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3/15/2013 18:46:16   
King Helios
Member

Hello EDGD.

Recently, I got the 10K Varium Pack with Botanical Battlegear E and P. As a 2v2-themed Tactical Mercenary, I want to give my opinions on this.

The Art - I think the club looks good. It looks like I am wielding a broken-up flower; really hardcore-looking. I mean, I am beating someone WITH A FLOWER. xD Also, the petals and the pulsing energy in the middle looks nice.

The Skill - It is ok. I have yet to find any Support build, but when i do, I will pwn. xD

What do you guys think?
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 1
3/15/2013 18:58:39   
Oba
Member

As a support merc, I dont find it useful at all. I am considering getting the azrael promo, as it have a pretty nice core on the aux - for a support user, but this...flower promo? Nope. I consider it a waste of a turn to use that core. If support still increased the chance of deflections it might have been worth.. "it", but now it just increase crit rate (and crits got a nerf today) and aux dmg.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 2
3/15/2013 19:32:47   
King Helios
Member

The only way it helps me is as a tank (STR tank)
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 3
3/15/2013 21:49:16   
TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

it was charfade's first promo item so i think it looks great.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 4
3/15/2013 21:57:16   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 I think it looks fine, but I feel the core is vastly underpowered. Unless you're absolutely abusing support, it's only gonna buff you're support by around 15 for 3 turns, and this takes an entire turn to use. If you're abusing support with around 100-120 base support, it'll still only buff it by 30-35, which isn't that great and still not worth it given the turn required to cast the core.
Epic  Post #: 5
3/15/2013 21:57:45   
King Helios
Member

Finally made a build with it :)

High Support and HP - Boost, Aux, Artillery. For longer battles, Aux, Boost, Artillery, ___, Aux (boost still on there :])

@exploding - I'm pretty sure it operates on total support.

< Message edited by King Helios -- 3/15/2013 21:58:20 >
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 6
3/16/2013 0:26:33   
Clutch
Member

Looks wise, they're very nice, great job charfade! :)

However battle wise, I found the rare core rather weak :/. 30% is a very small buff especially since it is only 30% of the base support, so unless you spam support, you won't get much support and I feel like its not worth using a turn on. That along with the current levels of diminishing returns on support, and it becomes very ineffective core to have :(. I would suggest make the support gain based on total support or make it a higher percentage of base support.

And most importantly, there should definitely be a sword version!!!
AQ Epic  Post #: 7
3/16/2013 0:50:11   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 in the picture it says base support, but I have yet to see the core in action so I may be wrong.

EDIT: Saw it, it's off of base support

< Message edited by Exploding Penguin -- 3/16/2013 0:57:21 >
Epic  Post #: 8
3/16/2013 1:01:50   
King Helios
Member

Yep, it is.
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
3/16/2013 2:27:53   
Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned


 Bought it, looked at it, dumped it in the inventory as rarity points
Epic  Post #: 10
3/16/2013 3:16:23   
Drianx
Member

*ahem*
So I was right.
Maybe it would be better if it striked for 85% damage and also cast the buff.

< Message edited by Drianx -- 3/16/2013 14:56:44 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 11
3/16/2013 11:13:08   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 @drianx: I agree, that would put it on par with other promo active cores such as omega override (which recently got buffed to 30%, yay!)
Epic  Post #: 12
3/16/2013 11:30:19   
SouL Prisoner
Member

To be honest, i like this promo more than previous (Bionic Battlegear)

Anyone here using claws?? just wanna see them :)
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 13
3/16/2013 12:23:36   
Midnightsoul
Member

Lol, it looks kinda nice...but when I read the core description, I backed off.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 14
3/16/2013 14:18:57   
The Astral Fury
Member

I wouldn't even make it an 85% damage strike because thecores not even worth lowering your damage to get what 2 extra bonus damage on you aux make it a 100% damage on strike, however this may be OP so feel free to call my mistake. Honestly though I see this core being so awful I mean even the Omega weapons (Before buff) weren't this bad atleast they striked for 100% damage with a lowering effect not wasting a whole turn to get a whee bit damage on your aux that won't make a difference and getting a small chnace (after crit nerf) to crit.


The arts amazing, but this core like c'mon I want to buy it it's just the core seems so pointless, yes you can tell me "than don't buy it" and sure if they don't buff the core I won't, but I would like to purchase this.

Anyway on a scale from one to 10 I'd rate it a 2.
DF AQW  Post #: 15
3/16/2013 14:28:44   
Stabilis
Member

Does anyone think it should give more Support points for using an entire turn?
AQ Epic  Post #: 16
3/16/2013 14:34:27   
zion
Member

Think about a 2v2 match where someone boosts a sup abusing partner - they don't waste a turn and their aux and multi do insane damage and higher crit chance.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 17
3/16/2013 14:41:12   
The Astral Fury
Member

Lol a 30% base chnace isn't really nocticiable even if you have high support.
DF AQW  Post #: 18
3/16/2013 14:45:32   
veneeria
Member

It is fine as an promo, everything else recently is just too op. (azrael's promos are the latest examples). If anything, the claw versions are too aweomse. O_O It gives really the idea of ripping the opponent apart.

Edit: Though i wished the "grown" made you a bit Bigger than the current size.

< Message edited by veneeria -- 3/16/2013 14:47:08 >
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 19
3/16/2013 14:48:08   
drekon
Retired ED Guest Artist


 The graphics are good, and the Skill Core is alright until you meet an opponent with a Delta weapon. This is the primary reason why I don't feel the need to get it.

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Epic  Post #: 20
3/16/2013 14:48:36   
The Astral Fury
Member

^True, but c'mon it could atleast be a decent core this one's just... ARGHHHH.
DF AQW  Post #: 21
3/16/2013 14:54:32   
Cookielord12
Member

It's not great as nobody seems to be using it. I have not seen a single person with them.

Well, it's ok, but has been overshadowed by Azrael.

< Message edited by Cookielord12 -- 3/16/2013 14:57:00 >
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 22
3/16/2013 15:55:28   
Ranloth
Banned


 Weak core? Seems like people have already gotten used to broken cores. Cores are NOT meant to give you a major advantage, they are supposed to aid you in battle but not to the point where you're guaranteed to win. Delta weapon, Omega, and now this promo are prime examples that Cores can be good but don't have to be (and shouldn't be) powerful to the point where you have to nerf them (Azrael).
AQ Epic  Post #: 23
3/16/2013 15:57:22   
ansh0
Member

^What he said.
Epic  Post #: 24
3/16/2013 16:07:01   
The Astral Fury
Member

I understand your point Trans, but this really isn't worth the waste of a turn just to get a tad support buff that's all I think.
DF AQW  Post #: 25
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