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6/2/2019 12:14:26   
Watcher
From Beyond


It has been made clear to me, and repeatedly at that, that I have underestimated all of you. If you would pardon an understatement, I simply failed to give the people of Lore enough credit. I thought you entirely passive about the directions your world hurtles toward.

But even collectively, you are not quite resigned to that fate — or any fate, for that matter. You do take change into your own hands, albeit largely only in self-preservation.

I apologize for my conceit. Perhaps I should have come to you sooner, and it would absolutely be foolish to extend an olive branch any later than this.

You doubtless want to know who I am. I have been called the Watcher, and find that name to be good enough. Take no offense in my reticence, please. There is little I can do on Lore, and I am willing to go to great extremes to not make it about myself. The moment I did, my ego would be inseparable from my plans. My bias would be that much harder to notice.

What I do matters more than my identity for my plans, and so I am here to discuss just that. I do not ask that you trust me, only that you consider what I have to say before we go our different ways.

Choice is a burden worth carrying, but a burden nonetheless, especially when it often seems you have none. And most importantly, the burden is greatest and most imperative to carry when there is comfort in believing you have no choice.

I repeat these words deliberately: Change and choice. These are the crux of what I do. I seek agents of change, people with a particular untapped potential. Be they in the right place at an opportune time, or poised to cause great good or harm, I try to find those whose actions can collectively nudge the world in a direction that will preserve it from the ravages that await far beyond the horizon.

Some single individuals have the potential to tilt the world, whether by performing great deeds, turning away from fell ones, or in the case of those determined to do harm... Accomplishing some good in the process, even if indirectly or without notice.

Such is the value of an informed choice. I offer such agents the knowledge to follow through with their choice, without duplicity. I make my intent clear to all, and they are free to believe or reject me. I am not infallible, of course. I have chosen poorly before - Carnel, in particular, achieved his purpose but became an utter zealot for my ambition. His competence was a boon, his devotion a curse.

Just what is this ambition, then?

I offer you a vision. A new Lore, changed by your own hands and choices. Wilder, untamed. Where nature and power are so much more difficult, yet all the more rewarding, to tame. A world where less of the world’s own power rests on the shoulders of individuals who can prove (and have proven) corruptible.

That is the crux of the matter. Corruption is a survival tactic that produces large odds of success. It’s a predation tactic, and one with plentiful prey. There are consequences, of course. There always are. You know well how final the punishment has been before. But the corrupt do their best to delay them by generations, often caring not for what happens beyond their lifespan... Or ambitious enough to intend to combat said consequences.

I would see Lore not merely uproot corruption, as you have done before, but make it unsustainable as a survival tactic, and large scale exploitation easier to expose. Where Unity isn’t chosen out of fear, but because all know that working together is the optimal way to reach Lore’s brightest future, and protect the world from all who covet its infinite potential.

Consider this as you face the trials yet to come. For while you have united before, strife grows in the west while treachery has left a bitter taste across the west. You have held off the Devourer, shown him your worth and a future worth preserving. But have you guaranteed that there will never be a need for him to act again?
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6/2/2019 12:50:43   
Cray
Lorekeeper

 

You should not be here.
Post #: 2
6/2/2019 18:11:01   
AliceShiki
Member

Your choice offer is enticing, but ultimately unnecessary, the Land Of Rising Evil is very aptly named, and for a good reason.

You see to provide change, but change might tilt the thin balance that keeps this world in place.

I would rather trust in the powers I already know of and in the people I already know the flaws of, then in an unknown third party with unknown ambitions and motives behind their actions.
AQ  Post #: 3
6/2/2019 18:15:58   
Arlin
Member

Ok, seriously, what is this dude's deal? He calls himself "Watcher" but his rhetoric sounds like every other would be world conquer/destroyer. I'm not buying what he's selling.

< Message edited by Arlin -- 6/2/2019 18:20:03 >
AQ  Post #: 4
6/2/2019 18:23:12   
Xander_Raze
Member

Do not be so quick so dismiss an offer @AliceShiki, change has always been necessary for growth, for evolution.

The Powers you know can fall, and when they do, what will you be left with but the ruins of those whom you trusted?

Let's hear the Watcher out, this may verywell be worthwhile

< Message edited by Xander_Raze -- 6/2/2019 19:11:54 >
AQ  Post #: 5
6/2/2019 18:51:58   
Arlin
Member

The powers of the world may fall but that is no reason to give up your own convictions or sence of right and wrong. I don't know what Watcher is proposing but if it involves bringing harm to others, and I suspect it does, I for one will stand up and fight till my last breath. If on the other hand I am wrong in this assumption, I will be the first to apologize and offer a hand in friendship.
AQ  Post #: 6
6/2/2019 21:53:19   
Galactic Assassin X
Member

I know well the turmoil of the west. I also know that no one has offered me enough to send my blades there. What's your offer, Watcher?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 7
6/2/2019 23:12:06   
wozzen
Member

Keep your prying eyes to yourself, Uatu.
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 8
6/3/2019 0:03:51   
Willowofwish
Member

Who, if anything/anyone, is watching the Watcher?
Also no thank you, I as the character am very war thirsty, and corruptions breeds a ton of war. You taking out corruption all together is gonna ruin my fun.
So unless the path towards this so called "new Lore" or perhaps the aftermath of it unravels and involves the death and destruction of thousands in an all scale war, count me out.

Have a good day

< Message edited by Willowofwish -- 6/3/2019 0:06:51 >
AQ  Post #: 9
6/3/2019 0:39:39   
Watcher
From Beyond


Skepticism is understandable, healthy even, in this situation. I certainly owe you some reassurance after past confrontations.

To begin with, I have no aspirations of conquest. I hardly expect to live so long of a life that such would be fulfilling, and uniting under a tyrant's yoke is hardly a reliable method. I would be quite a hypocrite. And destruction? If I could act on such a scale and tried to intervene so directly, I would be disposed of. With prejudice. One need not be a deity to violate the boundaries set by a pantheon and suffer their wrath.

The greater powers have nothing to worry about from me, and I certainly hope I never have anything so direct to worry about from them.

Perhaps my aforementioned example was far from reassuring, as well. While I would betray their confidence by giving you their names, I can assure you that I have spoken with far more... agreeable, disciplined and often honorable Lorians. There are enough of you who have grown weary of courtly treachery and the tilted balance of the demipowers.
Post #: 10
6/3/2019 1:17:10   
Arlin
Member

Well, you certainly are cryptic, I'll give you that. I'm a little more blunt. What you seem to suggesting is some kind of power shift that will lead to your idealized version of Lore. Normally those sort of things come with a lot of innocent people getting hurt and I'm going to tell you right now, I'm not ok with that. Now if you really want to convince people to join you, you should just lay out you plan and let the chips fall where they may.
AQ  Post #: 11
6/3/2019 2:48:04   
Primate Murder
Member

You speak of providing information and knowledge, yet offer very little.

If I may be so blunt, how do you see the path to this new Lore? What are your concrete goals, the endpoint, and what do you wish to see done to reach it?
AQ  Post #: 12
6/3/2019 3:23:57   
Lord Markov
Member

More importantly, what do you seek in return for your proposed aid, supposing it is all in good faith and without its own hidden barb?
AQ  Post #: 13
6/3/2019 3:43:18   
neo_manni
Member

quote:

It has been made clear to me, and repeatedly at that, that I have underestimated all of you. If you would pardon an understatement, I simply failed to give the people of Lore enough credit. I thought you entirely passive about the directions your world hurtles toward.

All great creation has been misunderstood.

quote:

But even collectively, you are not quite resigned to that fate — or any fate, for that matter. You do take change into your own hands, albeit largely only in self-preservation.

Tell us your perspective.

quote:

I apologize for my conceit. Perhaps I should have come to you sooner, and it would absolutely be foolish to extend an olive branch any later than this.

Tell us more about your past transgressions if we only reflects on past faults can we evolve into our future selves and not live in the past or live a non living past.

_____________________________

AQ DF MQ  Post #: 14
6/3/2019 8:47:14   
AliceShiki
Member

I would much rather trust in my own lords over someone from outside, they have provided much for us, and aided us in the worst times of crisis.

It would be foolish to turn away from them just because we seek to avoid the worst they can do, when the best is far more rewarding.
AQ  Post #: 15
6/3/2019 12:08:06   
Watcher
From Beyond


I demand no allegiance, nor betrayal thereof.

The lesser powers wane, and succession is far from foolproof. The power to shape or end the world could end in the wrong hands. Higher deities are themselves the failsafe to prevent or halt such outliers, but they are much in the same trouble you are... If on a far grander scale.

From beyond time, even only from beyond yours, Lore has never seemed so fragmented. You may imagine time as a tree, or perhaps a river, and so understand that branching and convergence are not themselves concerning. But your past is now as uncertain as the future should be, and though the hands that combat the damage are clearly skilled, their work is far from done. The future is not merely uncertain but broken, changing in ways that choice alone cannot explain.

Even without detailing the more esoteric implications, or taking the risk of peering into what terrible fates are propagating to your futures, this has drawn the carrion to your world. The reckless, the greedy, and those who see their opportunity to seize Lore's future closing. I have seen the futures where they succeed. Lore is too important to allow them to come to pass. And so I would see the powers they hunger for be denied to mortal hands, becoming instead an untamed part of the world itself. There is danger, of course. But there always has been, and always will be.

I will reach out to more of you as the changing tides of time allow. I call upon warriors, magi, scholars and simple citizens alike. In the mean time, consider what whispers spread through the world, and the real scope of threats both present and encroaching.
Post #: 16
6/4/2019 12:44:54   
Pepp
Lives to Slay Dragons!


Honestly, as Dragonslayer always under the shadow of others to be considered Legends. Change should ( NO ) NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED..
Mark my words soon the Ancient Dragons Lords will awaken someday to reclaim their former Fame, Glory and Homes....



ABOVE ^^^ - in character

Below - ^^^ - out of character
Thanks i still play an lurk here on the forums - just a lot less here than i used too due to hectic life schedules and medical issues. But as always i am still amazed at both the staff and forum community here at Artix Entertainment.


< Message edited by Pepp -- 6/4/2019 21:18:10 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 17
6/4/2019 16:56:21   
Muchiha
Member

Old man Pepp, just a heads up. There's a Skill scroll called "DragonSlayer's Aura" in the "Warrior's Tower" location

It's able to give Greater Element seeking for your normal attacks and weapon based attacks against Dragons.

Click on Travel Map --> Sail East --> Sail South ---> Select "Warrior's Tower" and just quest for all the ingredients. Once you've done that click on Blackhawk, select "Shops", hit "Next" and it's gonna be right there. Costs 5940 Z-Tokens, so it's your call whether you want to get it or not



To the Watcher: In any given society, there will always be individuals that seek power, whether it comes in the form of material wealth, knowledge, political influence, manipulation and exploitation of the current system as they see fit, etc. The future or rather vision that is one with little to no "evil doers" results in severe control and extreme policing over the populace of Lore, every creature, every species in order to stifle and prevent any misfortunes and instances of corruption.

Your ideas also fail to mention one of the most essential, redeeming aspects of choice: the ability to learn from our mistakes.

With every action and choice we make in this world, (positive or negative and everything in between) comes with consequences. From those that wish for prosperity and progression as a collective to the select individuals that wish to disrupt and harm societal structure from a insignificant way to a very significant way.

For those who are power-hungry, corrupt, for anyone that has ever made mistakes in life - that lead to harm to themselves and/or others, there is always the possibility and choice for them to continue the actions and behaviors they are doing. However, another outcome that can result is for them to understand what their choices are and what they entail, which can lead to: learning to make informed, and improved decisions in the future if they did not know what making those choices meant before.



< Message edited by Muchiha -- 6/5/2019 0:22:15 >
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 18
6/4/2019 21:13:23   
Phlox Lover
Member

Change brings about chaos and disorder in times where there is not enough stability to warrant risking such a thing. It is not the time.
Post #: 19
6/5/2019 2:08:54   
neo_manni
Member

If I am here I will always fight for unity. If we have chaos order itself we WILL loose ourselves.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 20
6/6/2019 13:12:42   
The Wizard
Member

While this sounds great. I have learned that when something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I know of too may stories where someone makes a promise such as this and then turns out to be the villain to trust it at face value. Besides the road to hell is paved with good intentions (actually its paved with frozen door-to-door salesmen but you get the point).
AQ  Post #: 21
6/6/2019 16:07:14   
LigerBeard
Member

To be frank, you're leaving one important detail out of all of this;

What will become of us? What are we supposed to do if this big idea of yours works? Or more importantly, would our actions count as "corrupted"?
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 22
6/6/2019 22:46:00   
Willowofwish
Member

quote:

I would see Lore not merely uproot corruption, as you have done before, but make it unsustainable as a survival tactic


It seems then you intend to elimate Chaos from Lore(correct me if I'm wrong). If that is the case, I will always stand against you and fight for chaos and evil. No one should decide whether or not a person willingly chooses to become corrupted or evil, as the act along ultimately rest upon the person itself. Nor should evil and corruption be completely eliminated and uprooted, as you have then denied us the most important quality of being Loreians: the right to choose, for ourselves, whether we would become good or evil. I'd argue that throughout our history in LORE, it is BECAUSE of corruption, death, destruction, and evil that we are able to persevere this far: to unite and fight for a better future. Without the dark side, there will be no light, as this universe is adeptly named L.O.R.E(Land of Rising Evil), not L.O.E.L(Land of Eternal Light). That is but a dream, an ideal, that fuels us to fight for. The moment we realize this dream would be, ironically, the destruction of our land.

So I'll keep my warmongering ways, as I have actively chosen, and fight for those that wish to make a choice, not because
quote:

all know that working together is the optimal way to reach Lore’s brightest future,


But because without the darkness of Chaos there would be no bright future to strive for.
AQ  Post #: 23
6/7/2019 7:13:57   
Pepp
Lives to Slay Dragons!


Watcher tell me more.....

Not everyone has the stomach to control destiny for the Fate of others. I for one am highly intrigued. i have never been Evil or taken matters into my own hands
over others... But, this are troubling times and stronger individuals of L.O.R.E. may need a strong dose of Reality to realize much darker times are approaching than L.O.R.E has ever seen....

< Message edited by Pepp -- 6/7/2019 7:34:13 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 24
6/7/2019 9:22:21   
Watcher
From Beyond


I have been misrepresented - Or misinterpreted, I should not so easily ignore the benefit of the doubt - as wishing to remove choice. Far from it. Volition would not be stripped away any more than it would if you were to be the first to walk a road that somebody else wished to be the pioneering pilgrim of. My aim is not to erase corruption as a choice, but to make the exploitation of others an inherently less profitable method of survival, a tactic replicating poorly in comparison to Lore's history. Evil would remain, as would those with the will to find a way to resume their... Not yet, I am currently talking.

Pardon me. By making the world itself circulate the power of lesser divine aspects, and no single individual become a single point of failure, the probability of this magic being used for corrupt means would decrease without violating free will. Wilder magic, no less dangerous in driven hands, but not concentrated by-

...

I see.

Excuse me. I will answer your doubts in time - I do appreciate them. But an associate calls on me for a matter of life or death.
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