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3/16/2013 16:08:44   
Ranloth
Banned


 Then don't buy it. Don't expect cores to have game-changing effect such as Azrael had (and still somewhat does). If it doesn't suit your build, don't get it.
AQ Epic  Post #: 26
3/16/2013 16:17:40   
The Astral Fury
Member

It should atleast be somehwhat helpul, not game changing bu helpful this isn't all that helpful and since it's a promo package and all it should atleast be worth the use.

Anyway it's not like I care wether it get's buffed or not (I won't be buying it), but I think the people who bought it should have a little bit of a better core.

I understand where your coming from though I think Azreals has given us such high expectations for cores lol

< Message edited by The Astral Fury -- 3/16/2013 16:19:00 >
DF AQW  Post #: 27
3/16/2013 16:23:49   
Ranloth
Banned


 Only because it's a promo, it shouldn't have more power over other cores either. With Support build (around 100 Support), you will get 30 Support boost which isn't too bad. Or perhaps the problem is with usefulness of Support, or rather the lack of; doesn't improve Heal, no deflections, etc. If it had those, perhaps more players would like it.
AQ Epic  Post #: 28
3/16/2013 16:27:11   
Drianx
Member

If you have 100+ support, the damage progression at that amount is too slow to matter.
AQW Epic  Post #: 29
3/16/2013 16:45:49   
rayniedays56
Member

I'm buying it next week. Only because...


IT SO PURDY :D:D
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 30
3/16/2013 18:36:56   
King Helios
Member

I found a way to incorporate it into my build. If I am going to rage soon, but not yet and most everything is on cool down (e.g. aux + Malf), I will buff my Support, then Malf/Aux. it has the added benefit of increasing the debuff/damage and crit chance of the aforementioned attacks.

The skill requires...well...skill.
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 31
3/17/2013 1:29:55   
Clutch
Member

@Trans
I agree that the initial azrael weps were too strong, but the devs realized this and changed it the very next week. And I think it's safe to assume that the devs undershot this core ability a tad bit. But remember, cores are still a brand new element of the game, so they can keep moving forward and learn what works and what doesn't. As for this core, I definitely think a buff of some sort is necessary because currently it is not on par with the other weapon cores. No one is asking for an unbeatable core, but I do feel the promos should provide a slight advantage than those who don't have them in battle.

< Message edited by Clutch -- 3/17/2013 12:11:47 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 32
3/17/2013 4:10:58   
Jekyll
Member

Hmmm... Now that ED has shifted its focus to getting weapons for their looks, this new set of weapons doesn't appear to be as good as some of the other weapons already in-game. Quite a big difference between this and previous promotional offers, but still, kudos to the ED team for coming up with a new set of weapons every month thus far. It's hard, ideas will run dry, but I expect that future items will look better, so no worries there.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 33
3/17/2013 4:44:30   
Remorse
Member

I agree with trans,


I think some cores are still far too strong and should be nerfed to a standard across all cores regardless of promo status.
Epic  Post #: 34
3/17/2013 5:12:17   
Nylaris
Member

I reckon the core should be a passive. That would be fun. :)
Epic  Post #: 35
3/17/2013 6:43:43   
Hottie19967
Banned

 

 Its a waste of money they should atleast increase the percentage of support buffed
Post #: 36
3/17/2013 6:48:35   
kosmo
Member
 

 I like the promos(extremly cool looking) and i m happy they brought in game something that s alrady balanced and doesnt need any adjustment.+30% support looks very good to me and can help you in so many situations without giving you insane advangtage.
Epic  Post #: 37
3/17/2013 6:49:02   
TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

@hottie if it is a waste of money then don't get it

< Message edited by TRizZzCENTRINO -- 3/17/2013 16:59:54 >
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 38
3/17/2013 9:59:04   
King Helios
Member

I agree with Nylaris, but if that happens, lower the % to about 15%.
AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 39
3/17/2013 10:34:36   
ansh0
Member

It's fine as it is.

People are used to OP cores like the ones on Azrael gear.

It's balanced.
Epic  Post #: 40
3/17/2013 11:04:42   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 Does that classify Omega Override as OP, as well as meteor strike? Those cores are easily superior to growth serum. Even if you did have high enough base support for growth serum to give you a significant boost, you'd have less overall endurance and it probably wouldn't even be worth the turn at all. The core itself has no practical use, so I don't really think its balanced.
Epic  Post #: 41
3/17/2013 12:02:49   
SMGS
Member

As mentioned in the forum rules - financial discussion is not allowed. If you feel the skill core of this item could use a buff or a nerf, please bring your discussions to the Balance Forum.
Post #: 42
3/18/2013 23:06:15   
Giras Wolfe
Member

Using it is like using level 1 technician or reflex boost.

It should also do like 70% unblockable strike damage when applied
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 43
3/19/2013 0:34:09   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 Unblockable is pretty much the worst word that can be applied to any core...look at how much people use meteor shower, thorns assault, and jack-o-fire. And why 70%, why not 100%? Omega override strikes the opponent for 100% while debuffing 30% off the highest base stat.
Epic  Post #: 44
3/19/2013 1:30:31   
ansh0
Member

^It also has a useless core taking up the passive slot and it's a phase promo.
Epic  Post #: 45
3/19/2013 2:46:53   
arthropleura
Member

The buff is good in theory i guess. However using a turn to increase your support which doesnt gain you health or armour isnt really tat great when the results dont grant you anything solid.

P.s. this guy had 130+30 support and used this to gain 39, ending up with 199 support. I stunned him xD
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 46
3/19/2013 16:14:07   
AQWorldsFarmer
Member

quote:

Weak core? Seems like people have already gotten used to broken cores. Cores are NOT meant to give you a major advantage, they are supposed to aid you in battle


True, but using the skill core is actually waisting a turn, rather than aiding you.
Post #: 47
3/19/2013 16:16:12   
Ranloth
Banned


 So is Technician and Reflex Boost, yet players use them. Difference? Former requires training and costs EP to use, latter just depends on Support and costs nothing.
AQ Epic  Post #: 48
3/19/2013 16:20:56   
AQWorldsFarmer
Member

Technichion and reflex give more than + 10-15. I dont know many peopel that use technichion and feflex for damage, they use them mostly for defence. The support doesn't help defence but rather raises 2 attacks by 3-4 damage.
Post #: 49
3/19/2013 23:33:48   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 @ansh0: It has a useless passive core too? What is it?
Epic  Post #: 50
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