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5/30/2013 7:16:38   
ED Divine Darkness
Member

guys! they r not op. hav u never blocked a static smash or have your static smash blocked? this is why i prefer assim, because even if it is blocked u still get the full amount of energy back.
Mondez is right u fools who think it is op, in is NOT op just a move that makes merc a bit more balanced and useable.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 76
5/30/2013 15:09:15   
DunkThatOreo
Member

Oh my lord everyone just stop. This skill is not insanely op. It just needs to go down a few percentages and it's fine. You guys are acting as if this skill changed the entire game for the worse.
Lower the percentage and it's fine, that's all that needs to be said.
Epic  Post #: 77
5/30/2013 23:39:55   
NDB
Member

Pfft. When I started the thread, that was sorta what I was saying--it's OP as in it's better than it needs to be, not game-changing. I only overreacted in the beginning because it had been an hour or so after the update. But still. I stick by my opinion that Mercenaries are now one of the best class.

< Message edited by NDB -- 5/30/2013 23:40:03 >
Epic  Post #: 78
5/31/2013 0:12:58   
Blaze The Aion Ender
Member

NDB
I cannot agree
I think mercenary right now is at a perfect place
No too powerful, but not weak
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 79
5/31/2013 0:20:42   
NDB
Member

Notice how I said "one of". There is no such thing as just in between so I said that because I believe it is still on the better end of the spectrum.
Epic  Post #: 80
5/31/2013 0:30:38   
SouL Prisoner
Member

The reason why i told Merc is Oped and not specifically the SS(static smash) skill is because i have encountered few merc builds which works perfectly with static smash and that's gonna be some serious prob once people start copying that kind of builds, and that time you people are the one that's gonna whine in this forum...

Have fun :)

< Message edited by SOuL Prisnor -- 5/31/2013 0:32:15 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 81
5/31/2013 0:44:44   
NDB
Member

quote:

i have encountered few merc builds which works perfectly with static smash and that's gonna be some serious prob once people start copying that kind of builds

A hundred times this.
Epic  Post #: 82
5/31/2013 7:11:19   
The Incredible Hulk
Banned

 
quote:

Pfft. When I started the thread, that was sorta what I was saying--it's OP as in it's better than it needs to be, not game-changing. I only overreacted in the beginning because it had been an hour or so after the update. But still. I stick by my opinion that Mercenaries are now one of the best class.


It seems to me that you lose to EVERY Mercenary LOL

I bet you have one of those caster builds with Plasma bolt. Every time you want to plasma bolt, they want to static smash you giving you no energy. Then your completely useless since you can't plasma bolt and have a weak strength/support damage to kill them.

< Message edited by The Incredible Hulk -- 5/31/2013 7:14:50 >
Epic  Post #: 83
5/31/2013 10:29:19   
Ranloth
Banned


 The Smash is only strong against Energy builds, that's all. If you take BM, BH or a Merc without Smash as an example, you can get rid off your Energy asap and that'll render them useless. Works against Casters too since they rely on Reroute thus EP draining Core may come in very handy.

I've fought few Mercenaries, in Juggernaut for the time being, and I had it used against me. Blocked once or twice, few have landed and made it harder for me to use one of the skills but Generator got it all back so I was fine. After that, I've had 1-3 EP left so Smash was useless. You just kill them with your weapons and wait for rage (HA is ignored on rage).
AQ Epic  Post #: 84
5/31/2013 10:40:48   
Bloodpact
Member

^ i'm a BM and it's so easy to get around, as you said
I just drain all my own ep in 2 turns and Static is useless xD.


People just need to Learn to play
Epic  Post #: 85
5/31/2013 10:46:47   
Ranloth
Banned


 It's good to waste it on Heal. You're gonna get it drained anyway and since Smash deals no damage, you can easily Heal without risking taking in more damage and losing the fight. Or shield, use a skill, whatever. Getting rid off the Energy renders 'em useless. Those with Reroute will find it more difficult but they get the Energy back passively + if they block Smash, they can use their Energy to their advantage. CHs can just forgoe using SC during the battle to be on the safe side.
AQ Epic  Post #: 86
5/31/2013 11:14:12   
The Incredible Hulk
Banned

 

 I have changed class so many times....
I cannot be asked to change again, would change mercenary but can't waste varium
Epic  Post #: 87
5/31/2013 12:44:24   
Kiing of Frost
Member

You guys, is there really any reason to fight over this, as is mercenary is now one of the most well balanced classes in the game, so instead of screaming op or whatever you wish to scream play some and practice to get better, it makes a world of difference.
Stay Frosty
AQW Epic  Post #: 88
5/31/2013 12:58:05   
Melbourne
Member

quote:

You guys, is there really any reason to fight over this,


There is no "fighting" going on, it's simply clashing opinions.

quote:

instead of screaming op or whatever you wish to scream play some and practice to get better, it makes a world of difference.


You can't really practice, it's whoever has the better cores and the better side of luck.

Now I have no quarrel with you, good sir knight... (Please tell me someone got that reference) But what you are doing here is falsely accusing the majority of us at large that we lack the skills to be a seasoned player.
AQW Epic  Post #: 89
5/31/2013 14:34:07   
STRUT MY MUTT
Member

Nerf not supported. I think the skill is fine the way it.


Post #: 90
5/31/2013 14:43:10   
Kiing of Frost
Member

Nice Monty Python Lick, I am not a black knight, lol but my bold statements are not meant to offend but simply state the fact that nerfing this skill is simply not necessary.
Stay Frosty
AQW Epic  Post #: 91
5/31/2013 16:42:07   
SylvanElf
Member
 

 @ED Divine Darkness, "guys! they r not op. hav u never blocked a static smash or have your static smash blocked? "

In fact, I have yet to block a static smash out of I don't know how many encounters. The percentages need to be nearly halved, or perhaps change the scaling. Sure Assimilation deals 85% damage but in actuality it's usually a hit of 3 and might as well not even deal damage.
Post #: 92
5/31/2013 16:51:27   
Ranloth
Banned


 A hit of 3? Who are you facing - a Caster with 20 Strength...? With moderate Strength (16-20) and +35 damage weapon, you get 51-55 damage. 85% of it is 44-47. How are they hitting 3 damage on you? Don't assume Casters, we're assuming a normal build here. They are bound to deal 3 damage with that Strength even with 100% damage. >.>

It is blockable. I've blocked it at least twice now. And halved? Then you halve EMP as well. You'd end up making Atom + Static Smash even more useless compared to EMP. Not mentioning Maul requirements + blockable. Smash is still an EP draining skill like Atom. Assimilation's purpose is to provide on-demand Energy, not necessarily an EP drain.
AQ Epic  Post #: 93
5/31/2013 17:08:19   
The Incredible Hulk
Banned

 

 And tech mages have re route, so what's the big fuss. If tech mages didn't have no re route then yeah, I would've complained my self but the skill is absolute fine. You guys just want mercenaries to be weak again just like it was before the update!!!!!!!!!

Mercenaries have always been weak, It's time to make that class stand out against the others. I'm not changing merc till that class is fully fixed. I love merc but I can't change right now, it's still UP IMO.

I would love to have my hulk build back on merc with that berseker....... but 75% I think static smash is going to get nerfed ^_^.
Epic  Post #: 94
5/31/2013 17:11:47   
Mondez
Member

The skill seriously balances out Mercs for once and I hated using the Support build I had going on because it was difficult for my Focus Merc to get a hand on things.

Now my merc is owning against builds that rely too much on energy.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 95
5/31/2013 19:01:18   
SylvanElf
Member
 

 Are you guys seriously saying that the skill is fine as is? *headdesk*

@Trans
Right now the normal build for TMs with staffs IS super caster... I think it's a safe assumption at the present time.

< Message edited by SylvanElf -- 5/31/2013 19:04:55 >
Post #: 96
5/31/2013 19:11:54   
Ranloth
Banned


 There's a difference now. You're assuming Caster and 3 damage with 85% (and it'd be same with 100%). Damage gives rage. Rage is given to you and your opponent. The skill stacks with rage.

Static Smash does NOT give rage to anyone, does not deal damage, and it's blockable (where it drains 15%).
AQ Epic  Post #: 97
5/31/2013 19:16:54   
SylvanElf
Member
 

 Hmm... would I rather have minimal damage inflicted and moderate rage gain, or practically Double energy drain and gain with small chance of block?

But enough of this, I've stated my personal opinion and I'll leave it at that.

< Message edited by SylvanElf -- 5/31/2013 19:17:48 >
Post #: 98
5/31/2013 23:01:00   
Blaze The Aion Ender
Member

When I used Assimilaton, I was still doing decent enough damage...
I don't know who you're fighting...
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 99
5/31/2013 23:18:20   
CN2025
Member

its only slightly op i had a very good partner and 2 mercs with static smash owned us with repeated bunker
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 100
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