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4/14/2013 4:31:11   
Lemonus
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A bit late to say but... that's a nice revamp of the Beginnah's guide Aur :) No rush but it needs the Beta Revo content replacing the old one

And maaaaan, I just had a very terribad dream about Grampy Time... he got his Retribution removed :o

< Message edited by Lemonus -- 4/14/2013 4:32:34 >
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4/14/2013 4:32:54   
Hakunin
Member

Ye, orc pillager situation.

I mean 1 OP per FIVE HOURS??? SERIOUS? For a quest-monster without a freakin' exact location even?
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4/14/2013 4:44:57   
Megadragonknight
Member

@Hakunin
Orcs and Ogres have both very low encounter rate but their possession rate is not low. Keep on trying till you find him.

Also, Lich's 3 hit-combo is just really unique. Summoning a Crypt Archer is really awesome. Speaking of Crypt Archer, he seems to be the only skeleton character to not be implemented as a character yet.
Post #: 653
4/14/2013 4:47:04   
TheSage
Member

@Hakunin : Seems kind of fair considering it is to unlock a free Legendary character that is not meant to be obtained easily.
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4/14/2013 4:57:08   
Hakunin
Member

@Megadragonknight
Ogres have the tendency showing up every 15-20 minutes (I mean ogre, ogre bandit and ogre shaman, but still not seen ogre maiden anywehere).

Orc Peon and Orc Warrior have common-appearance-location, while orc axeman/Thrak appears ca. 1 per hour. Orc rogue is questionable (me not payed attention as got it quite early).

But what other option do I have apart "keep trying"?


@TheSage
What're you talkin' 'bout? Orc Pillager is a lame apprentice. And Ogre Mage sucks. Noone wants Ogre Mage. Heck, maybe noone wants any of the for-gold characters (might be the reason noone complains for the low gold drop ratio).

Oh, ye: gaining 100,000 gold for Ogre Mage is already a ridiculously high demand.

< Message edited by Hakunin -- 4/14/2013 4:59:02 >
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4/14/2013 5:02:18   
Megadragonknight
Member

@Hakunin
Apart from "keep trying", then you must persevere if you want to get Orc Cheiftain and Ogre mage since they are very great free legendary characters especially Orc Chieftain.
Post #: 656
4/14/2013 5:08:29   
Hakunin
Member

@MDK
I just want to finish the quest.
100K gold is 1 month full salary of hardcore playing in OS, so I'll just keep collecting for good future stuff, not spend it on some average current thing.

Fire Witch Master is way better then Ogre Mage, and Orc Chieftain has wrong element for me w/o even looking at its stats. (from moral I'm into shadow/chaos and not light/neutral)
AQ  Post #: 657
4/14/2013 5:15:20   
Megadragonknight
Member

@Hakunin
Well, since you want to complete the quest but don't want Orc chieftain and Ogre mage because of the expensive price, I guess its better not to do it unless you want to hunt characters to kill time while waiting for new releases or being a hardcore player.
Post #: 658
4/14/2013 5:24:04   
Hakunin
Member

@MDK
Can't really do anything else now.
Mindless lvling up is useless, 1 character from 2 moral and 3 element is way enough. Not that I have them, but probably will, when there'll be nothing else then collecting gold hunting the chests.

The other characters I'm missing seems equally rare too ...If they are still in the game ... All the 25 (plus orc pilager) ... Or cost the same amount of gold as Ogre Mage (= 100K gold, all the remaining 5 including OM).
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4/14/2013 5:40:34   
Megadragonknight
Member

If you got enough SG, you can buy enough x-boost to gain more gold.
Post #: 660
4/14/2013 5:52:11   
  Grixus Faldor



 Got myself another 10 X-Boosts, Founder Champion here I come! :D

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4/14/2013 5:56:21   
Megadragonknight
Member

@James
Good for you and get him.
Post #: 662
4/14/2013 5:58:33   
Hakunin
Member

oh, come 'on!
10% gold boost is soooo not much when from an opponent you gain 7 per fight!

And again I didn't complain 'bout the prices in gold here (and just one of the reason for that is I don't care buying the characters in question).

I complained on the statement of "free legendary" characters and the ridiculous hardness of the quests!

Let's list what you have to do to build a legendary char from an apprentice:
- ca. 1 week hardcore playing (w/o X-boost)

Let's list what you have to do to gain the quest-reward legendaries (what you won't use anyway, the characters being way too weak compared to the current alternatives):
- collect 4 bodies for each quest
- 2 from the bodies appear at low frequency, thus assume 2 days if you know the locations to possess them (hope the wiki tells you and isn't outdated)
- 1 from the bodies must be evolved, thus assume 1 day playing
- 1 appears at uber-low frequency, what you only realise when you invested 20+ working hours into finding it.
- none of the characters appear at locations other characters can be found, so it is a hunt specifically for them
- none of the finds is guaranteed capture
- after all of this if you want reward, you have to play another whole month as hardcore player (3-6 hours play on a workday, 8-12 hours play on both weekend days) to be able to afford them.

You know, this seems a lot of demand for me, and far from "free legendary", or even something I shouldn't feel understandable frustration. Especially if these r just the introductory (= easy) quests.
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4/14/2013 6:02:04   
Megadragonknight
Member

@Hakunin
I can understand that. Overall, what do you want to do then? If I would like to help you out, I would at least suggest you to get Orc chieftain by doing the Orc quest though it will be very difficult to encounter Ogre shaman and Ogre maiden but I guarantee they have high possession rate as I caught them within 1/2 tries.
Post #: 664
4/14/2013 6:08:45   
Hakunin
Member

@MDK
Ogre shaman appears every 15-20 minutes at A5 on top of rock, with average possession-rate. Ogre Maiden is a mystery for me.
Orc Pillager at least I saw -> know the location. And that's the last orc I need for the quest.


To help me suggest me elements beside shadow/chaos plus fire. Should I take earth + water, or lightning +water? Ice is probably out of question...
AQ  Post #: 665
4/14/2013 6:11:02   
Leader
Unrequited


 The Fire Mage may not be as strong as other Fire characters, which is a bit strange considering it's Legendary, however it's understandable that he's no on par with Orc Chieftan. He is the leader of the Orcs, whereas Klunk is the leader of the Ogres and so will likely be respectively strong. It's still early in the Ogre vs Orcs quest line, and Ogre Mage may play an important role in the future. As of now, there's no reason that you must purchase him though.
Post #: 666
4/14/2013 6:16:33   
Hakunin
Member

O-oh. "Must purchase"? That sounds BADDD news. Spending 100K (=2 month for average player if playes every day) on an otherwise useless thing just for a questcompletion-purpose...
(imagine what the reward will cost in gold, and the completion in time!)
AQ  Post #: 667
4/14/2013 6:18:47   
TheSage
Member

There are easy ways to farm gold, the first of them is to use your highest level character. The second is farm/grind in a Treasure Chest room. A lot of the older players that still play from time to time have well over 100k gold.

It only took me about 1 weekend to farm up 30k gold while character hunting and level grinding for evolutions back before the xBoosts were around. This was with no character higher then level 9, and erratic play time, like 1 or 2 hours straight here, then another 3 hours straight there. There was also no Treasure Chest around to give 500+ gold per fight. Even without xBoosts it should not take that long to farm up 100k gold with a level 10-20 character fighting Treasure Chests.

Edit : the only reason the Ogre Mage is considered "weak" is due to it suffering from the "Alpha Curse" meaning it has a 20+ card deck, I'm sure with CD(Customized Decks) you will be able to remove most of the useless and weaker cards making him stronger. Besides, his 5-hit is still more epic then any other 5-hit in the game (use it with your sound on to see what i mean).

< Message edited by TheSage -- 4/14/2013 6:22:45 >
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4/14/2013 6:23:18   
Megadragonknight
Member

Yup, what Sage said. Its tedious to farm for gold and exp without x-boost. So with 20 lifetime x-boost, things will be a lot easier. For element, maybe earth + water since earth is offensive and defensive while water is healing capability. With those element combined, its almost as close to unbeatable.
Post #: 669
4/14/2013 6:28:19   
  Grixus Faldor



 @mega: Probably about time too >.> It's only been what? 4 months since the game was released for Beta testing? And even with 10 X-Boosts I was getting 1 level every 2 weeks. I honestly don't know where people find the motivation to level their characters once a day. I can't even manage 2 weeks, let alone 1 week @_@

Founder Knight is at level 12, atm. *sigh*
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4/14/2013 6:29:06   
Hakunin
Member

5 hit combo card is literally just burning your charges to oblivion being lazy.
I mean 15 cost at a 1 on 1 ratio? Even Water Fairy can know better!
AQ  Post #: 671
4/14/2013 6:30:27   
Megadragonknight
Member

@James
So now you have 20 lifetime x-boosts? That's nice! I guess we have enough free time to train.
Post #: 672
4/14/2013 6:38:31   
  Grixus Faldor



 @mega: Yep, 20 X-Boosts. It was a solid investment and will definitely help me get level 20 characters faster! :D
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4/14/2013 6:38:51   
TheSage
Member

@James Lu : Beta went live October 31st, the chance to get Founder ended at the beginning of January (don't recall the day). I been playing since the 2nd stress test and i still don't have a level 20 other then the masters i evolved into legendarys. Now my highest is a level 18 Founder Champion that JUST hit 18 last night lol 2nd highest is a level 15 Black Dragon then 13 Black Taurus, Orc Chieftain, and Ogre Mage.
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4/14/2013 6:40:20   
Lemonus
Member

@Hakunin
Gold - TC hunting
5 hits/Death Flow - Usually inefficient and impractical/Just there if you need to deal damage quick and have nothing else to use

Oh and also, leveling isn't THAT tedious as you think it is without 10-20 Xboosts, I got my something to almost 20 using 2 Xboosts and has reached 100k+... not that hard as you claim it is...
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