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2/25/2013 21:01:22   
Cyberbeast10
Member

Luck. My key to victory.
Anyways, this post is really about when they will re-balance cards?

Refresh has an obscene cost, considering you still have to pay for the Shield card.
Characters with over-excessive 1 Attack Cards still lack a lot in every department.
Frost Bite still sucks.
Power Strike is outclassed.

Every other skill still has some uses, but these 3 are quite horrible to justify them for any use whatsoever, except discard fodder. You can't justify bad cards as a method of "balance"; maybe lack of synergy, but having bad cards is a really bad way to balance, IMO.
Also, can fixed HP come in until level ranges are established? HP gaps ruin the fun for everyone.
AQW Epic  Post #: 151
2/25/2013 21:04:02   
BiasedBass
Member

Remember: This is still early early beta. I'm sure tiers will come in the future
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 152
2/25/2013 21:07:40   
Cyberbeast10
Member

Hey, never too early to do things right, right?
AQW Epic  Post #: 153
2/25/2013 21:12:02   
Beck
Member

@almanac
XD I still can't believe I won that round. Great game!
AQW  Post #: 154
2/25/2013 21:13:45   
almanac01
Member

Actually, Power Strike's pretty awesome.
I think Life Drain and Ice Orb are the ones that need fixing.

For example, Ice Orb can do 20 damage, AT MAXIMUM, and costs 22 energy and 3 - 5 card slots.
4 x 5 damage cards does the same for 16 energy and 4 card slots.
That is so underpowered I don't even.
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 155
2/25/2013 21:14:54   
ValkyrieKnight
Member

I'm not going to get into a rant about card balances but I think incinerate is terribly overpowered, its suppose to cost 6 energy but all you need is 6 energy, it actually takes 0, you can make a 1 damage card turn into 7 and it only cost 1 energy to do it. Very easy to abuse with unblockable 1 damage / 5 damage cards.
AQW Epic  Post #: 156
2/25/2013 21:17:14   
daichi
Member

I cant wait foe elemental weakness.

that might help with a lot of this stuff.
DF AQW  Post #: 157
2/25/2013 21:19:21   
EpicCoconut
Member

Yeah, Ice orb isn't effiecent with energy, however, it only takes 3 cards to deal 20dmg instead of the 4 card 5 hit.

EDIT
@below: True :/ Unless you you can freeze your opp. Maybe they should increase shield amount?
@daichi: E. Res=Quicker farming for certain elements xD

< Message edited by EpicCoconut -- 2/25/2013 21:22:52 >
Post #: 158
2/25/2013 21:20:54   
almanac01
Member

Yes Epic, however, it takes a minimum of 2 turns, in which the enemy could break your shields, rendering Ice Orb useless.
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 159
2/25/2013 21:22:41   
Lemonus
Member

@alma OR
with 10/15 Shield
Opponent Charges
You have 20 Energy
Ice Wall/5 Block + Ice Orb

@Epic You'd pretty much prefer using a Freeze in favor of Shatters over Ice Orbs though.
@below Thrak

< Message edited by Lemonus -- 2/25/2013 21:25:39 >
DF AQW  Post #: 160
2/25/2013 21:24:00   
superbat67
Member

What is the best orc character from last week?
Post #: 161
2/25/2013 21:24:15   
daichi
Member

Ice orb is fine, a decent attack for a defense based element

@superbat thrak.
DF AQW  Post #: 162
2/25/2013 21:24:39   
Cyberbeast10
Member

quote:

Actually, Power Strike's pretty awesome.
I think Life Drain and Ice Orb are the ones that need fixing.

For example, Ice Orb can do 20 damage, AT MAXIMUM, and costs 22 energy and 3 - 5 card slots.
4 x 5 damage cards does the same for 16 energy and 4 card slots.
That is so underpowered I don't even.

The problem is that Power Strike has a ratio of 1.14 while standard 5 Attack cards have 1.25. Heh, even Power Flow for Water has 1.15, which is still better.
Ice Orb, admittedly has a large cost problem, in addition, you didn't even mention the possibility of it being lowered from attacks.
I think Life Drain has a slight justification in the sense that it does a Heal and 5 Attack card at once. I think that justifies the additional cost.

Also, yeah, Incinerate is insane. Although, I only listed those that were underpowered and not those that were overpowered, seeing as the "brokeness" of certain cards is suppose to be the trademark of certain elements.
AQW Epic  Post #: 163
2/25/2013 21:25:01   
EpicCoconut
Member

@superbat: Thrak.
Ice Orb big dmg is best used as a finisher IMO.
Post #: 164
2/25/2013 21:25:32   
Dread97
Member

yay finally got orc axeman :D now to level him up XD

how are the rest of you guys doing?

< Message edited by Dread97 -- 2/25/2013 21:26:33 >
Post #: 165
2/25/2013 21:26:22   
superbat67
Member

thx
Post #: 166
2/25/2013 21:29:03   
daichi
Member

@dread my thrak is level 17

@below searching for peon helped a lot.

< Message edited by daichi -- 2/25/2013 21:31:56 >
DF AQW  Post #: 167
2/25/2013 21:29:45   
EpicCoconut
Member

I hope the coders do a bug squash soon. And not all cards are going to energy efficent, some cards are going to sacrifice energy efficency for raw dmg.

@daichi: That quick? He was only discovered yesterday!

< Message edited by EpicCoconut -- 2/25/2013 21:30:08 >
Post #: 168
2/25/2013 21:35:21   
Lemonus
Member

quote:

Ice Orb big dmg is best used as a finisher IMO.

Ice AI says hi.
Using Ice Orb with 0 Shield = FREAKIN' GENIUS

@Below He's a pure offense Neutral char. Some say he's pretty good.

< Message edited by Lemonus -- 2/25/2013 21:37:17 >
DF AQW  Post #: 169
2/25/2013 21:35:27   
superbat67
Member

thrak is that good?
keep fighting orc warriors
found him..... wish me luck

< Message edited by superbat67 -- 2/25/2013 21:40:09 >
Post #: 170
2/25/2013 21:36:58   
so0meone
Member

PvP sure is slow tonight...

EDIT: Thrak is really good, yeah. It's deck's on the wiki if you want to take a look.

Completely random: I have White Rabbit by Egypt Central stuck in my head XD

< Message edited by so0meone -- 2/25/2013 21:37:25 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 171
2/25/2013 21:38:05   
daichi
Member

@superbat he's decent, a lot of cards though...

the reason mine leveled so fast is because I was off work yesterday and got the short shift today,that means
massive hours spent farming

DF AQW  Post #: 172
2/25/2013 21:39:05   
ValkyrieKnight
Member

Actually when you start fighting higher tier characters you quickly realize how limited Ice orb is. Numerous times It sat in my card panel just waiting to be used with more than 10 damage its just not possible, you'll constantly be hit by your opponent rendering it useless most of the time. Sure you can maybe get off 10 damage but for 10 energy? It's not likely to happen without freeze and some shield cards in advance. Freeze is required to make Ice orb decent which imo its pretty underwhelming.
AQW Epic  Post #: 173
2/25/2013 21:41:27   
so0meone
Member

I'm also voting against Ice Orb on this one. It's useful for PvE but you won't get much mileage in PvP
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 174
2/25/2013 21:41:28   
EpicCoconut
Member

I don't use Ice orb often in Pvp, however when I was maxing out my Xmas, I managed to use it fairly often.
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