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Tehmages -> In-game "supervisors" (10/7/2015 14:56:25)

I haven't played for sometime epicduel for a reason, the game changed alot too much for me to handle it all once, and the community was terrible. I came back less than a week ago and I am getting pretty furious already, I've had enough with the community and decided to point it out here, and make this suggestion. Let me explain first the community over epicduel before I actually move to the suggestion.

Basiclly the community here is just so down, that if I would've kids I would never let them play epicduel. And what I've come across reporting doesn't really work, in every match I've played there's like somebody who says "f u noob" or just "noob" and so on. And when I point out not to call them noobs, they turn against you immediatly. This game is suppost to be PG-Rated game, and still there is these people who sends bad influence to kids.

So what is the suggestion?
The suggestion is "In-game supervisor", It's a rank given to specificially chosen people and they would have no other commands than muting a player, and probably answer some reports ( offensive language, spamming etc.) It would nice to have this rank so people would not keep insulting each other, and actually try to have fun. It is so frustrating that some people ruin other peoples great free-time.


Please post down your opinions about this.

Kindly regards,
Ultimate VIP



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/7/2015 15:29:20)

Community management is a big challenge for any MMO, including EpicDuel. It's one of the things we know we have to address but are not entirely certain how to. Personally I think any muting should be done based on collective reports I.e. if a player receives a certain amount of complaints, he is muted, rather than individual decisions to get a better idea of the offending player's overall behaviour and avoid any accusations of abuse of power.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/7/2015 18:56:42)

Important to keep in mind people who don't speak english as their primary language may not realize how rood "noob" sounds to others.

But aside from that yes the community is absolute filth and there needs to be a really good lockdown on players who just throw stuff out like that. My biggest problem I actually have is when people get bad rolls from the RNG and they don't crit/stun/block or I do it a lot in a battle and then they just say I'm hacking and report me.

It would be nice if I get a notification when someone gets banned because I reported him or gets banned because he reported me out of spite/misconduct



SonicTbear -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/7/2015 20:35:59)

Supported. This will cut down on the idiotic eight-year-olds. It might mean less players, but it'll mean more mature players and people in the game and community.



Tehmages -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/8/2015 9:55:00)

Many people do not actually use the report function, therefore this would be more than a great suggestion to push forward to ED team. As Sonic said, you may lose the immature 8 year old kids, but there's a high chance that you won't lose them as they are so called "Addicted to epicduel" players. This would more than force people to be mature and possibly bring some of the old players back which left due to these immature actions.



Greed Redemption -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/8/2015 13:42:07)

You could always use the mute all player option in settings, these days I do it unless I'm fighting a friend in battle or talking in a public area or my epicduel home. These days I just haven't felt like talking to anyone since I never see familiar face's anymore on here since all my friends left.
But I understand doing this is not a bad idea, and I support it anyway. The thing is I don't know if it's worth losing more players with the player base we have today, either i'm playing at the wrong time or I'm really only seeing 300-400 players online now a days it seems like it's getting lower every month, but back on topic I do support this 50%



Noobatron x3000 -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/9/2015 13:05:55)

You want to lower the playerbase by about 45%

Really?

Cant be done for that reason the state of depression in the game and mostly children being the only ones playing anymore is the main reason for all the hate.



Satafou -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/10/2015 3:15:34)

No thanks, the population is also too low for supervisors to be an actual thing tbh.



dfo99 -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/16/2015 7:12:03)

not supported



lightriftwalker122 -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/25/2015 17:35:50)

supported . Less rudeness



Cyber Dream -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (10/26/2015 15:22:34)

Supported, we should have a way to enforce the rules more. Latley I've been seeing ALOT of rude people sitting around central 0.



T.600 -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/6/2015 22:15:13)

As I mentioned previously, bringing back the ignore button would be a better solution. See my post on bane hallow's thread regarding fame to see my elaboration as to why it'd be a better solution.



The Parrow -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/7/2015 4:25:55)

You know, all this talk about flame on the internet during games.
You know who does a lot of the flaming/verbal abusing? The kids themselves. Yes..shocking isn't. The ones companies wish to censor games for are the ones who know the nastiest, most hurtful words in real life.

As for your idea. Supervisors? For what? 300 people max on one server? It sounds to me this community needs to grow a spine. It's the internet you expect butterflies and cupcakes? You think people in the real world deserved to be reported for their words too? If you're hurt by "F u noob" "noob". You shouldn't even be on the internet.



Exploding Penguin -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/7/2015 16:49:18)

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If you're hurt by "F u noob" "noob". You shouldn't even be on the internet.


The reason why kids are being so verbally abusive is because they learn all this garbage before they even understand the significance behind it.

So if it was censored on sites that are meant to be kid-friendly like AE games then it would probably stop the kids from saying it too.



Cyber Dream -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/8/2015 15:47:27)

I've talked a mod about this and im going to share with you what I was told. Due to request, I will not quote or state the mod's name.

My question to the mod was. " Will we see a new call for in-game moderators who actually sit/moderate/ and interact with the players and don't mind being ambushed by a large number of players?"

The answer I received went something like this. Every time a mod tries to sit and interact with players, including myself, we get verbally abused lol. Even in central, and I sat there earlier trying to interact."



That made me even more concerned, which led me to ask "Do you guys ever take any action to disciplne rule breakers? Most of the newer players seem to break the rules a lot"

The reply I got went something like this. " A lot of people break the rules, old players and new players. But mods are not present all the time. When we do receive reports, they are months old. Even years old sometimes. Players tend to report people only when the player upsets them, at the time they are reported, the proof of the player breaking rules are to outdated for us to take action. It doesn't work like that. The best way we can handle situations where players break the rules are for you guys to report it as soon as it happens."


Now with this being said, I changed my whole view on this idea. We don't need in-game supervisors, what we need is for players to actually start using the reporting system the correct way. Even if you don't see a mod, trust me, they are most likely present monitoring things. If we want rules to be "enforced" then we have to help enforce them by reporting people the right way.


-if anything I said, was incorrect, please feel free to inbox me and tell me what to correct(for the mod)



Exploding Penguin -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/8/2015 16:22:02)

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Most of the newer players seem to break the rules a lot"


I think it's more of the older players venting their hate actually. And disciplining them just adds more wood to the fire because now the haters have a "legitimate" reason to continue their flaming.



The Parrow -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/8/2015 23:28:55)

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The reason why kids are being so verbally abusive is because they learn all this garbage before they even understand the significance behind it.

So if it was censored on sites that are meant to be kid-friendly like AE games then it would probably stop the kids from saying it too.



And what about school? How're you going to censor that? Point is and always was. In truth these are just words. People give them too much weight and allow themselves to be offended.
No one should be offended when being called a noob. "Okay I'm not as good at this game as you are but I'm probably better at other things". Once you come on the internet, you should be able to listen to someone's opinion or listen to their taunt and not be offended by it.

Imagine that, being offended by texts on a screen by someone you'll never meet. You should realize by now a lot of the people who play these games are well into their teen years and some even older.



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/8/2015 23:51:54)

^

We aim to promote good behaviour so that players can better enjoy playing the game and interacting with the community. Flaming and trolling inhibits these goals and makes the game unpleasant to play. You're essentially suggesting that all efforts to promote better behaviour be abandoned because people should condone bad behaviour. This is akin to abandoning anti-bullying efforts in schools, or allowing chess players to continue playing in tournaments despite swearing at each other and flipping boards. Even soccer players and managers can be fined or even suspended for verbally abusing referees and other supporting staff.

In real life, we try our best to set exemplary behavioural norms and enforce them where possible so that disruptive and abusive people do not prevent things from functioning the way they should. Serious and repeated harassment - yes, even verbal harassment - can warrant severe punishment, such as losing one's job, demotion, being evicted from a venue, being banned from future events, prosecution under the law, lawsuits etc.

Let me make another analogy. One should not be surprised when he sees litter on the streets. But he should not condone littering, and should indeed criticise it. And governments should conduct anti-litter campaigns, enforce punishments against littering, and hire janitors to address the serious problems littering creates. Likewise for online abuse.

We will do our best to continue promoting good behaviour. I'm not sure how this suggestion is different from the current moderator system we use, but I encourage all players to report those who display abusive behaviour. Timely and consistent reporting is necessary for the mods to take action.



dfo99 -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/11/2015 1:17:09)

what the...

it is hard to believe that there is people who support that the players language have to be moderated.... then wonder why hardcore players like matt1000 switch ed for LoL after get a 3 days mute and the game is in decline.



Cyber Dream -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/11/2015 17:49:01)

@dfo99 You do know the game is aimed towards the younger players right? I'm pretty sure that some parents would not be happy about some of the stuff that is said to their kids while playing ED, considering the fact that most situations fall under the category of cyber bullying. This is why most games aimed towards the younger audience monitor chats and have in-game mods to monitor behavior.



dfo99 -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/12/2015 1:03:58)

nobody have to worry about those kind of parents because they usually not even allow their children use the internet, because their can talk with a pedophile in any social website or which it possible send a message, and the extreme high odd of the kids find a porn site.

the devs develop ed thinking about those kind of people (which never will play ed or any online game ironically, epic fail..), and it is one of many factors which is killing the game.



SonicTbear -> RE: In-game "supervisors" (11/12/2015 7:04:55)

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It sounds to me this community needs to grow a spine. It's the internet you expect butterflies and cupcakes?
Well, for me, I'm not offended by it. I'm just annoyed by how many people think they're what they call "The Schizznitts" because they get a lucky win or that they're doing better than you. In a sense, they act like they are God. The one true God. Or whatever other deity people choose to believe in that is all-powerful. "So, you're beating me. It's alright, but don't be an ass about it. You're not the most powerful person in the freaking multiverse, so don't act like you're God." This is what people like that need to learn. Especially kids who like to act nasty on the internet considering that's what the majority of the internet is.

TL;DR version: Not offended. Annoyed by people who act like they're an all-powerful deity like they never lost a single match of ANYTHING in their entire life just because they're beating you.



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