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11/28/2012 6:49:17   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


Didn't think too much about Caden's Staff to be honest, but it will be nice to see some older gear being used once again, such as Plasma ACP, and especially the Valentines Day weapons, i loved the auxes!
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 76
11/28/2012 9:11:02   
Stabilis
Member

If anyone thinks Beta weapons would be OP at 35 damage, I am jealous of whoever has Alpha weapons (Support included!).
AQ Epic  Post #: 77
11/28/2012 13:58:39   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


Depressed: Alpha Dude With him at the moment :)

< Message edited by Digital X -- 11/28/2012 13:59:13 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 78
11/28/2012 15:29:05   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


Digi how could you? I bet a ton of mages have used either of the Caden staffs like a ton of mercs have used Mjolnir
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 79
11/28/2012 16:03:31   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

@Titan_EpicDuel

Like the look of an item, but wish it could have better stats or more damage? In Omega ANY item can be improved to level cap!

:O
they took my idea about enhancing items (along with compensation of stats and damage for that lvl) to the player's current lvl? :O nice
*feels proud*

lets see how balanced it is, i hope it has a specific format for how much stats and damage each lvl should have, like i suggested.
improvement indeed :D

EDIT: see Here for the suggestion i made about being able to change the lvl of items.

< Message edited by goldslayer1 -- 11/28/2012 16:10:43 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 80
11/28/2012 16:48:25   
legion of souls
Member

@goldslayer1


I remember you quit, i can imagine you coming back now? with the new enhancement system.

Your reason was that you found it hard to keep up with paying.. now you can just enhance your old stuff.

_____________________________

AQW Epic  Post #: 81
11/28/2012 16:50:32   
Xendran
Member

Looks solid. As long as you do the stats properly (FLAT ARMOR IS A NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO IN TURN BASED) then this could work out very well.

Also, i HEAVILY approve of getting rid of ability overlap, i've been pushing for that for a while.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 82
11/28/2012 16:59:53   
goldslayer1
Member

@legion of souls.
no, its more or so having to delete my old outdated items just so i can buy new ones.

and how some items, which look super epic like frost bite, can no longer be used in terms of competition to items like delta claws.
and also so that old art doesn't go to waste. maybe this way the staff can take it down several notches on releasing new weps, and focus on game play quality and replay value.

< Message edited by goldslayer1 -- 11/28/2012 17:01:01 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 83
11/28/2012 20:30:30   
legion of souls
Member

quote:

and how some items, which look super epic like frost bite, can no longer be used in terms of competition to items like delta claws.


The new enhancement system will make items like frostbite, be able to compete again. :)


Couldn't you have just bought more bag slots though? :o
AQW Epic  Post #: 84
11/28/2012 20:37:22   
goldslayer1
Member

@legion of souls
:D i still have my frostbites and frostbane.

but back then i only deleted my most worthless items. this includes some guns, 2 auxes, several armors, a couple swords, couple of claws, and a couple of clubs.
AQW Epic  Post #: 85
11/28/2012 21:57:01   
Vegafire
Member

Being level 35 and constantly up to date with gears would there be point in me raising my sidearm 1 level? the only thing that needs raised, is there going to be added stats to every current item when scaled including the already current max level items? because if older weapons are getting so many enhancements when scaled to your level would that not overpower them in contrast to already maxed items?

If so what would be the cost of raising the items and is it going to run on a system like Enhancement slots? start of small from the lower levels and raise the total cost and initial difference with each level?

Not to be a spoiler but i need to know that the money i have spent so far isnt going to waste as we progress through the game

like i read your suggestion goldslayer1 but my armour is currently 20 initial enhancements and then + 10 and thats level 35, would that be changed to 35 enhancements + 10 or 25 +10 making the maximum enhancements 35 with purchased extras? same with my sword will that be scaled to 27 or 37 initital enhancements? (as you suggested the swords have extra stats as they always have due to the fact that they restrict the skills a player can cast/ use)

Thank you,

Vegafire

Also with the release of this update could the focus system not be "scrapped" as people have requested but raised so that robots do not become litterally useless in battles, add a extra stage of focus making 6

1 - all stats 20 - 24
2 - all stats 25 - 29
3 - all stats 30 - 34
4 - all stats 35 - 39
5 - all stats 40 - 44
6 - all stats 45 +

which would raise the maximum damage acheaveable +36 but it would not be possible for lower levels to do so without having lower HP or Energy making the last levels of focus bassed around higher levels, its not overpoweing the robots in a sence as they will only do slightly more damage which is overcome by the new update as stats will be boosted on nearly every player dramatically and those who can acheive a 6 focus build will normally have higher HP anyway (Just a thought)

also with concerns that people can just buy the lower level gear and boost it like platinums pride ect im pretty sure unless your near that level its worth your time buying the higher level gear inititally as the costs of boosting it would make a greater difference so it would cost you more to buy lower level gear and then boost it to maximum level rather than buying the higher level and boosting it 1 - 2 levels. im not sure but i think Titan and rabblefroth will implement it so that it will not cost less to get the lower level gear and buff it, althought the cost wont be much different. i think they will make it cost less to boost the item you already have than buying and boosting its higher level counterpart.

For those whom i have confused heres an example

Level cap gets raised to 36
Platinums pride 25 - 35
25 - 8000 credits 1075 varium
35 - 14000 credits 1675 varium

it could take 400 varium to boost from 35 - 36
and it could cost 1100 varium to boost from 25 - 36

Meaning it would be cheaper to get the 35 and boost it but if you have the 25 already it would be cheaper to boost it than to buy the level 35 counterpart and boost it up.

Thanks again,

Vegafire

< Message edited by deathshadowslayer -- 11/28/2012 22:38:41 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 86
11/28/2012 23:52:07   
goldslayer1
Member

@deathshadow
increase the lvl of ur lvl 34 gun to lvl 35, would cost less than buying a lvl 35 weapon and enhancing it.
it also increases ur damage, and most likely ur stat total.

so increasing lvl of a weapon u have > buying a completely new lvl 35 wep just for a single extra damage or stat boost.
AQW Epic  Post #: 87
11/29/2012 0:04:37   
Vegafire
Member

I think i would be better off waiting to see if Dage is going to restock his shelves first, those guns are epic and i was away whilst they were in stock :P
AQW Epic  Post #: 88
11/29/2012 1:23:48   
fhiz
Member

I have a concern with stat heavy weapons like my favorite gun, Kurz Elite. Level 33, damage 31, 29 total stats.

Where as other level 33 varium guns (machine blaster, dark star, jade magnum) have 33 damage and 26 total stats.

My question is would it stay stat heavy? If I boost it to level 35 would just get +4 damage so it has the layout of every other level 35 gun(35 damage, 29 stats) , or would it get +2 damage and +3 stats making it a buffed version of the stat heavy gun I paid for?



Either way I'm in favor of being able to buff up old gear and I genuinely feel that omega will be a big step forward for the game.
Post #: 89
11/29/2012 9:42:28   
goldslayer1
Member

@Fhiz
thats why there should be a set format put in place to prevent issues like these.

see Here for the suggestion i made.
AQW Epic  Post #: 90
11/29/2012 10:58:31   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


When Omega hits ED, what older weapons will you guys start to use again? either for nostalgia or for fun?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 91
11/29/2012 11:58:45   
Ranloth
Banned


@fhiz
They will deal with them via stat and damage models so they won't be abuseable for their very high stats or very high damage (case for lower Level weapons). So no suggestions are needed either. If we will see the issue, there's balance section and we can inform them there. :)
AQ Epic  Post #: 92
11/29/2012 13:00:22   
Angels Holocaust
Member

I'm really looking forward to re using my basic claws.
Post #: 93
11/29/2012 13:06:38   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


@Angels, Apprentice Staff for me, that'll be quite funny actually.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 94
11/29/2012 13:22:59   
Angels Holocaust
Member

I might just wear lv 35 noob armors for the fun of it. Looks like a noob stings like a bee.
Post #: 95
11/29/2012 13:23:04   
Xenii
Member

Caden's wrath for me!
Epic  Post #: 96
11/29/2012 15:19:55   
  RabbleFroth
Member

We'll have some more information coming soon on some of this stuff, but for now I just wanted to say that weapons such as Beta Gear will not become overpowered by upgrading them.

Keep up the discussion, I love seeing all the speculations! ;D
Post #: 97
11/29/2012 15:51:59   
Xendran
Member

Please for the love of god make defence and resistance a % of damage reduction.

< Message edited by Xendran -- 11/29/2012 15:52:16 >
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 98
11/29/2012 21:31:07   
midnight santa
Member

rablefroth ur best admin ever, ur better to titan and nw and charfade

ur ideas is rly rly awsome and pls pls do more new stufs
Epic  Post #: 99
11/29/2012 22:43:45   
Rindera
Member

If bought enhancements are going away, what happens to the people who bought enhancements?
Refund or just nothing?
Epic  Post #: 100
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