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3/18/2013 13:33:31   
Sir Caden
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That is JUST OP taking about 10 energy on lvl1 that is just unfair reduce it to 1
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3/18/2013 13:34:45   
Coolkid1999
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I say reduce it to 5 and it goes up 2 energy untill level 4 then 1 energy after that and i agree its way to op
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3/18/2013 13:41:34   
Mother1
Member

Ok this is more of a balance issue so it should be in the balance session of the site. But in case you don't remember before the buff it didn't increase with any stat, now it improves with strength so of course the energy drain would be more powerful then it was before. Also they changed the energy drain from 50% given back to 100% which wasn't even needed since mages already have reroute.


but for your idea for a nerf not supported.

While I can agree that this move needs a nerf, we don't want to nerf it into the ground to the point where it is even weaker then it was before.
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3/19/2013 2:31:51   
arthropleura
Member

Wow... that wasnt a good way to put it
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3/19/2013 11:15:58   
ambien
Member

wow why r u picking on tech mages again the weakes class now on omgea first they nerf plasma rain from tech to dex , we have no skill that gives extra amore like the other classes which cost no manna to use it. , reroute for mages is nice but cost at lot in tech stats skill points to get high enough to use right. mages half to pay manna for they reist skill technician and def matrix skill for use. and u say mages need a nerf on assamilation wow. granted super charge does give a certain amount of life back to caster.

the merc has a skill for amore which gives them up to +6 in def and +5 in reist always on cost no manna to use it and plus a life giving skill which they get life back and reduces target players rage by 50%.

the chs has a skill which gives them resit up to 10 which is always on no cost for manna to use it. they also have blood lust which give gives life back

the bh has a skill which gives up to 10% chance to block phys at max skill no cost of manna to use it.., and they have blood lust which gives them life back.

the tlm has reroute and blood sheild,plus a phy amore skill which is always on up to a +10, cost no manna to use it

note and u think assamiltation should be nerft wow

always the syfy
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3/19/2013 19:43:20   
shafaul12
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Not supported
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3/19/2013 20:39:51   
AQWorldsFarmer
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Ikr Ambien
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3/19/2013 20:59:28   
Ranloth
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"Nerf" of Dex and Tech builds wasn't really a nerf, I rather seen it as a nice buff back when I was a TM because I could use Bolt + SC combo, and SC gave back HP which was great with Tech abuse.

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we have no skill that gives extra amore like the other classes which cost no manna to use it.

Neither do any other class? SC (CHs) is a difference but they have EP drain of their own, so basically it's EP version of Frenzy. Only because you don't have such skill, it means that it isn't necessary. TMs already have good offence coming from skills. Weapons too if you know how to make a build.
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the merc has a skill for amore which gives them up to +6 in def and +5 in reist always on cost no manna to use it and plus a life giving skill which they get life back and reduces target players rage by 50%.

Passive Armor? Right. On rage, it's ignored completely, as if it wasn't there. You have Reroute instead, costs no EP to use and you can loop skills. They have skill that gives life back? So do you. Both Ultimates.. Rage by 50%? Sure. Yours ignores Resistance that SS does not. One is strategical, other is pure damage. Both return HP.
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the chs has a skill which gives them resit up to 10 which is always on no cost for manna to use it. they also have blood lust which give gives life back

It's called Passive Armor. Once again, it's ignored on Rage. You have Reroute which is just as good. They have passive Armor, you have passive EP regen. Both of you have a debuff. It's balanced just as fine. BL? Yeah, that's BHs. They have passive HP regen, you have passive EP regen. Both of you have a debuff. Everything is fine.
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the bh has a skill which gives up to 10% chance to block phys at max skill no cost of manna to use it.., and they have blood lust which gives them life back.

As above. And 10% chance to block a blockable attack. Right. Use unblockable and they won't have much use from SA. And btw, you have DA that always gives you bonus damage if you use the Gun. It gives fixed boost rather than relies on luck.
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the tlm has reroute and blood sheild,plus a phy amore skill which is always on up to a +10, cost no manna to use it

Passive Armor once again. Reroute too, you own it. And Blood Shield costs no EP to use? You forgot HP cost instead. No, Frenzy won't get HP back as easily because you can block it and it costs EP. Also it lasts 5 turns and is capped on Resistance given, so it's not all that effective.
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note and u think assamiltation should be nerft wow

What does ANY of the above have to do with Assimilation? You compared classes, that's all. If Assimilation ends up better than pre-buff then it's still a buff. Stop with the bias because it won't help. You are a TM hence why you say it shouldn't be nerfed. Think how it affects other classes. And you're giving Strength builds EP regen that drains enemy's EP, gives it ALL back to you and deals damage. With very high HP, max Reroute, high/max Heal and Bludgeon (and DA if you can do it well), you can create high damage build that can be dangerous by destroying classes that use Energy (not rely completely) and deal very high damage. With high HP, you can forgoe defence and max Heal will get it back.

And FYI, I'm not being biased myself only because I'm a BM and don't have EP regen. I was TM since Beta until late November of 2012, so it was for quite a while. I know how to use a TM, I knew how to use old Assimilation effectively and I know that the buff was overshot by far. Tech -> Dex change on skills was hardly a nerf, only made it a bit harder to abuse at the time but it was just as good. You forgot that BMs shared the same skills and had Tech for their skills as well, which wasn't working out as good. Dat bias.
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