 >
AQW  Post #: 32
12/7/2011 1:47:51   

Warrior Spirit didn't need to be nerfed...disappointing...

< Message edited by primalvoldo -- 12/7/2011 2:19:25 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 33
12/7/2011 2:44:27   

Sorry, Link, but Charries is correct. Throwing no offense in before a blatant insult doesn't make it any better.
Though you were once considered the best amongst our tight little circle of *elites*, (which by the way is why I left; I hate labeling people in ranks,) that time has passed. There are many players I have fought who surpass you in not only skill, but sportsmanship. Please don't be mean to AE either, Yergen and the rest of the HeroSmash team work HARD to keep us petty players entertained. They are trying to do what they can.

On another note, has Charries heard anything about me? :D I like to think I am reputable as a player.
Helps boost the already quickly growing superiority complex I have floating over my head.

Just kidding.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 34
12/7/2011 3:23:13   

i joined the fourms to talk about the pvp seeing as thier isnt much else to talk about in game becuase iv and plenty others have kepted our accounts up to date

well saying that is certinly better then blantely cussing at the entire AE staff

sorry for being a poor sport about how AE is spending thier time and money on petty things other then keep servers up to date to reduce lagticy that 70% i hear and see complain about....im thinking about moving on to another game, iv met some darn awesome ppl in AE games in genrule im really happy becuase of that

as for the sprotmanship for pvp..i love it...loseing provides me insight to what hits my set ups harder then others also alows me to make adjustments where needs be if i feel like even maken the adjustment

anti..i never said no office..i said im sorry i have/need/want/had to say w/e was said in previes statements...you can hate/dislike or whate ever floats your boat i gave my opinen with some pride and im pretty sure other ppl who play any AE game would agree with my last few posts...again..this is my opinen you call can totly disreguard it and move on with your lifes and leave me behinde

for you charries actuly i am not the most known player but im mroe well known then most players only becuase i hung around the smashdome so much wanting to fight everyone/ for my quick kills/ for normaly domainte brawl/ so on and so forth...as well the only thing that was nerfed in my set ups was two skills which was vamp and war spirt (still fail to see why nerf it when its 5 lvs belowcaps) and 2 other powers was lv 15...so nothen of mine was OP...the only thing changed about me is im only 10% slower and my DoTs are 10 damge smaller...still dishingo ut 1500s damge in singles....lastly im glad you gave your veiw..and the spell checking .-. lol i have always been a horrid speller

and yes i gloat..i know it and im controling it much better then i have in the past

again hate if you want...im rather used to it...it builds up tolerance

again this is mostly biased opinens with some facts thrown in
AQW  Post #: 35
12/7/2011 3:34:48   

My statement about 'no offense' was a metaphor, actually...
As for 1500 damage in 1v1, it isn't impressive. I am regularly forced to do over 2000 damage against experienced healers in one on one PvP.
Also, don't turn this into a flame war, please...
I'll be forced to sacrifice a young lamb to the Moddess (pun intended) Ashari in hopes she will view you as a worthy subject to smite.

Long story medium: No. Argument is invalid. Your statistics are based on random estimates and, as you have said yourself, are biased opinions. You're flaming AE Staff which is against the Terms of Service. Read them. It has nothing to do with my personal opinion on your thoughts. It's how you come across to others when you voice those thoughts.

AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 36
12/7/2011 3:43:53   

stupe nerf does not bother me only the warrior spirit nerf

I rlly dont thnk warrior spirit is that op and death touch nerf and buff was useless

my opinion but now the mental powers rule
DF  Post #: 37
12/7/2011 3:59:18   

then bring the mods to me...i can fight them with facts and statics.....

anti im not sure what has came over you this past few weeks...but you change in your moods/behavior isnt like how we first met im not sure if you hold some resentment due your hate for labeling

dont respaond to this...im rather tired of replying to this as it seems both sides are at an impasse due to stubberness/pigheaded

also...iv kinda wanted to say this for a long time when iv seen such a different side to chats in HS/aqw and the forums

ppl in the forums put on this happy go lucky mask when they talk here due to the fact mods and admins and AK can actually read what you say....its like you all try to get on their good side when you dont even act like normaly do around ppl in a live chat, you prolly can guess i dont change this so called mask just because i could be banned in a split sec...no i go on my merry way being my self...it really dose bother me to see such change in behavior because of a few higher ups
AQW  Post #: 38
12/7/2011 4:22:16   

I just have a quick question: do these power nerfs only apply for PvP, or does it apply to the entire game? That'd make many non-PvP battles much harder. Also, will there be stat boost medals like in AQWorlds?
Post #: 39
12/7/2011 5:34:09   

I think they shouldn't have touched rare powers.
AQW  Post #: 40
12/7/2011 8:34:37   

I agree Citrinas, that's what kept them in my inventory.. the power that they offer. I am quite disappointed with the nerfing of some of the rare skills, but if it is for the common good, so be it.

@Link : You clearly are posing a mischievous attitude by threatening the moderators. Again, to back up my statement, you have to pay a little visit to the Terms and Conditions. If you take this as something which is rude, open your eyes and see that it will clearly help you out.
Post #: 41
12/7/2011 12:39:38   
Sir Night

I disagree. The fact that they are rare makes it even more unfair if they're OP because they aren't an option for everyone.

Anyway, the fact that Warrior Spirit is getting nerfed makes me wonder if the rares are about to get updated for the lvl 20 players. /me gets hopeful
Post #: 42
12/7/2011 12:55:18   

incomatence? I'm just gonna assume that it means something among the lines of "awesomeness" in your strange version of the english language. You saying that AQW needs a need makes no sense, this Is the HS team not the AQW team they probably have some agreement to not mess with the other team's work.

I'm at level 20 and my level 9 Episkea is still a great healing skill, not to mention that stupefacio (level 5 I think?) is still used in A LOT of builds. So levels =/= power

They really can't get rid of server lag for good, it varies on a number of variables but hopefully they'll find a way to minimize it in PvP. Which wouldn't be balancing it at all.

Bye, your lack of spelling and simple logic will make sure that I won't miss you.

I've never heard of you before you started whining on the forums. Besides I'm pretty sure the mods would be the best.

AQW staff =/= HS staff, and I really have no idea what you are trying to say here.

Well you could talk about the releases, what you hope to see in the future of this game, how long it takes a person to run a spellcheck on their post, etc.

Not really, I'd rather be sworn at then have someone who thinks they know what they are talking about try to use logic to make me change something in my game (assuming I actually make a game). That and a bunch if swear words with no context can be funny...

You do not control how they spend the money that they make, and again they really cant control the lag fully. Then go to a different game that you'll tire of because of the same complaints. 

As does every other game, losing make you smarter as to what you should be doing.

I disagree fully and site simple logic, and you did say "no offense" earlier.

WS got nerfed because it was too strong, levels don't matter. I still have heard of you outside of your whining here.
Really? I highly doubt that.

And loneliness, trust me I know.

I've not seen a single fact.

And I will use logic, which will destroy your "facts and statistics" which are out of context and/or made up.

And probably hate for you specifically, or something happened in real life that changed him a bit, I honestly don't know.
"respaond", you were REALLY close that time, and yes you really are stubborn.

A good amount of People in AQW are idiots, no offense to those who aren't, but when you're in the forums you are expected to adhere to a certain guideline of behaviors. In the forums posts are easier to see and punishment is easier to hand out, while ingame you must use the /report tool if people are misbehaving. It's harder to punish them ingame because A LOT of people get reported and Its much harder to sort through all the reports.

ppl in the forums put on this happy go lucky mask when they talk here due to the fact mods and admins and AK can actually read what you say....its like you all try to get on their good side when you dont even act like normaly do around ppl in a live chat, you prolly can guess i dont change this so called mask just because i could be banned in a split sec...no i go on my merry way being my self...it really dose bother me to see such change in behavior because of a few higher ups
The reason they are (usually) nice here is because they have to follow the rules, which I recommend you go and (re)read. The only major difference between how I act on the forums and in-game is that I'm much ruder ingame and usually distracted (usually by zombies.) Now let me tell you a story, of a site and why rules are there...

...actually I won't because it would take to long to word it in a way that is forum-safe and makes sense, so just know that the rules are there so the site doesn't lose advertisers and go bankrupts due to a few idiots.

Anyway I don't think I'll be posting much here for a while.


Remember that time that everyone hated me?

AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 43
12/7/2011 16:45:34   


Death Touch

Oh no...

-Cooldown increased to 90 seconds from 60 seconds.


-Range reduced to melee

Eh, sure...

-Death's Hand (DOT effect) has had it's damage reduced.

I guess that balances the damage debuff...Meh...

A for my Vampire Bite power, I think the new balance is fair. =)

~Lady Zafara
AQW  Post #: 44
12/7/2011 17:00:52   

Shadow, that made me laugh and I don't know if that is what you intended.
I'll just leave it at what you said...

In other news: This new balance update has made me near immortal, as I expected. Cheers to you, Dumoose, you have unleashed doom and cruelty of unknown proportions on these poor players.

Unrelated: My brother-in-law named his dog Moose. That dog is a sweetiepie.

AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 45
12/7/2011 17:27:48   

We shall see, Anti...I have me a new build that I am eager to test out...

And as far as the Flamer is concerned, first off, do NOT even try; you will only cause self-harm, and secondly, if you are going to do it AT ALL, learn to spell...
Post #: 46
12/7/2011 18:25:00   

They weaken one thing, but then other sets are stronger and less vulnerable as a result...
it's like messing with the food chain x.x now we have to survive Anti :(
DF MQ  Post #: 47
12/7/2011 18:29:01   

I do agree.But is in fact,Death Touch seem to much .And i much agree if Stupefacio unconscious temporarily scant to 5 sec or less than because I can't stand,Tally(player HS) does't gave me a chance and in less than two sec,i have been knocked.
Post #: 48
12/7/2011 18:33:46   

@drakathknight98 aw I've already been nerfed though.
DF MQ  Post #: 49
12/7/2011 18:39:47   

power apply to the the game not just pvp which makes this stink all the more.
Post #: 50
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