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1/26/2012 1:01:54   
Watashig
Member

quote:

Undead Fire Giant
(same name for every variant)

DESCRIPTION
This giant had bad luck when fighting an evil necromancer, and to make things worse, someone set him on fire! Arkiron was the first to discover the potent spells needed to make this creature serve another master.


Flaming Undead Kitten
(same name for every variant)

DESCRIPTION
*gasp* A kitty! *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow.

I may have missed the rest of the description, if there is such thing. I counted 15.
Added, thanks! ~Koree

< Message edited by Koree -- 2/4/2012 3:28:04 >
Post #: 26
1/26/2012 2:05:21   
  Ianthe
 formerly In Media Res

 
quote:

Undead Fire Giant

Attack#1 is a one-hit Melee Fire attack.
Attack#2 is three hits, Magic Fire. You get healed HP equal to the damage dealt on the first hit. All hits do 1/4 damage (not 1/3).

Attack #2 occurs (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1). Otherwise, it does Attack#1. 

Level	15	35	55	75	95	115	135
Type	-	G	-	-	-	-	G
PLvl	15	41	55	75	95	115	138
CHALvl	15	39	55	75	95	115	137
CHA	-66	-66	-66	-66	-66	-66	-66
Base	3	8	11	16	22	29	37
Rand	6	12	16	23	30	38	49
Stat	149	278	347	446	545	644	758
BtH	3	10	13	18	23	28	34
Price	250	1350	6275	28525	77650	205650	559225
Flaming Undead Kitty

Attack #1 occurs 80% of the time. It's one hit of 10/11 damage.
Attack #2 occurs 20% of the time. It's four hits of 14/11 damage (total). 
Level	39	55	85	100	110	127
Type	-	Z	-	-	-	-
PLvl	39	70	85	100	110	127
CHALvl	39	66	85	100	110	127
CHA	-66	-66	-66	-66	-66	-66
Base	7	13	16	20	23	27
Rand	12	24	32	39	44	56
Stat	268	422	496	570	620	704
BtH	9	17	21	25	27	31
Price	1850	2350	48700	98650	160650	374150
Added, thanks! ~Koree

< Message edited by Koree -- 2/4/2012 3:28:25 >
AQ  Post #: 27
1/26/2012 2:08:47   
Dreiko Shadrack
Member

^is the level 135 version of the Fire giant supposed to have a CHA requirement of 134?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 28
1/26/2012 2:11:52   
  Ianthe
 formerly In Media Res

 

 No. *fixes*
AQ  Post #: 29
1/26/2012 2:39:46   
Dragoon23
Legendary AK!!!
quote:

Giant (wow, It's really big o.o)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/Dragoon23/AdventureQuest/8bacba44.jpg

Flaming Kitty:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/Dragoon23/AdventureQuest/c9979e99.jpg
We already had an image for the Fire Giant. I used the image for Kitten though, thanks! ~Koree

< Message edited by Koree -- 2/4/2012 3:30:31 >
Post #: 30
1/26/2012 3:40:08   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 
quote:

Undead Fire Giant

Level: 15
Power Level: 15
CHA Level: 15
Price: 250 Gold
Sellback: 125 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 3-9 plus 149% Stats
BTH: 3 plus Stats
Rate: «See Below**»

ATTACK #2
Hits: 3
Type: Magic
Element: Fire
Damage: 0.75-2.25 plus 37.25% Stats each*
BTH: 3 plus Stats each
Rate: «See Below**»

NOTE
* You get healed HP equal to the damage dealt on the first hit.
**It does Attack#2 (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1). The rest of the time, it does Attack#1.

DESCRIPTION
This giant had bad luck when fighting an evil necromancer, and to make things worse, someone set him on fire! Arkiron was the first to discover the potent spells needed to make this creature serve another master.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Correction thanks to Balu.




Undead Fire Giant

Level: 35
Power Level: 41
CHA Level: 39
Price: 1,350 Gold
Sellback: 675 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 8-20 plus 278% Stats
BTH: 10 plus Stats
Rate: «See Below**»

ATTACK #2
Hits: 3
Type: Magic
Element: Fire
Damage: 2-5 plus 69.5% Stats each*
BTH: 10 plus Stats each
Rate: «See Below**»

NOTE
* You get healed HP equal to the damage dealt on the first hit.
**It does Attack#2 (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1). The rest of the time, it does Attack#1.

DESCRIPTION
This giant had bad luck when fighting an evil necromancer, and to make things worse, someone set him on fire! Arkiron was the first to discover the potent spells needed to make this creature serve another master.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Correction thanks to Balu.



Undead Fire Giant

Level: 55
Power Level: 55
CHA Level: 55
Price: 6,275 Gold
Sellback: 3,137 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 11-27 plus 347% Stats
BTH: 13 plus Stats
Rate: «See Below**»

ATTACK #2
Hits: 3
Type: Magic
Element: Fire
Damage: 2.75-6.75 plus 86.75% Stats each*
BTH: 13 plus Stats each
Rate: «See Below**»

NOTE
* You get healed HP equal to the damage dealt on the first hit.
**It does Attack#2 (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1). The rest of the time, it does Attack#1.

DESCRIPTION
This giant had bad luck when fighting an evil necromancer, and to make things worse, someone set him on fire! Arkiron was the first to discover the potent spells needed to make this creature serve another master.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Correction thanks to Balu.



Undead Fire Giant

Level: 75
Power Level: 75
CHA Level: 75
Price: 28,525 Gold
Sellback: 14,262 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 16-39 plus 446% Stats
BTH: 18 plus Stats
Rate: «See Below**»

ATTACK #2
Hits: 3
Type: Magic
Element: Fire
Damage: 4-9.75 plus 111.5% Stats each*
BTH: 18 plus Stats each
Rate: «See Below**»

NOTE
* You get healed HP equal to the damage dealt on the first hit.
**It does Attack#2 (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1). The rest of the time, it does Attack#1.

DESCRIPTION
This giant had bad luck when fighting an evil necromancer, and to make things worse, someone set him on fire! Arkiron was the first to discover the potent spells needed to make this creature serve another master.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Correction thanks to Balu.



Undead Fire Giant

Level: 95
Power Level: 95
CHA Level: 95
Price: 77,650 Gold
Sellback: 38,825 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 22-52 plus 545% Stats
BTH: 23 plus Stats
Rate: «See Below**»

ATTACK #2
Hits: 3
Type: Magic
Element: Fire
Damage: 5.5-13 plus 136.25% Stats each*
BTH: 23 plus Stats each
Rate: «See Below**»

NOTE
* You get healed HP equal to the damage dealt on the first hit.
**It does Attack#2 (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1). The rest of the time, it does Attack#1.

DESCRIPTION
This giant had bad luck when fighting an evil necromancer, and to make things worse, someone set him on fire! Arkiron was the first to discover the potent spells needed to make this creature serve another master.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Correction thanks to Balu.



Undead Fire Giant

Level: 115
Power Level: 115
CHA Level: 115
Price: 205,650 Gold
Sellback: 102,825 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 29-67 plus 644% Stats
BTH: 28 plus Stats
Rate: «See Below**»

ATTACK #2
Hits: 3
Type: Magic
Element: Fire
Damage: 7.25-16.75 plus 161% Stats each*
BTH: 28 plus Stats each
Rate: «See Below**»

NOTE
* You get healed HP equal to the damage dealt on the first hit.
**It does Attack#2 (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1). The rest of the time, it does Attack#1.

DESCRIPTION
This giant had bad luck when fighting an evil necromancer, and to make things worse, someone set him on fire! Arkiron was the first to discover the potent spells needed to make this creature serve another master.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Correction thanks to Balu.




Undead Fire Giant

Level: 135
Power Level: 138
CHA Level: 137
Price: 559,225 Gold
Sellback: 279,612 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 37-86 plus 758% Stats
BTH: 34 plus Stats
Rate: «See Below**»

ATTACK #2
Hits: 3
Type: Magic
Element: Fire
Damage: 9.25-21.5 plus 189.5% Stats each*
BTH: 34 plus Stats each
Rate: «See Below**»

NOTE
* You get healed HP equal to the damage dealt on the first hit.
**It does Attack#2 (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1). The rest of the time, it does Attack#1.

DESCRIPTION
This giant had bad luck when fighting an evil necromancer, and to make things worse, someone set him on fire! Arkiron was the first to discover the potent spells needed to make this creature serve another master.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Corrections thanks to Dreiko Shadrack and Balu.



Flaming Undead Kitty

Level: 39
Power Level: 39
CHA Level: 39
Price: 1,850 Gold
Sellback: 925 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 6.36-17.27 plus 243.64% Stats
BTH: 9 plus Stats
Rate: 80%

ATTACK #2
Hits: 5
Type: Ranged
Element: Fire
Damage: 1.91-5.18 plus 73.09% Stats each
BTH: 9 plus Stats each
Rate: 20%

DESCRIPTION
*gasp* A kitty! *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Corrections thanks to woiszz, Xrai, bassetbookworm and Balu.



Flaming Undead Kitty

Level: 55
Power Level: 70
CHA Level: 66
Price: 2,350 Z-Tokens
Sellback: 2,115 Z-Tokens for the first 48 hours, then 1,175 Z-Tokens
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 11.82-33.64 plus 383.64% Stats
BTH: 17 plus Stats
Rate: 80%

ATTACK #2
Hits: 5
Type: Ranged
Element: Fire
Damage: 3.55-10.09 plus 115.09% Stats each
BTH: 17 plus Stats each
Rate: 20%

DESCRIPTION
*gasp* A kitty! *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Corrections thanks to woiszz, Xrai, bassetbookworm and Balu.



Flaming Undead Kitty

Level: 85
Power Level: 85
CHA Level: 85
Price: 48,700 Gold
Sellback: 24,350 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 14.55-43.64 plus 450.91% Stats
BTH: 21 plus Stats
Rate: 80%

ATTACK #2
Hits: 5
Type: Ranged
Element: Fire
Damage: 4.36-13.09 plus 135.27% Stats each
BTH: 21 plus Stats each
Rate: 20%

DESCRIPTION
*gasp* A kitty! *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Corrections thanks to woiszz, Xrai, bassetbookworm and Balu.



Flaming Undead Kitty

Level: 100
Power Level: 100
CHA Level: 100
Price: 98,650 Gold
Sellback: 49,325 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 18.18-53.64 plus 518.18% Stats
BTH: 25 plus Stats
Rate: 80%

ATTACK #2
Hits: 5
Type: Ranged
Element: Fire
Damage: 5.45-16.09 plus 155.45% Stats each
BTH: 25 plus Stats each
Rate: 20%

DESCRIPTION
*gasp* A kitty! *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Corrections thanks to woiszz, Xrai, bassetbookworm and Balu.



Flaming Undead Kitty

Level: 110
Power Level: 110
CHA Level: 110
Price: 160,650 Gold
Sellback: 80,325 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 20.91-60.91 plus 563.64% Stats
BTH: 27 plus Stats
Rate: 80%

ATTACK #2
Hits: 5
Type: Ranged
Element: Fire
Damage: 6.27-18.27 plus 169.09% Stats each
BTH: 27 plus Stats each
Rate: 20%

DESCRIPTION
*gasp* A kitty! *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Corrections thanks to woiszz, Xrai, bassetbookworm and Balu.



Flaming Undead Kitty

Level: 127
Power Level: 127
CHA Level: 127
Price: 374,150 Gold
Sellback: 187,075 Gold
Location: Today's Event » Flaming Undead! (War against Zorbak's forces!) » RED-HOT UNDEAD!

Element: Fire
Suggested Charisma: -66

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Fire
Damage: 24.55-75.45 plus 640% Stats
BTH: 31 plus Stats
Rate: 80%

ATTACK #2
Hits: 5
Type: Ranged
Element: Fire
Damage: 7.36-22.64 plus 192% Stats each
BTH: 31 plus Stats each
Rate: 20%

DESCRIPTION
*gasp* A kitty! *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow. *snuggles* Ow.



Numbers thanks to In Media Res. Description thanks to Watashig. Image thanks to Dragoon23. Basic stats and write-up thanks to AVA. Corrections thanks to woiszz, Xrai, bassetbookworm and Balu.


Done. :)
Added, thanks! ~Koree

< Message edited by Koree -- 2/4/2012 3:31:38 >
Post #: 31
1/26/2012 3:46:30   
woiszz
Member

quote:

shoudn't attack #2 of the Flaming Undead Kitty be 15/11 damage instead of 14/11??
Taken care of. ~Koree

< Message edited by Koree -- 2/1/2012 8:09:29 >
AQ  Post #: 32
1/26/2012 6:17:44   
Xrai
Member

quote:

Attack #2 of Flaming Undead Kitten is 5 hits Ranged, not 4 hits Magic.
Taken care of. ~Koree

< Message edited by Koree -- 2/1/2012 8:09:47 >
Post #: 33
1/26/2012 8:14:51   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 

 ^ Fixed, thanks. :)
Post #: 34
1/26/2012 10:39:42   
afterlifex
Legend-X
quote:

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.


-66 does not mean that. It will att 100% of the time with 0 cha but with lower then that they may not attack, it's little misleading.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 35
1/26/2012 11:17:13   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 

 ^ It doesn't matter how many the Suggested CHA is. :)
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.
It's 100% at 0 CHA, it's 100% at -66 CHA, it's 100% at -200 CHA, and it's 100% at -10000000 CHA.


< Message edited by AVA -- 1/26/2012 11:38:08 >
Post #: 36
1/26/2012 11:40:11   
Nex del Vida
Member

The Giant doesn't actually tell us how often it will do either of its attacks... (2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP]) of the time (min 0, max 1) isn't a percentage. If we say you're at 1/4 HP, this formula says it will attack (2-1)=1 of the time. Which doesn't make sense.
AQ  Post #: 37
1/26/2012 11:59:12   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 

 Yeah, it doesn't make sense(if I'm not wrong). :p

However, just as an example taken from:

Gaiden IV

ATTACK #1
Hits: 1
Type: Melee
Element: Water
Damage: 25-75 damage plus 543% Stats
BTH: +21 plus Stats
Rate: «See Below†»

ATTACK #2
Hits: 1
Type: Magic
Element: Heal
Damage: 19-57 damage plus 416% Stats
BTH: N/A (always hits)
Rate: «See Below†»

†NOTE
Gaiden does Attack#1 (YourCurrentHP / YourBaseHP) of the time. The rest of the time, he does Attack #2.
Post #: 38
1/26/2012 12:19:42   
Ranloth
Banned


 AVA, if you take a look at other pets, let's say BM Pets which require 134 CHA to attack 67% of the time. That means at 0 CHA, they won't attack at all. CHA required for 67% attack rate (for L100'ish) Pets is 134 CHA which is double 67. If we take -66 CHA, it means you will get 66% attack rate at -66 CHA and to get it to 100%, you need 0 CHA. It's the same with BM Pets as of now.

About % rate for attacks: Min 0, Max 1. In Math, decimals and percentages, 1 is always 100% and 0 is 0%. That's simply turning decimals into percentages. So at 1/4 of the time, if your calculations are right, it'll heal 100% of the time.

< Message edited by Trans -- 1/26/2012 12:22:00 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 39
1/26/2012 12:23:05   
Nex del Vida
Member

O.o Huh... that's interesting. Does anyone have experience with either of these (Gaiden or Giant)? Maybe it's supposed to be 100*(2 - 4*[Your current HP] / [Your base HP])% of the time (min 0%, max 100%)?

EDIT: Ninja'd.
AQ  Post #: 40
1/26/2012 12:52:04   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 

 @Trans: There is no distinction between BM pets and Non-BM pets anymore.

http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=19992748
quote:

ORIGINAL: Chii

To be perfectly clear, there's no distinction between beastmaster and non-beastmaster pets anymore. All new pets (and eventually, all older pets) will attack whether or not you have CHA, but CHA will continue to have various benefits such as letting pets do special attacks more often and more effectively. So this pet will attack every turn regardless of your CHA (as long as it's not outright negative, at least), but its Aftershock attack relies on CHA.

We don't have to use the old attack rate lines regarding the Pet Standards Update.

It doesn't matter how many the suggested CHA is, the attack rate will always 100%.
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.
It's 100% at 0 CHA, it's 100% at -66 CHA, it's 100% at -200 CHA, and it's 100% at -10000000 CHA etc.

So, I just use my way to do my write-ups for the basic attack rate line:
quote:

Element:
Suggested Charisma:

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

Examples:

1. Suggested Charisma: 19 and less or more
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=19985678

2. Suggested Charisma: -66
Undead Fire Giant and Flaming Undead Kitty with 100% attack rate of 80% and 20%.
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=20030755

< Message edited by AVA -- 1/26/2012 15:07:04 >
Post #: 41
1/26/2012 14:23:46   
afterlifex
Legend-X


 ^ no one is talking about BM vs non-BM and you seem to have miss the "So this pet will attack every turn regardless of your CHA (as long as it's not outright negative, at least)" in the very thing you quoted.

it's missleading it is NOT a fixed rate of att.

edit: I have sent a PM to Chii so i can end this here and now, waitng on response.

< Message edited by afterlifex -- 1/26/2012 14:28:49 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 42
1/26/2012 14:32:11   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 
quote:

quote:

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.


-66 does not mean that. It will att 100% of the time with 0 cha but with lower then that they may not attack, it's little misleading.

quote:

AVA, if you take a look at other pets, let's say BM Pets which require 134 CHA to attack 67% of the time. That means at 0 CHA, they won't attack at all. CHA required for 67% attack rate (for L100'ish) Pets is 134 CHA which is double 67. If we take -66 CHA, it means you will get 66% attack rate at -66 CHA and to get it to 100%, you need 0 CHA. It's the same with BM Pets as of now.
Post #: 43
1/26/2012 14:35:20   
afterlifex
Legend-X


 He was using it as refrance for att rates.

I also have gotten an answer back.

quote:

100% at 0 CHA. Negative CHA might bring you low enough to get the rare bounce. It's the same attack rate stats as non-BM pets had before.


As we have been saying nothing has changed with non-BM pets as far as att rate goes. Attack rates are still there.

edit:

it doesn't need be writen as such but:

att rate at 0cha=100%
att rate at -33cha= 84%
att rate at -66cha=67%

< Message edited by afterlifex -- 1/26/2012 14:46:45 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 44
1/26/2012 15:06:23   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 
quote:

All new pets (and eventually, all older pets) will attack whether or not you have CHA, but CHA will continue to have various benefits such as letting pets do special attacks more often and more effectively. So this pet will attack every turn regardless of your CHA.

From IMR
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.
It's 100% at 0 CHA, it's 100% at -66 CHA, it's 100% at -200 CHA, and it's 100% at -10000000 CHA

We don't have to use the old attack rate lines regarding the Pet Standards Update.
It doesn't matter how many the suggested CHA is, the attack rate will always 100%.
So, I just use my way to do my write-ups for the basic attack rate line:
quote:

Element:
Suggested Charisma:

ATTACK RATE
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.

Examples:

1. Suggested Charisma: 19 and less or more
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=19985678

2. Suggested Charisma: -66
Undead Fire Giant and Flaming Undead Kitty with 100% attack rate of 80% and 20%.
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=20030755
Post #: 45
1/26/2012 15:18:47   
Ranloth
Banned


 Guys, stop here:
quote:

[20:14:56] <Kamui> All new pets and updated ones will have a 100% attack rate.
[20:15:37] <Trans> So -66 CHA is there just for show simply? As it isn't needed otherwise (at least that's what I think)
[20:15:59] <Kamui> CHA will boost the damage and accuracy, and also provide special effects on some pets, like the MogZard knowing not to use the Aftershock attack if you have enough CHA.
[20:16:24] <Kamui> Pets like the MogZard still have a suggested CHA, but that's because it uses that for its ability AI.

I'm sorry AVA for confusion!
AQ Epic  Post #: 46
1/26/2012 15:26:41   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 

 No problem Trans. :)

IMR is my teacher, I believe him 100%, I just learn a lot of things and got this from him, that's why: ^_^
The attack rate is 100% regardless of what your CHA is.
It's 100% at 0 CHA, it's 100% at -66 CHA, it's 100% at -200 CHA, and it's 100% at -10000000 CHA
Post #: 47
1/26/2012 16:03:38   
bassetbookworm
The Hound is Watching...
quote:

AVA, it might be a little easier if for Kitten's second attack the damage was listed as per hit, not total. Here are the numbers for each hit of the second attack:

Level 39:
Damage: 1.782-4.836 plus 68.22% Stats

Level 55:
Damage: 3.309-9.418 plus 107.42% Stats

Level 85:
Damage: 4.073-12.218 plus 126.25% Stats

Level 100:
Damage: 5.091-15.018 plus 145.09% Stats

Level 110:
Damage: 5.855-17.055 plus 157.82% Stats

Level 127:
Damage: 6.873-21.127 plus 179.20% Stats

I've double check the numbers, and they make sense.
Looks like you used the wrong multiplier *14/11 instead of *15/11. *patpats* ~Koree

< Message edited by Koree -- 2/1/2012 8:11:46 >
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 48
1/27/2012 17:53:33   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member
 

 The damage of the attack #2 is now listed per hit.

@bassetbookworm: I have calculated the numbers myself and I just use the decimals at maximum of 2.
If 2.2177 then 2.22
If 2.217 then 2.22
If 2.21 then 2.21
If 2.20 then 2.20
If 2.07 then 2.07
If 2.05 then 2.05
If 2.04 then 2.04
Thanks for the correction and the effort anyway. Credited. :)

< Message edited by AVA -- 1/28/2012 9:31:51 >
Post #: 49
1/27/2012 18:23:53   
  Ianthe
 formerly In Media Res

 
quote:

quote:

shoudn't attack #2 of the Flaming Undead Kitty be 15/11 damage instead of 14/11??
Oops. Yeah, 15/11.
Taken care of. ~Koree

< Message edited by Koree -- 2/1/2012 8:12:09 >
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