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2/15/2013 6:23:47

FrostWolv
Member

review:

Valentines Day Release:
Main positive feature of this game (who doesn't like new releases)

Promotional Weapons:
Too OverPowered ..... definitely will DESTROY balance .....

again it will take couple of months to fix it. How so? they will not fix it right now to make people buy this OP core weapon which will take a month .... then they will fix it

Promotional Package: Give me reason why should I buy it

Weapon Art: Nice ... can see the weapons pumping

Personal View for Weapon: Wont buy it ... if I again started losing badly just because of these OP cores ... Will stop playing ED for some time till it again get some % towards proper balance

Final Feedback: Devs again valuing business > game

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2/15/2013 6:25:42

comicalbike
Member

TRizZzCENTRINO yes i agree but its the same problems we had in the past thats going backwards we should not start a new game with the same problems and i also agree they work very hard the way i see it is that maybe they have never been fixed is because the cant fix them

Epic	Post #: 52

2/15/2013 6:27:01

Drianx
Member

quote:

Am I the only one who thinks both those skill cores are gonna have devastating effects on balance...

No, I do too, but they have to make money after all - that's what our comrade Trizz says as well.

quote:

aren't you happy that varium lasts longer than before?

No, I am not happy because I bought a useless 10k pack that I only got for the Omega weapons and Yeti promos - that are pretty useless in my humble opinion, but that's not the point here.

They should make an option to buy ONLY the promos, and no varium, for the price of a 5k pack. Now you see my point? I don't need the varium, I only need the promos, because they force me to pay for them - again my humble opinion.

< Message edited by Drianx -- 2/15/2013 6:28:28 >

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Post #: 53

2/15/2013 6:28:00

TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

@FrostWolv if they don't value business then there won't be a game for you to play, if they don't care about money, then ED would end up as a single/2 player game with no art/event updates like the games you find here: http://www.miniclip.com/games/en/

< Message edited by TRizZzCENTRINO -- 2/15/2013 6:30:00 >

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Post #: 54

2/15/2013 6:28:52

comicalbike
Member

yes as i said all along balance comes first

Epic	Post #: 55

2/15/2013 6:30:04

Drianx
Member

@Trizz
Do not misjudge me, I've spent quite a lot on EpicDuel, because I've always wanted to encourage the effort. But I want some value for my money as well, and there's nothing wrong about this. I hate the feeling of throwing money out the window.

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Post #: 56

2/15/2013 6:31:35

FrostWolv
Member

@ TRizZzCENTRINO

We know ED want money .... thats y the game had varium and non-varium players

Its just that now people doesn't have a sufficient reason to buy a 10K varium package

quote:

@FrostWolv if they don't value business then there won't be a game for you to play, if they don't care about money, then ED would end up as a single/2 player game with no art/event updates like the games you find here: http://www.miniclip.com/games/en/

Well we were and we are here to buy weapons with real money

But the way of business by tricking us, providing us less and destroying balance is what making me upset

< Message edited by FrostWolv -- 2/15/2013 6:34:20 >

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2/15/2013 6:32:11

TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

quote:

They should make an option to buy ONLY the promos, and no varium, for the price of a 5k pack. Now you see my point? I don't need the varium, I only need the promos, because they force me to pay for them - again my humble opinion.

it can be discussed and arranged, if it means that they can satisfy players and keep the game up and running at the same time.

quote:

Its just that now people doesn't have a sufficient reason to buy a 10K varium package

the team cannot be underestimated, they are well trained in business matters, if they feel that varium sales is dropping, then they would add more uses and purposes in buying varium.

quote:

But the way of business by tricking us, providing us less and destroying balance is what making me upset

how do you know that it is destroying balance if it haven't been released yet? if it does ruin balance then we just have to remind them to test or fix it the next time they decided to make a new core.

< Message edited by TRizZzCENTRINO -- 2/15/2013 6:38:24 >

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Post #: 58

2/15/2013 6:37:58

the final hour
Banned

i actually really want the weapons but i wont buy the 10k varium no matter what . i just cannot justify spending so much money on a few weapons when the varium that comes with it is as good as worthless and everything that matters to me that i can do with varium i can do with credits. i just cant justify it so no ty to the promo. not at $50

Post #: 59

2/15/2013 6:41:21

Ranloth
Banned

I did post something regarding Varium purchases; how to make them more appealing to buy (not just $50); bigger profit if people will buy lower packages as well as large; good for the game.

Incentive to purchase Varium? I, personally, see 10K Varium package being the only one with items as wrong. Not everyone have $50 on their hands and buying Varium just because you need it doesn't often happen, unless it's low amount (talking about the past and now). To make incentive higher - to buy Varium and not just $50 promo - they should split how it works, for example:

*using Azrael promo*
($5) 500 Varium package - N/A
($10) 1,250 Varium package - N/A (if there was a Bot, it'd be good here since Bots aren't necessary yet come in handy)
($20) 2,500 Varium package - choice between Aux and Gun
($35) 5,000 Varium package - 2 Swords
($50) 10,000 Varium package - Azrael Set (2 Swords, Gun, Aux)

Basically, you get what you want and not necessarily have to get $50 promo. $50 is still the best since you get everything (unless you want to spend $75 separately). I'd love to get the Azrael Gun but I don't need the promo (all of it), so I wouldn't mind buying $20 package and get my Gun, whilst saving some Varium for later. Also, that kind of system could allow random promo items to be added into lower packages (not official promo, just a bonus item that's limited), such as a good looking Bike to $10 or a Bot. Just an incentive to buy some Varium.

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Post #: 60

2/15/2013 6:41:30

comicalbike
Member

TRizZzCENTRINO we have had this problem for last 3 years

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2/15/2013 6:44:09

TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

Trans has a good solution

quote:

TRizZzCENTRINO we have had this problem for last 3 years

yes i understand your frustration, perhaps i can make the devs listen more to the player's opinions.

< Message edited by TRizZzCENTRINO -- 2/15/2013 6:51:47 >

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Post #: 62

2/15/2013 6:47:02

the final hour
Banned

@ trans in order to get the set you would end up paying more then $50 . unless you just went for the 10k option. varium doesnt have enough value to command that price anymore.

Post #: 63

2/15/2013 6:48:34

TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

@above still it gives you choices, you can pick the ones you like.

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Post #: 64

2/15/2013 6:50:17

Drianx
Member

@Trans

Still with what you suggest there isn't much choice - you basically have to choose between options that are priced differently. You have to choose between a cheaper and a more expensive one.

My opinion is that we shouldn't have a single tree of increasingly expensive packages, but multiple trees - real alternatives. Like having more options for 25$ for example. Varium or weapons. That's what they tried to do with keys, but it failed because they mostly sticked to the same increasing value concept.

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Post #: 65

2/15/2013 6:54:24

TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

@above seems like a good solution too

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Post #: 66

2/15/2013 6:56:27

Ranloth
Banned

It's better than what we have now, you don't have to get $50 promo to get the item you want (which could be a mere Gun). More appealing to casual players or those who need some Varium and would like an item, rather than $50 package that may be too much for them (whether it's Varium or the cost of it).

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Post #: 67

2/15/2013 6:58:29

FrostWolv
Member

quote:

@ TRizZzCENTRINO

how do you know that it is destroying balance if it haven't been released yet? if it does ruin balance then we just have to remind them to test or fix it the next time they decided to make a new core.

though its an assumption ... many of us do know it will be OP

Believe me if this thing isn't changed ... then we will again see the following stuffs :

1. Players will get to know the weapon is OP
2. Many varium Players will buy it
3. Rest will complain in forum
4. Devs will reply after a week
5. Weapons will not be fixed for more few weeks ... by this more people might buy or simply stop playing
6. After the end of the Event when new Event will come these weapons will be fixed

But in omega 10k package is now a no-worth package .... so lesser amount of people might purchase it

quote:

if it does ruin balance then we just have to remind them to test or fix it the next time they decided to make a new core.

thats the reasons y we are here in forum ?

Epic	Post #: 68

2/15/2013 7:03:02

Remorse
Member

They could just offer a High varium only cost in game.

Then next year round offer it for slightly lower varium and with a credit option.

Problem with putting it in promo's only is no one will get to spend their varium since it will keep stockpiling.

Even if they offered a really high price like 1500-2000 varium for a single weapon in game then at least players will get a chance to spend.

Epic	Post #: 69

2/15/2013 7:08:34

TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

quote:

if it does ruin balance then we just have to remind them to test or fix it the next time they decided to make a new core.

thats the reasons y we are here in forum ?

yes of course. lol

quote:

though its an assumption ... many of us do know it will be OP

Believe me if this thing isn't changed ... then we will again see the following stuffs :

1. Players will get to know the weapon is OP
2. Many varium Players will buy it
3. Rest will complain in forum
4. Devs will reply after a week
5. Weapons will not be fixed for more few weeks ... by this more people might buy or simply stop playing
6. After the end of the Event when new Event will come these weapons will be fixed

But in omega 10k package is now a no-worth package .... so lesser amount of people might purchase it

complaints are no help to the game, people do not understand that, all they say is "OMG this is OP and it needs to be nerfed!" or "I'm not going to play ED anymore because the skill core is OP" saying these won't help, informative feedbacks will help the devs more, once they get the info they needed from the players then they can get to work on balancing it.

< Message edited by TRizZzCENTRINO -- 2/15/2013 7:17:06 >

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Post #: 70

2/15/2013 7:12:32

FrostWolv
Member

@ above:

If they could make both skill passive and give it 15% chance to do what they are made to do

Epic	Post #: 71

2/15/2013 7:22:31

the final hour
Banned

is it just me thats confused at the situation .

they buffed none variums
debuffed varium
made almost everything avalable to both var and none var alike
yet the varium prices stayed the same

am i the only one who finds this strange ?

Post #: 72

2/15/2013 7:26:38

Drianx
Member

quote:

complaints are no help to the game, people do not understand that, all they say is "OMG this is OP and it needs to be nerfed!" or "I'm not going to play ED anymore because the skill core is OP" saying these won't help, informative feedbacks will help the devs more, once they get the info they needed from the players then they can get to work on balancing it.

Generally speaking, the right behavior is to take all feedback into consideration, no matter if those are angry or not, or if they know how to express it or not.

Because, if all your customers are angry, and you ignore them all because they are angry and don't speak it out softly, this means you ignore all their feedback, and you're only listening to your happy customers.

< Message edited by Drianx -- 2/15/2013 7:27:06 >

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Post #: 73

2/15/2013 7:40:03

comicalbike
Member

the final hour no you got it wrong we get less now you don't get the credits now with the varium package so its gone up in price

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2/15/2013 7:45:31

Striker44
Member

New aux core is same special Azarel Borg have it ?

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