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11/6/2013 15:57:53   
Asuka
AQW Designer of All Things
quote:

i hope for when ever they make a new card pack for neutral that they include neutralize in it because it would open up a whole new level of battles.

Bad idea is bad in terms of balancing.

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11/6/2013 16:15:55   
  Grixus Faldor



 Please be civil, the posts in question have been deleted as they were off-topic and worded in a matter which was unacceptable.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 427
11/6/2013 16:16:38   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Legendary void will have shadowfire.
Post #: 428
11/6/2013 16:28:44   
Pennocki_
Member

how can you possibly know that........
AQW Epic  Post #: 429
11/6/2013 16:30:01   
Gorillo Titan
Member

All legendary characters besides the character design drakon get shadowfire when they hit legendary.
Post #: 430
11/6/2013 16:32:55   
Pennocki_
Member

nulgath might decide to make a new card to replace shadowfire , at the minute your just guessing
yet so am I so we just have to wait and see
AQW Epic  Post #: 431
11/6/2013 16:33:43   
The Jop
Member

Shadowfire isn't too useful anymore, it's just compressing two 500s into one card.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 432
11/6/2013 16:35:00   
Gorillo Titan
Member

For a shadow character its pretty useful since you don't have to worry about health loss.

In my opinion shadowfire is the legendary card for shadows like retribution.

< Message edited by Gorillo Titan -- 11/6/2013 16:36:29 >
Post #: 433
11/6/2013 16:37:54   
Axel459
The Void Calls


 I'm hoping for 3 MoD in VKs legendary deck I mean I like Poison but MoD is much better IMO.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 434
11/6/2013 16:40:04   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Vod should be dual elements give it a corruption
Post #: 435
11/6/2013 16:51:43   
the warden
Member

Axel459: I agree with that MOD is way better then poison.
still looking forward to seeing the evols
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 436
11/6/2013 16:54:25   
The Jop
Member

That depends on how long the battles are. If poison runs its 4-turn course, then it's better than MoD. Plus MoD can be easily blocked by iron hide, whereas poison can only be partly blocked.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 437
11/6/2013 16:58:24   
Cyber doom5
Member

i hope they make Void Knight LGND dual element

i want it to have neutralize so i can diversify what his attacks are
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11/6/2013 17:05:23   
Gorillo Titan
Member

I wish AE had an online newspaper that would give us info on what was coming as far as updates for the month or if we aren't getting one.
Post #: 439
11/6/2013 17:22:58   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

quote:


For a shadow character its pretty useful since you don't have to worry about health loss.


@Gorillo Titan: You don't have to worry about health loss with 500-Attacks either, and 500-Attacks can be boosted with Empower. That being said, it does have the benefit over two 500-Attacks of making room for an extra card in your hand, but its 125% energy efficiency is unimpressive considering Shadow character's other options, particularly Poison which is 200% efficiency (210% CC'd), Defend which is 167% efficiency (172% CC'd), and Mark of Death which is 150% efficiency (158% CC'd), so early on I'd rather discard cards like Shadowfire and 500-Attacks (unless I can Empower) to make way for more efficient cards. When the end is near and I'm confident enough not to worry about preserving an advantage then I'll happily smack away though.

quote:


In my opinion shadowfire is the legendary card for shadows like retribution.


It's true that ShadowFire is currently Legendary-only, but Retribution isn't as it comes with Pactonal Captain which is a Master and can also be CC'd when ShadowFire can't. Light characters' Legendary-only card is Greater Heal, which is significantly better than ShadowFire with its instant 200% efficiency. It's also of note that Retribution passes through counters and ShadowFire does not.

quote:


I'm hoping for 3 MoD in VKs legendary deck I mean I like Poison but MoD is much better IMO.


@Axel: It depends in part on whether there's time for Poison to run its course, but if there's time for it to then it does 50% more per energy than Mark of Death. That being the case, I prefer having as many Poisons as possible early so that I can get the full extent of the damage of as many of them as possible and then swing in for the finish with attack cards. I generally use Marks whenever I can get them, but I would rather open with Poison for sure. I do prefer Mark of Death to Poison at lower levels though since there's less time.

EDIT: Jop ninja'd me again

< Message edited by The Finnish Phoenix -- 11/6/2013 17:23:45 >
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11/6/2013 19:23:59   
Megadragonknight
Member

For me, I had great patient about nulgath helping out the omni project so it can help OS to gain popularity. SG package is definitely the key to increase the funds for OS. Beside, the fact we still have release and not to mention a very good release, I am pleased that there is no reason to complain. My hope for OS is that it will gain popularity than AQW even if its AE major game because I can tell OS potential to be a greater AE game than any other I ever play but I still do like other AE game.

MoD is a great DoT than poison in terms if its number of turn and damage. VK having 3 MoD would be a killer but it may be fun to use it.
Post #: 441
11/6/2013 19:36:23   
The Jop
Member

@Mega
Well, it's worse in terms of damage since it's 900 damage for 6 energy instead of 1200 damage. I don't really know if they need smaller SG packages, they already have a $5 one.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 11/6/2013 19:42:23 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 442
11/6/2013 19:55:26   
Gorillo Titan
Member

MOD is better to use vs light characters in my opinion. Since most of the time you have to hit light characters as hard as possible before they heal back to max health

< Message edited by Gorillo Titan -- 11/6/2013 20:00:26 >
Post #: 443
11/6/2013 20:10:00   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

You're of course entitled to your opinion and to go your own way, but Mark of Death doesn't hit any harder than Poison long-term, so it doesn't follow that Light characters would have an easier time recovering against Poisons than against Marks.

< Message edited by The Finnish Phoenix -- 11/6/2013 20:12:27 >
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11/6/2013 20:27:07   
Dragon Elite X
Member

Poisons are harder to recover from because it is contiguous damage.
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11/6/2013 20:29:37   
Gorillo Titan
Member

You only get the chance to draw a hand once in the time MOD kicks in for poison you enemy gets two hands and during those two hands can draw shields and a greater heal.
Post #: 446
11/6/2013 20:32:12   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 Don't diss the Shadowfire because it isn't anymore efficient than two 500 cards. 1 SF, 1 500 and 3 sacrifices is 3k damage in one turn with only 12 charge

Edit: Fixed my mistake

< Message edited by ND Mallet -- 11/6/2013 20:59:05 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 447
11/6/2013 20:53:43   
Megadragonknight
Member

Overall, none of the cards are useless. Its only when the player know how or use it at the correct timing. So poison have its own strength but it have weakness while MoD is the opposite of it. So, as I said, each of the cards have its own strength and weakness much as the characters does. They had great offense but weak defence although now the CC help to cover up their weakness but there is also another flaw in the CC, that is of course, the draw of the correct card. This is the cycle of the strength and weakness and that's why the game is balance.
Post #: 448
11/6/2013 20:54:56   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

ND Mallet: ShadowFire, 2 500s, and 2 Sacrifice costs 16 charge and 800 HP, not just 12 charge. While it is true that you would deal 3000 damage immediately, that doesn't mean you're getting more for your investments in energy (or HP in Sacrifice's case) then you would for using a string of Poisons early in the game.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 449
11/6/2013 20:58:37   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 Woops, meant 3 sacrifice. But still, 1200 hp is meaningless if you can pump out 3k in one turn.
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