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6/2/2014 13:30:07   
ShadowMoon
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well now we found someone whose head it did go over, lol. anyway enough small talk, i found something interesting while playing battle gems. an obvious parody of drakath with the quest being called "14th chaos lord". i find it interesting cause in aqw drakath has been refereed to as chaos lord drakath, champion of chaos & avatar of chaos & was a dragon in dragon fable
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6/2/2014 13:32:48   
Jolan3000
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Someone expected that Sepulchure becomes the 13 Chaos Lord? We saw that Drakath can revive him.
Post #: 377
6/2/2014 14:07:22   
ShadowMoon
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no, we saw drakath could create a parallel world in which he had not seppy in. unless drakath drags a parallel world version of seppy into the lore the "hero"'s in, i doubt we'll see much of seppy anymore outside of flashbacks.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 378
6/2/2014 16:31:30   
Alchemist Gira
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quote:

????, the 13th Lord of Chaos

The Chaos Beast is about to hatch from its egg (rumored to be the Eternal Dragon of Time)
http://www.aq.com/gamedesignnotes/chaos-fan-art-contest-3948
taken from the recent DN soooooooooo Dragon of Time possible beast :o
DF MQ AQW  Post #: 379
6/2/2014 17:15:01   
Neilandio
Member

Another dragon? that stinks. I was hoping for another creature
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 380
6/2/2014 18:58:26   
Jolan3000
Member

But is the dragon of time isnt a simple dragon. When he died, the Hero and Drakath appeared.
With the dragon of time like the chaos beast I only can think that the 13 Chaos Lord is the Hero... But I suspect of our mirror counterpart.
Yeah I dont like another dragon like a chaos beast, I wanted a Chaos Phoenix.

< Message edited by Jolan3000 -- 6/2/2014 19:02:15 >
Post #: 381
6/2/2014 19:21:50   
Charon
Member

Maybe, our roles were actually reversed?
We are the mirror realm counterpart.
We do NOT belong the "real" lore.
AQW  Post #: 382
6/2/2014 19:32:51   
Omni Avatar
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@ShadowMoon

For the millionth time. AQW Zombies is an alternative story that DOES IN FACT EXPLAIN POWERS AND ABILITIES THAT CHARACTERS IN AQW ARE CAPABLE OF. It is NOT part of the 13 Lords of Chaos storyline but.

Also, Drakath IS CAPABLE of bringing Sepulchure back. He was seen doing this at the end of Doom Wood Part 2, WHICH IS PART OF THE NORMAL STORYLINE. There is even a continuation to Doom Wood Part 2 after Sepulchure is resurrected (more like a small battle and cutscene)

As for the Dragon of Time. The Dragon is gone. Yes, GONE. It was slain by Galanoth in order to undo the disaster that Sepulchure had done, which had a repercussion event, thus leading to the creation of the AQW storyline.
Post #: 383
6/2/2014 19:34:29   
Ryu
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That wouldn't make sense though. We had to find the egg in the Mirror Realm to balance everything so we wouldn't disappear. If it's the Eternal Dragon of Time it's going to be fun. :D
AQW  Post #: 384
6/2/2014 19:37:05   
Saoni
Member

The new chaos lords look very zombieish .

~Ulitra
AQW  Post #: 385
6/2/2014 21:02:33   
Omni Avatar
Member

What's inside the egg we looked for in the mirror realm is the Celestial Dragon. That dragon has a much greater significance than the Eternal Dragon of Time, who wasn't so eternal after all. The Time Dragon seemed to have let itself be killed almost as if it wanted the AQW storyline to exist. I'm saying this because no matter how strong Galanoth is, he can't stand up against a Dragon that controls Time and Space and was basically the creator of everything. Back to the Celestial Dragon. That Dragon is strange since all we know about it is that it is our counterpart in the mirror realm.
BIG NEWS EVERYONE!!!!

I just checked the AQW design notes and today they talked about Chaos, and the 13th Chaos Beast. In a section that talked about a new art contest it said this: The Chaos Beast is about to hatch from its egg (rumoured to be the Eternal Dragon of Time). This could mean that the 13th Chaos Beast is indeed the Eternal Dragon of Time that was slain by Galanoth. This also means that the 13th Lord of Chaos will be VERY powerful since his/her Chaos Beast is the creator of everything. This also means that the 13th Beast of Order that is supposed to hatch from Alastair Q's "13th Egg Pet" could be the Eternal Dragon of Time (there is no mirror form of the Eternal Dragon of Time since it created both our world and the Mirror realm)


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Mritha

< Message edited by Mritha -- 6/3/2014 19:55:02 >
Post #: 386
6/3/2014 18:45:22   
Alchemist Gira
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@Omni or Eternal Dragon of Space since ya know time and space go hand in hand
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6/3/2014 18:57:46   
Omni Avatar
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@Alchemist Gira

Also very possible.

The Infinite Dragon of Space
Post #: 388
6/3/2014 21:00:18   
Jolan3000
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But the Dragon of Time is a monster, right? So MoM created the dragon that created everything in the world? Well, that's confusing.
Post #: 389
6/3/2014 21:07:23   
Omni Avatar
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The Mother of Monsters only created monsters, not everything. The Eternal Time Dragon was responsible for creating everything, including the Mother of Monsters.
Post #: 390
6/3/2014 21:25:28   
Jolan3000
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So how can the chaos that was created by MoM, control the Dragon of Time that created everything including MoM?
Post #: 391
6/3/2014 21:38:58   
301st Legion
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There's no logical explanation to back that up. For all I know, I hope that the Eternal Time Dragon wouldn't be the last Chaos Beast. It would be utterly disappointing to see the Mother of Monsters have control over the one beast who manages time and space. And that would be too confusing. Considering that slaying the former Eternal Time Dragon brought upon the creation of Chaos and the Hero, wouldn't that mean that the holder of time and space is the ONLY one who has control over all the events and existence in Lore, including Chaos? Then it would only be logical if the Eternal Time Dragon isn't the last Chaos Beast. And compared to Kathool, for what reason would the Eternal Time Dragon be willing to serve as a mere Chaos Beast?
Post #: 392
6/3/2014 21:50:45   
Omni Avatar
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This can happen because the Eternal Time Dragon that will be chaorrupted is hatching from an egg. This is the Eternal Time Dragon's, that was killed by Galanoth, egg. Also, Dragonkin can be chaoruppted and controlled before they hatch, which will happen in this case because the 13th Chaos Lord is already in possession of the Eternal Time Dragon egg.
@301st Legion

The almighty Eternal Time Dragon could be the last Chaos Beast because, as I said right above this comment, ANY Dragonkin can be controlled before they hatch. So if the 13th Lord of Chaos took the egg from the original Eternal Time Dragon and raised the dragon that came out of it for evil (Chaos), the Dragon will follow his partner no matter what his ambitions are.

Maybe Galanoth has something to do with the 13th Lord of Chaos since he was the last one to be around the Eternal Time Dragon when it was alive. I'm not implying that he is the 13th Lord of Chaos but maybe he has something to do with it.

Also, when the 13th (final) Chaos Beast is slain, the Chaos Portal that Drakath has been guarding will open, and when that happens the Mother of Monsters will be set loose. When that happens, it might cause the Celestial Dragon egg to hatch which will declare the Hero nearing completion of the prophecy.

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Mritha

< Message edited by Mritha -- 6/4/2014 19:47:09 >
Post #: 393
6/4/2014 3:57:42   
megakyle777
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Huh, now that you mention it it COULD be Galanoth...

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6/5/2014 0:03:07   
Omni Avatar
Member

Yes, it could be Galanoth. However, Galanoth hates dragons. Because for this it wouldn't make sense for Galanoth to partner up with the most important dragon to ever exist. However we shouldn't eliminate the possibility completely.

DAYS UNTIL THE FINALLY CHAOS BATTLE BEGINS: 2
Post #: 395
6/5/2014 0:34:55   
Callender Parsley
Member

Guys, guys, there is only a small chance of the Eternal Dragon of Time coming out of the egg, and I would beg to argue that what comes out of it would not be the Dragon.

First, the Dragon hatching from the egg means that that particular Dragon of Time belongs in the Mirror Realm, and not on our world, thus causing ridiculous amounts of imbalance it wouldn't be funny.

Second, that would mean that we would be the Dragon in our realm, seeing as the egg came from the Mirror Realm.

Third, even under the effects of Chaorruption, the Dragon is a colorless, neutral force. The most likely thing it will do is go somewhere outside of the time axis and Chaorrupt every timeline, rather than being actively malevolent.

Fourth, the former reason would lead to an incredibly meta event, a la AE's 10th birthday anniversary, which, in my opinion, is totally unnecessary (though, given the current trends, is an alarmingly plausible possibility).

Lastly, why are we limiting ourselves to living creatures? For all we know, the egg could contain an item, say, a weapon, a location, an event, or even an idea. The possibilities are endless, and all of these are true unless proven wrong (i.e., the egg hatches).

Sorry for the jargon. I've been delving into a lot of Nasuverse lately.
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6/5/2014 1:03:32   
Uiluj
Member

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it's to my understanding that neither Drakath nor the Mother of all monsters control the chaos beasts. The Chaos Lords summon them, the chaos beast goes wild, and then we defeat them immediately. There are some cases where the chaos beasts have some kind of loyalty to the chaos lord or are under a spell, but they never directly serve Drakath. There are countless examples of chaos lords and chaos beasts that Drakath cannot control and defected even though they're still partly chaotic.

The question of which came first, MoM or Time Dragon is too confusing. I usually just give up trying to predict stories that involve time travel, and I just go with it.
AQW  Post #: 397
6/5/2014 2:43:39   
Callender Parsley
Member

@uiluj Yes, now that I think of it, it is a little confusing. But I believe that the concept of "time" predates the Mother. As the Mother gave birth to the monster races (including dragons), that was the time when the Dragon of Time was formed. At least, that's what I think.
AQW  Post #: 398
6/5/2014 8:04:30   
thulsa doom
Member

@^ I still say that MoM is not Literally the mother of monsters: it is merely a title given to her by the Darkblood who happen to worship her as a god. A king, for example, might use a title like "Ruler of the World" when in fact he only holds sway over a small population.
I'm not even sure that the Darkblood can be classified as "Monsters" since they have their own civilization.

Rumors in the DNs usually turn out to be fact. So Eternal Dragon of Time it is. Lucky for us, it'll be a baby. But, I don't see how we can allow it to be hatched chaorupted -- wouldn't that spread Chaos though the AEverse? So it seems to me that instead of fighting and destroying this particular baby dragon, we will have to save and preserve the egg.

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6/5/2014 10:22:03   
NoChaosNoCry
Member
 

 @^ From the design notes:
• ????, the 13th Lord of Chaos
The Chaos Beast is about to hatch from its egg (rumored to be the Eternal Dragon of Time)

The Chaos Beast must hatch from the egg(or maybe it is a trick that,in fact,it is not talking about the egg from mirror realm saga but another egg),but maybe not the Eternal Dragon of Time,
however I never believe that that is a dragon egg,we already got a dragon,it will be quite boring to have another dragon.

Let's see,most of the Chaos Beast got their own origins,
Hydra-Greek,Harpy-Roman,Roc-Middle East,O-Dokuro-Japan,
Dracowerepyre-Werewolf and vampire from England,Mana Golem-Jews,Sphinx-Egypt,
Naga Baas-Naga is a creature from India and Baas means "Boss" in Dutch,Manticore-Persia
Kathool Atchoo,Chaos Dragon(with one dragon head,one lion head and one eagle head),Pony Gary Yellow-unknown

Although some of their origins are unknown,but those we known never come from same place,
maybe we should check about legends of other places?
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