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11/21/2013 11:41:13   
TheSage
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@legend knight : Your first problem is trying to fight defense WITH defense, Orc Chieftain is a defensive character, the other neutral characters you listed are offensive. If you want to win against a defensive light character you have to break their defense with offense. Hit them hard so they can't recover fully, also keep in mind while they are playing defense they are not doing anything offensive.
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11/21/2013 13:13:33   
DeathGuard
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While what Sage said is true, you can use defensive characters to kill Light characters like FC too. In the PvP Tournament OS had I fought several FC and won with my Barbarian, sometimes hesitating, sometimes finding my hands to approach their weakness with Shatters and other DoTs like Frost Bite.
Just try to find out a way to arrange your CC with your character's deck and exploit your foe's weakness,
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11/21/2013 13:24:41   
The Jop
Member

^
All my CC cards are attack cards because I'm unlucky and poor (No X-Boosts).
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11/21/2013 13:30:40   
DeathGuard
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I use an attack of 525, a snow orb, an empower and a neutral 525 attack card for Barbarian, you could substitute the 525 for the 515 ones if you don't have them.
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11/21/2013 13:32:13   
The Jop
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Well, I don't have snow orb, empower, or a 515 attack from CC. That's the life of someone who has to rely on the normal amount of gold and experience for battles.
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11/21/2013 13:35:07   
DeathGuard
Member

They should really higher the reward of gold for free players, it is too poor IMO. Most of by CC packs have been bought with pure gold .-.
Frost Lycan lvl 15. Hope I can get it to lvl 20 before Monday

< Message edited by DeathGuard -- 11/21/2013 13:37:54 >
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11/21/2013 13:44:21   
The Jop
Member

Iron Hide is still overpowered. It's a constant 1000 or 1100 defense throughout the fight. So broken. It would be so much fairer if it added 2000 defense for 1 turn, even if they want to lower the cost for that. Of course I'm saying this because I just fought a Taro that put up 1000-2200 defense worth of iron hide every turn but one. Maybe it wasn't so bad before CC, but now you can cast it every turn and it really needs a change.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 11/21/2013 13:47:54 >
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11/21/2013 13:46:48   
DeathGuard
Member

I think Ironhide is good for its effect, much balanced IMO.

In other topics, Bavaria hates me, everytime I killed her and try to possess, she evades me. Not even Augustiner was that hard possessing .-.
Should I really use a SG on her?
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11/21/2013 13:50:22   
The Jop
Member

I don't know what to say except I disagree, really. It's like putting up 2000 shields constantly except cheaper and you can put it up every turn. It also has no cap, unlike shields. It's because I was using a DoT heavy character, so I was hitting around 1000 damage per turn but that equaled 0 because there were always iron hides up.
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11/21/2013 13:56:15   
DeathGuard
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I made Beck wait 30 minutes to take 300 hp with only Ironhides when it wasn't nerfed, I haven't used too much neutral characters lately, but if it has a counter, it will be Corruption, Shatters, Poisons, though it will require constant spamming of these.
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11/21/2013 13:58:09   
The Jop
Member

@Death
That only works if you have CC because one or even three in the case of poisons will not do the trick (900 damage per turn will do nothing). Thus free players may not have access to that. I can't constantly spam DoTs because I only have the ones in the original deck.
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11/21/2013 14:02:13   
DeathGuard
Member

Poison Drake has 3 Poisons IIRC, and it is a free character, possessing it is a good idea if you don't have it yet since it is one of the strongest characters that deal DoTs.

< Message edited by DeathGuard -- 11/21/2013 14:03:44 >
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11/21/2013 14:02:41   
The Jop
Member

@Death
3 will not get through iron hide, like I said. So you will only be able to do a very low amount of damage after applying the DoTs because you will have used up most of your energy, and the opponent can easily put up another iron hide so they're blocking 2000-2200 damage per turn.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 11/21/2013 14:05:40 >
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11/21/2013 14:05:18   
DeathGuard
Member

Yeah, just editted since I was watching the page when you posted. Still it is possible to beat such characters with Iron Hides, they won't draw it every hand. Offensive characters also do the work, Frost Lycan is one.

< Message edited by DeathGuard -- 11/21/2013 14:06:29 >
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11/21/2013 14:07:47   
The Jop
Member

@Death
They will with CC though, and the opponent I faced did except for the last turn when he killed me. With a small deck like monk's you can easily draw it every turn. I draw 2 with him often (without CC), and I always keep one in my hand in case I need it. With CC he could have several at once.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 11/21/2013 14:08:28 >
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11/21/2013 14:10:41   
DeathGuard
Member

It can be counter, we can try dueling if you want, I will use only 3 CC cards which are empower, 525 attack and neutral 525 attack. I'm lvl 15 with Frost Lycan.
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11/21/2013 14:12:13   
The Jop
Member

Yeah, I guess. It'll have to be in about 3 hours though, since I have to go to class now.
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11/21/2013 14:14:34   
DeathGuard
Member

Alright, send me a pm when you're on.
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11/21/2013 16:52:33   
Beck
Member

Guys guys, we're doing the Earth tournament sooooooon~ Everyone ready to rock and roll? :D

Oh also, can't want for tomorrow! It's so nice to be back on a regular-ish release schedule.
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11/21/2013 17:11:17   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

Oh cool! Are we back to the weekly schedule? ^_^
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11/21/2013 17:47:05   
Jmagician
Member

According the OS homepage, it says we will be getting a Thanksgiving release. So it isn't something new which would make it super easy to implement given a weeks time.
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11/21/2013 19:42:51   
Megadragonknight
Member

Due to the CC, FC became more defensive than usual while adding some offense. Orc Chieftain main problem is the amount of default card he have. The chances of getting the correct card will be hard and even worst when CC despite adding more offense.

@Bei4
If you are around, please do forgive me for saying this but Odsey is going to be my final PvP opponent. I am going to have a heat battle with him.

Edit: I am not going to have anymore PvP duel with any other player ever again after Odsey for real. I am not going to break my promise again and never will. Honestly speaking, i feel that PvP duel is getting too boring. I am not sure how to explain why its boring but its my own opinion for PvP.

< Message edited by Megadragonknight -- 11/21/2013 19:48:33 >
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11/21/2013 19:52:35   
The Jop
Member

@Mega
What about when new features like elemental resistances are added, will you PvP again?
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11/21/2013 20:06:50   
Megadragonknight
Member

@Jop
Unfortunately, no. I also got important things to do for my life. Everything i do depend on my future. So, PvP will never be part of my game again after i win the overall duel against Odsey. I know this sound boring without PvP but it became too boring to me.
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11/21/2013 22:48:30   
The Jop
Member

First time I've listened to this video by Basicball. Ah, memories. I used to charge up to 32 so I was regenerating 7 energy per turn.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 11/21/2013 22:50:35 >
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