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2/23/2012 23:30:38   
SouL Prisoner
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quote:

I think people have covered this well already, but I'd like to add this from the position as a member of Staff. We appreciate each and every player, whether you have paid, or not, whether you play every minute of every day, or don't, and whether you have the highest amount of wins out of everyone, or don't, we care about every single player equally. Without Founders and Elites though, this game wouldn't still be here for anyone to play, so in a way, everyone complaining because they aren't a founder, and 'it isn't fair', you should be thanking them in a way, because without them, you would have never been able to play this game.



i agree , founders helped ED , when they needed . so now if other players dont upgrade , will the only players who upgraded that time be enough ??


quote:

We appreciate each and every player, whether you have paid, or not, whether you play every minute of every day, or don't, and whether you have the highest amount of wins out of everyone



o really? if u did , the bike would hve been given to to every players who upgraded at least once (10k package) appreciation with words is not enough , juzz lyk how u treat founders , treat the rest of the varium players too(at least 50% of it).
ED already gifted the founders with 1k varium , how much more???

m not telling u should not gift founders! m telling when u gift founders , look at the rest of the other players who helped ED . gift founders thinking they helped ED b4 and gift the present varium players thinking thye r helping ED for smooth functioning ....
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2/23/2012 23:42:18   
doomknight powa
Member

I just want to say, remember the post way back when? You know, when they said they're also rewarding beta,gamma etc..? You dont know what it is yet, but how do you know its not a really nice set of weps or a bot or even another bike? what makes rewarding people bad? And what would you say if you were founder and you were being rewarded? I seriously dont think you'de have the same mindset, nor would you be angry at AE or ED. Just think for a minute people. Btw, who cares if founders get a bike? ITS A BIKE! its not like founders are getting 3k varium and 10k credits or even a usable wep.

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 227
2/24/2012 0:01:49   
SouL Prisoner
Member

^ its not matter of wat they r getting!! its all about "appreciation" . founders arent the only once who r of the worth to be appreciated , even the other varium players deserve the same .


quote:

And what would you say if you were founder and you were being rewarded?


even m a "founder" , but its true i dont use it any longer.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 228
2/24/2012 0:25:27   
Shadronica
Member

^ Umm I don't see founder on your character details. Besides that I have already posted above that everyone got gifted a short time ago so don't complain you aren't appreciated.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 229
2/24/2012 0:32:51   
SouL Prisoner
Member

^

quote:

i dont use it any longer.


this has a meaning , if* u could understand , i meant i dont use my founder acc anymore .


quote:

Besides that I have already posted above that everyone got gifted a short time ago so don't complain you aren't appreciated.



everyone1? how ? i dont rememeber every1 getting something for free ... plzz dont say about the inventory crap . it wasn't a gift!! if it was , it would hve been given to every1 who had acc at the movement , and not any1 who made acc , after that day , and gets 30 inventory .


i dont hve to telll AQW has given 200 acc , to olny the acc , that made b4 they awarded .

< Message edited by soulprisnerx -- 2/24/2012 0:33:44 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 230
2/24/2012 1:33:43   
Shadronica
Member

If I could understand your written English souprisnerx, I might be able to answer.

< Message edited by Shadronica -- 2/24/2012 1:38:46 >
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 231
2/24/2012 1:50:54   
Minus123
Member

@soul
So basically, what your saying is, everyone who comes later should get the same thing? So even if slavery was abolished, your saying that every race that was enslaved should still be in slavery? Because that's the logic in your last post (If im reading it correctly)
Post #: 232
2/24/2012 2:29:54   
SouL Prisoner
Member

^ WTF !

u dont see any difference in slavery and gifting ???

m here talking about gifting , not any kind of punishment .
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 233
2/24/2012 3:11:05   
Ranloth
Banned


 Minus used it as a comparison while using your example, soul. He didn't change topic to punishment but used an example.
And pathethic how people carry it on over 8 pages now, 3 members of the Staff already had their say on it, promised rewards for those other supporters of later stages (or all, sorta like AQW did with 6, 12, 24 Months of Membership rewards). But I can still see people either didn't read their posts or are picking it apart so they can somehow argue against it.
Get over it, it's a bike. You, other supporters, will be rewarded. AQW did do that (example above) so ED might do the same depending on amount of Varium bought/testing phase. And soul, maybe just 200 ACs but look at amount of people playing AQW after 4yrs.. Wait was it 5 BILLION ACs given out total? Now find average price per Adventure Coin and multiply by 5 Billion. See how much profit just went there for EVERYONE? Founders get as much appreciation there, hell, even Beta Testers got a rare class that they could buy again (Beta Berzerker) as a reward and you still can.
If you registered during Beta, you should've gotten 1K Varium free when starting. My alt account still has his 1K Varium as I didn't ever spend it and started it during Beta just for sake of it, so that's like $10 giveaway on every character you registered.

Still surprising, people argue because Founders aren't fair or they won't get the bike? It seems like 2nd one is big reason to flame the first one.
If you wait, you will get your rewards; Alpha, Beta, Gamma players. Give it a time so they can make a gift. What if you get a cool bike too? Want us to argue over 8 pages on Forum? No, it's called a gift and appreciating it.

@I see you picked part of Shadronica's post:
quote:

Besides that I have already posted above that everyone got gifted a short time ago so don't complain you aren't appreciated.

Yes everyone did, mind actually reading Staff posts? Power Hours for everyone, 10 free slots during Winter Event (they cost about 1K Varium per 10, was it? So that's $10 giveaway to EVERY single character made, just like in Beta). And it's hard to get proper point from your post, and yes it's your spelling that makes it difficult when it comes down to a discussion.
AQ Epic  Post #: 234
2/24/2012 3:38:11   
SouL Prisoner
Member

its only my point of view . i say or not , THEY * do want they feel is right , then y bother so much . its not lyk "u" say and they do .

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2/24/2012 3:40:55   
Ranloth
Banned


 And I only evaluated on your examples. If they do what feels right - how come a lot of players on Forum (past 8 pages..) argue over a Bike? If all supporters will be rewarded for their support for the game, just give it a time.
Funny, "not like I say and they do". Mind telling me where I implied that? Give me quote of what I said and what staff will do. If you mean rewards for different phases, Cindy said so. I'm quoting Staff members mainly and using my points to evaluate on it.
AQ Epic  Post #: 236
2/24/2012 3:44:22   
Vendile
Member

YESYESYES!

I am looking forward towards this
Post #: 237
2/24/2012 4:54:02   
Remorse
Member

@ Cindy,

If you guys wanna show you apreciation to all supporters.

Then all I ask is perhpas you guys could focus more on improving balance.

It seems that every time there is a balance update it is somehow assumed all is fixed then somehow ignored for along time after...

Blanace needs constant attention and to me its the only thing that NEEDs it.


Thank you for listening.

< Message edited by Remorse -- 2/24/2012 4:58:24 >
Epic  Post #: 238
2/24/2012 5:52:01   
drinde
Member

Plz Plox Pluse:

Make cutscenes for the End? Please? Plox? Pluse?

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2/24/2012 7:08:34   
Practel
Spectating from the Sidelines


 Regardless of how it goes down, life goes on.
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2/24/2012 7:14:21   
drinde
Member

Philosophy... deep.
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2/24/2012 9:45:08   
Lord Nub
Member

Wow yall for real...

Lol why is this such a problem?

So once all the other phases Beta, Gamma, Delta, and so on and so forth get a gift for their loyalty we will see all the same players complaining correct?

Jealousy is an amazing thing that seems to control so many lives...and over a bike that doesn't affect anything whatsoever?!?!? lool boy some of yall in for a treat when your introduced to the real world.

Hey maybe they will give all Betas level 35 Beta gear? Watcha think bout that? Is that complaint worthy? How many would counter that with giving Betas something useless that doesn't affect PvP? Bike perhaps?


AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 242
2/24/2012 10:08:03   
Remorse
Member

^ Personally I just dont see why if you gonna reward supporters, then why not reward them all?? Like all people who have supported a decent amount.

But I dont really care, Im not fussed if they wanna single certain groups out for rewards.

That is life I supose. But is it a good marcketing strategy? hardly.
Epic  Post #: 243
2/24/2012 10:11:09   
Fay Beeee
Member

I probably should not post this BUT what is wrong with you guys that are complaining all the time?
And about something as innocuous as a gift (with no stats).

We get a bike! Does it affect our play - NO
Does it affect your play - NO

So why on earth are you slagging people off?

Did I moan and whine when the Alpha, Elites, got their perks, - NO
Why didn't I moan. - Because I thought is was a nice idea for people that had taken the chance on a new game.
Would I have joined at that time? Not sure. But they did and so deserved their benefits.

Sorry guys, just had to step up to the mark.

I am not picking out individuals here because not all people MOAN for the same reasons.

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Epic  Post #: 244
2/24/2012 10:12:37   
SouL Prisoner
Member

@ remorse , agreed .


i agree founders helped the game , when they needed it badly!!

that doesn't mean now they dont need any more financial support any more from players , and if they do want , than y only gift the founders ???

@fay

No offense , but its easy for a "founder " to tell that , your view only support ur own kind . y doesn't any founder comes out and tell " Y r only v gifted , y not the rest who helped the game juzz lyk founders did , but only a bit late "

< Message edited by soulprisnerx -- 2/24/2012 10:18:14 >
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2/24/2012 10:14:09   
Fay Beeee
Member

In future years may be they will? Who knows? :)
Epic  Post #: 246
2/24/2012 10:21:37   
Remorse
Member

@ Fay,

Im sorry if I come across as complaining,

I try not to and am posting this on behalf of people who are complaining about this (more then me)

No one likes being left out,

That is obvious throughout everything in life.

I can understand why complainers must get anoying but is not hard to understand why they do it.

Sometimes it hard to understand why people complain even on the smallest things, everyone is diffrent, some people perhaps arent very fortunate finicialy therefore it is much more easier to understand why they complain, others may feel as though they are being underminded, as though yes they are given something obsilite but because they werent given it means there not good enough... etc.

Point is everyone is diffrent and just like they have to put up with getting left out, you guys have to put up with complaints.

Human nature I guess.

< Message edited by Remorse -- 2/24/2012 10:22:51 >
Epic  Post #: 247
2/24/2012 10:32:57   
Fay Beeee
Member

Remorse - It may be human nature, but is is surely not a good side of it.

AND just add, in my defence. Would I have complained if the Devs had said (for example)

"OK Guys, we have a Birthday coming up and we have decided to give ALL players a free bike. We were going to give it to only the Alpha /founder /elites for LONG TIME support of our game. For being there and able / lucky enough to get the 'right thing at the right time' BUT we have changed our minds.

So now you can ALL have it, how ever long you have been supporting game." \(this is not a quote from any where - just from me)

And my answer is NO, I would not have complained.
Epic  Post #: 248
2/24/2012 10:36:00   
MirageD
Member

is this really all about a bike??????
AQW Epic  Post #: 249
2/24/2012 10:39:22   
Ranloth
Banned


 Yes, MirageD. Surprissed?
AQ Epic  Post #: 250
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