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2/26/2014 10:26:57   

@megakyle: I've already said how I like the story but I forgot to mention how I like the fact the knight becomes almost like the Archfiend himself, needing to feed on the souls of others. The twist gives more life to the story and raises the interesting concept of doing things for the greater good. The power to destroy Nulgath but at the price of killing others to sustain yourself while you try to attain that goal. It's a very interesting layer of complexity and I'm ashamed that I didn't see it fully before.

< Message edited by Trollok!!! -- 2/26/2014 10:27:20 >
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 76
2/26/2014 10:32:35   
The Jop

One thing I don't understand is that it says he wants to use the shield against the Archfiend who has just recently arrived to Oversoul's dimension, but it says the knight has been searching for ages.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 77
2/26/2014 10:36:09   

^Well we don't know how long Nulgath has been in the dimension. Just because the game started a year ago doesn't mean Nulgath has only been in for a year. Due to this uncertainty, I don't really see any continuity issues in megakyle's suggestion.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 78
2/26/2014 10:40:00   
The Jop

If it's been that long, has the Knight done anything towards his goal of slaying Nulgath? I mean, he is untouchable in battle, what more does he need? The longer he puts off attacking Nulgath, the longer he'll have to kill innocents for souls to sustain himself. I don't understand why he goes off to kill beings other than Nulgath right away, when his power of being untouchable is not going to change for the battle against Nulgath.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 79
2/26/2014 10:43:02   

^The rest is left as a cliffhanger I presume since not even our characters have done anything to stop Nulgath...yet.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 80
2/26/2014 10:44:19   
The Jop

But I don't see the point of sustaining yourself by killing innocent people when your power is not going to grow. He's equally capable of attacking Nulgath now as when he got the shield. Seems illogical or needlessly cruel. What, is he nervous?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 81
2/26/2014 10:46:22   

Nowhere does it say the souls of innocents have to be used. It just says souls. And he can't simply just attack the Archfiend when the guy is surrounded by legions of followers.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 82
2/26/2014 10:48:14   

The Jop: Simple. He only just got it.
DF  Post #: 83
2/26/2014 10:48:58   
The Jop

So is he going to attack Nulgath's minions? Because that's a pretty important plot point that you might want to add. Attacking anyone else is just putting off his goal. Plus he is untouchable in battle apparently, so I don't see why he can't just attack the Archfiend, whether or not he is surrounded by followers.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 2/26/2014 10:49:56 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 84
2/26/2014 10:50:15   

You're right The Jop. What's the knight gonna do against all those servants from the Abyss? Heh looks like I missed something else though I inadvertently stumbled into it. Also, the shield is "said" to make the user untouchable. I wouldn't want to rely on a legend to face arguably the most powerful being in my plane of existence...

< Message edited by Trollok!!! -- 2/26/2014 10:51:55 >
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 85
2/26/2014 10:51:44   
The Jop

I would count on legend for that, especially since he's eventually going to fade into nonexistence either way the battle against Nulgath goes. If he really thinks Nulgath is damaging his world, he should do something about it. None of the shields' abilities are going to change to help him in battle, so he should fight Nulgath as soon as possible.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 2/26/2014 10:53:20 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 86
2/26/2014 10:52:13   

The Jop: He's not literally untouchable. If he's good with it, then yeah, sure, but the Archfeind is a tricky guy, and there's not much just stopping him from, say, sucking up the mist and putting it in a bag Ghostbusters style
DF  Post #: 87
2/26/2014 10:52:28   

@Jop: Yeah but ensuring Nulgath is defeated would make it worth it. He doesn't want to die for nothing.

Edit: I like this probing around for plot-holes :D

< Message edited by Trollok!!! -- 2/26/2014 10:53:21 >
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 88
2/26/2014 10:54:04   
The Jop

So you're saying he has no chance against Nulgath anyway? What's the point of his existence then, another force for killing to sustain itself?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 89
2/26/2014 10:54:51   

He's not saying he's got no chance...he's just saying such an endeavor requires more intelligence. For everything to be worthwhile, he has to guarantee that the Archfiend can be stopped.

< Message edited by Trollok!!! -- 2/26/2014 10:55:19 >
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 90
2/26/2014 10:55:18   
The Jop

So what exactly does the shield do that makes it require more intelligence? And how is killing others to sustain himself going to help him with this intelligence?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 91
2/26/2014 10:56:47   

The shield doesn't make him require more intelligence, it's just beating Nulgath isn't as simple as storming in and hoping that his massive army of supporters won't be able to touch you while trying to claw your way to the target who happens to be the most powerful of that scary bunch.

And killing others to stay alive will give him time to formulate a plan that can actually work.

< Message edited by Trollok!!! -- 2/26/2014 10:57:57 >
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 92
2/26/2014 10:58:03   

The Jop: You misunderstand me. He has the power to kill Nulgath. That does not mean he will succeed to do so.

Besides, killing Nulgath sort of relies on finding and getting to him.

Anyway, you have a fair point on the Nulgath's Minions thing. Edited.

< Message edited by megakyle777 -- 2/26/2014 11:00:41 >
DF  Post #: 93
2/26/2014 11:02:01   

Yay this is what it's all about :). Helping each other to make iron-clad suggestions :D
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 94
2/26/2014 12:01:44   
Gorillo Titan

Wouldn't it be more logical for him to attack Nulgath early rather than later when his army has gotten bigger and its even harder to stop him?
Post #: 95
2/26/2014 13:16:57   

^Only fools rush in. It matters not if Nulgath amasses more followers, the knight would be hard-pressed to defeat Nulgath without an army of his own.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 96
2/26/2014 14:47:03   


Re-submitted. Meh. Need some feedback.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 97
2/26/2014 14:56:05   
The Jop

Just a heads-up, you have it listed as a Water/Energy character, but its deck is Fire/Neutral in its image.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 98
2/26/2014 15:22:03   

Fixed, thanks mate.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 99
2/26/2014 16:09:41   
Bionic Bear

I be needing some feedback on how terrible my entry is.
Somewhere along the bottom of page 3.
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