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3/13/2012 7:08:00   
PivotalDisorder
Member

@Fay beee: was it me not being nice?

Skyhooks is basically just an abuser :) I told him as much myself. although he isn't to blame really. [Insert Hun Kingq beta weapons rant here]
Post #: 26
3/13/2012 7:22:24   
Goony
Constructive!


 @Arcanis, lmao :p

@ Pivotal and Lord Aegis, it's one of my alts... I never said it was any good, I said it was classic, but I was winning over 80%.. I changed it a bit now. Got rid of the heal and maxed rain...

@Fay, it's ok I'm a big boy a few jibes don't hurt...

A bit of fun for a change XD
Epic  Post #: 27
3/13/2012 7:34:44   
RageSoul
Member

@Goony
I didn't said it was bad , but it was a GG earlier .
AQW Epic  Post #: 28
3/13/2012 7:51:53   
Goony
Constructive!


 ^No problems, you did well... The best part is with high tech I get lots of deflects, plasma bolt is 79 and plasma rain is 68... I get another 50 energy per battle from reroute. Very good versus cyber hunters actually :)
Epic  Post #: 29
3/13/2012 7:54:21   
RageSoul
Member

^Thanks and you did well too :)
AQW Epic  Post #: 30
3/13/2012 9:33:05   
PivotalDisorder
Member

Yeah sorry Goony :) I wouldn't laugh if you got aids.
Post #: 31
3/13/2012 9:34:59   
Stabilis
Member

And... BOOM goes the dynamite.
AQ Epic  Post #: 32
3/13/2012 10:46:10   
TurkishIncubus
Member

My post is just related with bioborg i didnt replied the topic opener, this is just my idea about the bot

I cant belive this Robot im just LOL

Developers just nerfed again the most UP 2 class Merc and BH *LOL*, BHs most efficient build is str(and its kind of UP) is nerfed heavily LOL + Mercs got Double Strike-Field Commander-Intimidate-Berserker-Maul-Atom is all primary related. So half of the Merc skill tree also get nerf LOL again.

Also BM-TM-TLM(not much for TLM) get buff with this bot which are the most OP at this time , BM use Fireball and gun mainly and use berserker only to kill, TM use gun-aux-SC or Bolt-Rain, TLMs is kind of Venom-5 focus healer so they get a buff.

i wonder what balance team exactly do? They test What? How to spent their free varium?Why they didnt warn Developers?

But its fine i like being OP thx Balance Team/Developers ;)

< Message edited by TurkishIncubus -- 3/13/2012 10:53:07 >

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Epic  Post #: 33
3/13/2012 11:20:39   
Stabilis
Member

^

I read your post.

I find that the HUGEST issue with robots is that they become available to everyone, but specifically the specials that count as a "new" skill, these "new" skills are unprecedented and are EXTREMELY experimental which is a reason why robot specials can harm balance.
AQ Epic  Post #: 34
3/13/2012 11:20:51   
Remorse
Member

@ Turk
I have come into many STR BHs,


And to test things out I used the bioborg and it would seem that logically would help me destroy the STR BH build.

But in actul fact it does not, If anything it just gives the BH a better chance to win if they are willing to put in the thought.

WHY? because this bot is practically useles, Most STR builds get around it, and if they cant they azreal it, the only logical use I see to this bot is a counter for oped tanks since they would end up doing more damage to themsleves then what you ever could....


End result this bot has done nothing to STR BHs and mercs.

But I do agree that the devs/balance team arnt doing much to help balance,

In my opinion all fights are based around too powerful builds in either attack and/or defence.
And to truly get a variety and stratgy back into fights, all builds would need to be weakned NOT buffed to solve the issue, Buffing weaker classes does nothing but make balance issues worse at these points.

So the devs and balance team need to realise that they are gonna have to and SHOULD disapoint some players for the sake of DECENT BALANCE CHANGES!

< Message edited by Remorse -- 3/13/2012 11:24:31 >
Epic  Post #: 35
3/13/2012 11:21:45   
Stabilis
Member

^

Ninja power :)
AQ Epic  Post #: 36
3/13/2012 11:22:32   
gangster a
Member

^ got in here before it gets too serious
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 37
3/13/2012 11:37:28   
TurkishIncubus
Member

@Remorse

Well it help to me alot, I do Bolt-Thorn-Rain-Heal(Bolt if i can kill)-Bolt and win :D, if they use azrael bot they will lose 1 turn and my bolt will open again ;)

My main problem was they got high hp return from bloodlust and this bot gave me to decrease their hp even if they got Bloodlust :D

< Message edited by TurkishIncubus -- 3/13/2012 11:39:20 >
Epic  Post #: 38
3/13/2012 12:08:41   
Stabilis
Member

I have a suggestion:

My reflection idea was not fully administered, which is a shame because I had worked on making it balanced. What I suggested for Plasma Aura, which can be used for Thorns, is that Thorns will damage the attacker for 15% of THEIR maximum health, and not inflict damage if the attacker's Primary attack will do a minimum damage range of 3 or less.
AQ Epic  Post #: 39
3/13/2012 12:46:22   
Remorse
Member

@ Turk,

That is great what has happened is this bot has allowed YOUR build to be opened up to counters for a small amount of others.


ALL STR builds should have counters like this.

The problem is we think its natural now for Power build/STR builds to have very few counters and weakneses and the main disdavanatge being luck.

Were as most other builds and staretgies can be easily countered with a few major tank heal looping exceptions ;)


For example,

I can easily take down the caster mage build, Yet I can hardly ever without extreme luck take down the STR BM build when they start, no matter what straetgy I try.
Yet when you look at the blood mages battle history they actuly lose a fair bit BUT only because in battle with a build like there own the determinate is whoever starts win and luck is also agianst the majorly.

But just because they lose a fair bit to Luck doesnt make the EXTREMELY OPED.

P.S if anyone has found an effective STR blood mage killing technique which doesnt require speed. PLEASE tell me.

< Message edited by Remorse -- 3/13/2012 12:50:51 >
Epic  Post #: 40
3/13/2012 12:50:02   
Stabilis
Member

I would like to say a huge THANK YOU to the balance and development team for using the idea of reflection in EpicDuel.

I appreciate it.
AQ Epic  Post #: 41
3/13/2012 12:52:55   
Remorse
Member

^ They need to get it to work properly first.


In my eyes this bot is basically useless unless you use a build with damage power gaps, Such as support builds or casting builds.
Epic  Post #: 42
3/13/2012 13:23:21   
PivotalDisorder
Member

the idea of reflection was posted back in Alpha.......took em 2 years to implement :)
Post #: 43
3/13/2012 17:12:13   
supermasivo
Member

Ranged skills could make u die in few rounds mate ;)
Only usefull against "strike" based builds... just "maybe.
NT
Epic  Post #: 44
3/13/2012 17:15:51   
Stabilis
Member

Now that we know that reflection is underpowered lets implement Plasma Aura!
AQ Epic  Post #: 45
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