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6/25/2014 12:29:12   
Gorillo Titan
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Thats why I said with Soul wyvern who can easily do over 3000 damage in one turn and to go fast rather than waiting the longer you wait the more likely your going to lose vs a rev.
Post #: 351
6/25/2014 12:32:53   
Resk
Member

<- Just brute strength'd GT's 18 turkey with my 16 wyvern,

It's able to get enough heals, / shields using water, & enough damage from using mana gain card + HP

Don't be so critical without trying first :3

-Resk
AQW Epic  Post #: 352
6/25/2014 12:39:42   
The Jop
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Did he just use corruptions, shields, healing springs, and 500 attacks? If not, he's not playing it to its full potential.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 353
6/25/2014 12:40:28   
Resk
Member

Yes, he was using his tournament build

-Resk
AQW Epic  Post #: 354
6/25/2014 12:40:36   
Gorillo Titan
Member

I used the CC I was using in the tournament and she still won.
Post #: 355
6/25/2014 12:43:01   
The Jop
Member

You used renews, weaker attacks, and power flow in your tournament build, so it's not really its full potential. You should only use that stuff so you don't hit the energy cap or if it would finish off your opponent. That's the general rule for PvP; just use the more powerful and efficient cards while discarding the rest, unless you think you need them. That way you're always performing at your best and you have enough energy to pull off whatever you need to.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 6/25/2014 12:52:26 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 356
6/25/2014 12:59:19   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Using the smaller cards while still having at least 10 energy is my style doing a little bit of damage to keep the enemy from buidling up shields and I never use sacrfices cause it could easy turn bad for me.
Post #: 357
6/25/2014 14:23:02   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

Another reason to revert to Soul Wyvern. :P
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 358
6/26/2014 0:59:24   
DidYouKnowThat
Member

'Ey, looks like wanting Wyvern to be defensive as well, and tossing in more shields was a good idea then. :P
Along with 3 Sacs. . . . with heals it's pretty good. . . .

Was at first skeptical of MDK's idea of giving it 2 Powerflows, but all turned out well, since with Refresh, it can use Powerflow, once in a turn 2x in a row. o_o
Something I found impressive. Lel.

I still wonder though, what a deck like x5 Sacs with shields/heals for bulk, and Powerflow(s) would've been like though. . .
Different gameplay for sure. e.e

< Message edited by DidYouKnowThat -- 6/26/2014 1:00:25 >
Post #: 359
6/26/2014 1:38:50   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Duel 1 and 2 vs clinton

I won the 1st one
2nd one had a health glitch.
http://t.co/YoopLGqtEd

Sorry but going to sleep its 1:38 AM now.
Post #: 360
6/26/2014 1:48:53   
clintonian
Member

If the health did glitch then where's the pic? show me lol,so we can do that over if you want. The 2nd duel lasted about an hour or less. Fisher is really good against wyvern more so than aqueous

< Message edited by clintonian -- 6/26/2014 2:09:57 >

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Post #: 361
6/26/2014 8:59:32   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

Ugh tough break clinton.

quote:


Along with 3 Sacs. . . . with heals it's pretty good. . . .


Right, and Resk informed me in-game that if you were to go about calculating Sacrifice's energy efficiency it depends on whatever heals you have, so in this case if it were to have a mana cost it would be 2.5 or 200% efficiency, as efficient as Surge + 500 (800 for 4 energy) because Healing Spring is 160% efficient and Sacrifice turns every 400 HP it heals into 500 damage, which is 1.25*160%=200%. Another way of thinking of it is you pay 5 energy for Healing Spring to offset Sacrifice's HP cost so 2 Sacrifices + Healing Spring is 1000 damage for 5 energy. The trouble is if you can't get your heals going or if you can't convert enough Water energy through other means to prevent overloading which defeats the purpose of Sacrifice's 0 mana cost.

Sacrifice with Penance/Greater Heal would be a 250% efficient card, which is awesome. You can get this by CCing Penances on Rainbowtheus, although I don't think you can have Greater Heal and Sacrifice in the same deck yet.

All that said, Corruption is still Corruption and is 200% efficient off of free energy (doesn't take from your main element) from Neutralize with high-scale compression. It's essentially 2 Healing Springs + 4 Sacrifices in one card if it runs its course (although it does need Neutralize and a discard, it still saves you three cards of hand space.)

Soul Wyvern has 6000 native attack points in its deck and can CC attack cards, but Revonthurkey starts with 5300 HP and 2600 points of native defense/healing. Add 4 Healing Spring CC's (it needs a slot for Corruption) and that defense/healing becomes 6200. This could very well keep it alive long enough for Corruption to make a difference, but Gorillo doesn't have 4 Healing Springs and I haven't got a chance to test.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 362
6/27/2014 2:24:11   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Duel 3 or 2 if it counts as the redo for the health glitch.

Never use empower on human fisher -_-

https://twitter.com/Gorillo1/status/482408097701715968
Post #: 363
6/27/2014 8:29:32   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

Heh, clinton sure loves his Empower.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 364
6/27/2014 10:36:56   
Gorillo Titan
Member

I used empower >.> lol Never had a chance to use it discarded it every single time
Post #: 365
6/27/2014 11:17:55   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

Oh lol. Well yeah, between 2 Surges and Fresh Start you've already got Empower's niche covered imo but a win's a win.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 366
6/27/2014 11:25:01   
Gorillo Titan
Member

It lasted about 2 hours I got lucky with the powerflow x2 fresh start last draw.
Post #: 367
6/27/2014 12:42:49   
Skurge
The Dealer


 Between Gorillo Titan and clinton, are we seeing a 2-0 (respectively) at the moment? It's kind of difficult knowing who wins what with all these nasty health glitches.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 368
6/29/2014 0:23:34   
Gorillo Titan
Member

I'm off work now if you wanna duel Clinton.


@Clinton the 2nd match today froze.


Clinton and I are now 2 : 1 with me leading.

< Message edited by Gorillo Titan -- 6/30/2014 1:04:34 >
Post #: 369
6/30/2014 15:19:14   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

Ooh, clint's not out of the picture.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 370
7/1/2014 13:45:53   
Gorillo Titan
Member

I should be on at 11;20 Est time today and I'm off tomorrow should be able to finish the duels then.


Well waited all day on my only day off for clinton and he didn't log on

My dad's in town with my little brother so wont be on that much

< Message edited by Gorillo Titan -- 7/2/2014 22:01:04 >
Post #: 371
7/3/2014 14:03:39   
Skurge
The Dealer


 So.. How're we doing with Clinton/Gorillo Titan? It's been a while.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 372
7/3/2014 14:24:13   
Gorillo Titan
Member

I haven't seen Clinton since 6/30/2014
Post #: 373
7/3/2014 16:00:51   
The Finnish Phoenix
Member

His last forum login was today though, clint if you're reading this pls post we love you.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 374
7/3/2014 16:07:18   
Gorillo Titan
Member

I'm heading to work now hanging with dad and baby brother after work maybe can duel some time before work tomorrow.
Post #: 375
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