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8/27/2014 6:19:07   
Skylon
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@aleony
Volt can do 3k damage in one hit. Its pretty effective against Ice characters.
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8/27/2014 6:20:21   
Gorillo Titan
Member

@Axel I was sleepy. Earth = Tyrant Shadow = Poison drake

It depends really dwakel does low damage compared to volt who tends to draw a 5 hit at a more constant rate and gets off 3000 damage attacks without CC.

Some dot cards are good to hit the enemy on two fronts Weakening them while you build your hand to beat them.

< Message edited by Gorillo Titan -- 8/27/2014 6:23:20 >
Post #: 652
8/27/2014 6:30:15   
The Jop
Member

Dwakel's not really good against anything with counters or good defense. Then most of your strong attacks are wasted getting rid of their defense and you are at a disadvantage. It's like if you CC'd stronger attacks onto Peasant.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 653
8/27/2014 9:39:51   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Yall think if mithrial man would of won Nulgath would have drawn rank ups for dwakel or did him as a stand alone?
Post #: 654
8/27/2014 9:53:30   
The Jop
Member

Probably a standalone. Contest characters are never evolutions of already existing characters.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 655
8/27/2014 10:05:19   
Megadragonknight
Member

Yeah, a standalone character that's for certain. I also would like mithrial man to be release in OS. Maybe if there is another AQW character voting poll in OS, mithrial man shall be listed among top AQW character to be release as OS character.
Post #: 656
8/27/2014 10:53:45   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Its not really a contest character though.
Post #: 657
8/27/2014 10:54:38   
The Jop
Member

I mean anything that people vote for will most likely be put in the game separate to everything else.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 658
8/27/2014 10:58:25   
Gorillo Titan
Member

It was confirmed a contest winner can suggest a rank up for a character they already put in game though.
Post #: 659
8/27/2014 11:02:11   
The Jop
Member

Where?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 660
8/27/2014 11:03:48   
Gorillo Titan
Member

About the time Bioshock started working on Prime.
Post #: 661
8/27/2014 11:06:55   
The Jop
Member

That didn't answer my question...

Anyway, did Cysero say that HeroSmash is out of Beta? Because there's a guy named Beta in the main square standing in front of a marquee that says "Beta Beta Beta". I really hope it's not to late for Oversoul to avoid the same fate.

< Message edited by The Jop -- 8/27/2014 11:07:41 >
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8/27/2014 11:08:39   
Gorillo Titan
Member

one of the aks or testers said it in game I think Axel was there to confirm it was said though.

Cysero said Herosmash is in a very early beta phase OS is passed it pretty much.
Post #: 663
8/27/2014 11:10:13   
The Jop
Member

Eh, well, I'll just take it as gossip if there's no place I can see it from someone who would know.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 664
8/27/2014 11:19:36   
Gorillo Titan
Member

I asked one of the AK/Testers to confirm it.

Someone should suggest a giant nutcracker character with a five hit of an army of nutcrackers charging to the enemy with earth element.
Post #: 665
8/27/2014 12:08:20   
DarkLore
Member

I am so happy with my new soldiers for my army. Plus its my birthday tomorrow the 28th. Both mine and the RL me. I claimed my blood void body back in the first stress test! I also can't wait to see what suggested soul is picked Friday. If there is one.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 666
8/27/2014 13:11:48   
aleony
Member
 

Most of dwakel's damage comes from Tazer which is piercing where most of volt's damage comes from basic 4 hit attacks which aren't piercing so it's more likely that you will be wasting hits on counter attacks and shields as volt. Also dwakel is more open to CC. He can benefit from a variety of cards just as Tazer, Surge, Charged , Super Charge, or any more attack card however CC makes problems on volt. If you get DoT on volt then he won't it as hard, energize won't help enough as it wasted a turn to simply make use of it, if you add more Tazer then combined with the high mana of other cards then there is a likely chance he won't have enough energy to use all his cards, if you add surge or charged then there won't be enough attack cards to make solid 5-hit combos that hit hard, and if you add normal attacks then you won't have enough piercing to get through shield and counter attacks. The simply fact that dwakel's deck is so basic and consistent makes him a strong character and allows for more openness for CC.
Post #: 667
8/27/2014 13:15:35   
The Jop
Member

Most of Volt Engineer's damage comes from 5-hit combos and supercharged actually, which almost always do more damage than anything dwakel is capable of. And Volt Engineer is simply more efficient since it has more 500 attacks, which are the most energy efficient regular attacks. Tazer is almost never worth it since it only comes in handy when you're going past counters or shields to kill your opponent; otherwise it's just a 500 attack that wastes another energy point.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 668
8/27/2014 14:07:13   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Volt deck is good enough as is to not need CC which is a plus though adding CC isn't really a good thing IMO just makes your deck more random which isn't always a good thing.

But when it comes down to it people play characters differently and they have so many for people to not have to be the same.

Also its not like every character in game has counter anyway or if you want you could just go with timegent whose deck pretty much nukes deff and counters.
Post #: 669
8/27/2014 14:10:59   
ChaosRipjaw
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Volty only has 1 defense though O_O
and the supercharged + 3 500s = 20 energy
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 670
8/27/2014 14:12:53   
Gorillo Titan
Member

Ok? Volts a nuke character beat the enemy before they can build a deff. Everyone who dueled my blood void a few weaks ago knows the power of being able to attack fast.
Post #: 671
8/27/2014 14:18:44   
The Jop
Member

@ChasRipJaw
Yeah, but that's 3150 for 20 energy. Plus if you also get a neutral 515/525 that's 4165/4175.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 672
8/27/2014 15:59:27   
aleony
Member
 

I would still stay, at the very least against shield and counterattack characters, that dwakel is better.
Post #: 673
8/27/2014 16:11:36   
Vestrova
Member

is true, with the right set up, you can do alot of pierce damage cheaply, which makes it ideal for fighting frost npcs.
ie two charged two tazers and a surge.
thats (500+400)+(500 +300 +400) for a total of 2100 pierce damage for what, 14 mana? thats like 3 turns of charging.


< Message edited by Vestrova -- 8/27/2014 16:19:36 >
DF AQW  Post #: 674
8/27/2014 16:22:20   
The Jop
Member

Maybe it's good at low levels, but when you're well over level 10 doing 2100 damage is not going to kill the opponent most of the time, so then you're just paying more energy for equal damage.
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